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I know many of you are using Twitter, and I know many more of you are using it. Well, you may or may not have heard of laconi.ca. Laconi.ca is an open source micro-blogging platform. For you non-technical people, it's basically a Twitter alternative, but different. Here is an episode of the FLOSS weekly podcast that contains an interview the the creator of Laconi.ca, so you can learn more about it.
The difference between Laconi.ca and Twitter is the same as the difference between AIM and Jabber. With Twitter or AIM there is one server that everyone connects to. All communications go through that server. With Jabber or Laconi.ca there are many different servers. Every group runs their own server, but you can still communicate between servers through federation.
Think about it like an office phone system. Imagine if we didn't have office phone systems. Every desk in every office would need its own phone number, and its own full connection to the phone company. That's crazy. Instead, offices have their own internal phone systems, so internal calls are handled internally. Then they just have a few lines that go to the outside world, so you can still call anybody in the world.
So even though identi.ca is the biggest laconi.ca server, there are many others, like the TWiT Army server and the http://laconica.frontrowcrew.com/ server. And even if people are on different servers, they can still follow each other. So the TwiT people are closer to each other, but they aren't walled off from the identi.ca people.
Yeah, you heard right. Everybody in the pool. Well, the beta pool. The server is up and working, but it's not 100% yet. I'm still trying to get the Jabber/XMPP support to work. I'm also definitely going to change the name of it. Let's all try to come up with a better name for it. The best we could come up with was knights.frontrowcrew.com. We can do better than that. So think of this server like the Death Star from Return of the Jedi. It's not complete, but it's fully operational. Just one more tool for us to build community.
Oh yeah, and because this is open source, I'm going to be modding it to all hell. An open source platform like this is going to add features very very quickly. Twitter, meanwhile, keeps having to disable features because they can't handle the load because of their busted architecture. Twitter is so done. -
Also, another note. If anyone wants to use OpenID, I highly recommend the Verisign Personal Identity Portal. I know Verisign is evil, but they've actually made a good thing here. It's free, and it even has a handy Firefox extension. I've had nothing but good experiences with it, and it seems to be as reliable and secure as an OpenID provider can possibly be.
Don't worry, though. OpenID is not a requirement to use Laconi.ca. It's just a supported feature. If you want, you can just make a normal username and password like any other website. -
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CommentAuthorJosh Bytes
- CommentTimeSep 6th 2008
If I sign up in the frontrowcrew laconica server can I use the same account for the Twit Army one? Or do I have to make a new account for each one? -
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Posted By: EbbIf I sign up in the frontrowcrew laconica server can I use the same account for the Twit Army one? Or do I have to make a new account for each one?
There's no reason to have an account on both. You have an account on whichever one you like more. If you pick frontrowcrew.com, you can still follow people on TWiT Army, and if you pick TWiT Army, you can follow people on frontrowcrew. That's the beauty of it. The same goes for identi.ca, or any other compatible microblogging service, of which there are sure to be many. -
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CommentAuthorJosh Bytes
- CommentTimeSep 6th 2008
I signed up on Front Row Crew. It feels exactly like twitter. It's pretty cool so far and was able to subscribe to Mr Laporte's blog. Only none of his posts are showing up on my end. I'm not sure what I did wrong. -
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Posted By: EbbI signed up on Front Row Crew. It feels exactly like twitter. It's pretty cool so far and was able to subscribe to Mr Laporte's blog. Only none of his posts are showing up on my end. I'm not sure what I did wrong.
It's working, he just hasn't made any posts in hours. -
I also signed up. I never got on the Twitter boat, but I decided I might as well try this one.
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I've kind of got the same problem with this service as I have with Jabber/ XMPP. Though I love the idea of Jabber/ XMPP none of my friends use it, so it's ultimately useless. Luckily transfers solved that problem for me.
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Posted By: makushimirianI've kind of got the same problem with this service as I have with Jabber/ XMPP. Though I love the idea of Jabber/ XMPP none of my friends use it, so it's ultimately useless. Luckily transfers solved that problem for me.
Way back around 2002, I had the same problem. Only one person I knew used Jabber. Everyone else used AIM. But I decided to use Jabber for that one person. Over time, Jabber eventually won. Now all the FRC is Jabber/GTalked up.
I expect the same thing to happen as laconi.ca will replace Twitter. At first most people won't switch because they don't see the difference. To them, it's just chatting. But eventually, because laconi.ca is open, people who do use it will build things on top of it. Slowly it will win. It will win more quickly if more people jump to it. Leo Laporte helped a lot by setting up a server, so I'll do the same. -
Never matter..
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Would it be possible to make it use your avatar from the forums?
downin.frontrowcrew.com?
Are you going to put up a link somewhere?Posted By: AprecheI know many of you are using Twitter, and I know many more of you are using it.
WTF? -
I'll give it a go, doesn't look too bad so far.
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Posted By: VhdbloodI also signed up. I never got on the Twitter boat, but I decided I might as well try this one.
It's actually not blocked at work. We'll see how long that lasts. -
How about
brevis.frontrowcrew.com to sound erudite,
hoi-polloi.frontrowcrew.com to sound even more so,
tldr.frontrowcrew.com to be ironic,
hottub.frontrowcrew.com to keep the pool analogy? -
Symposium?
Giantmecha?
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Posted By: tektonickHow about
I don't think any of these are surefire winners, but they're better than anything anyone has come up with so far.
brevis.frontrowcrew.comto sound erudite,
hoi-polloi.frontrowcrew.comto sound even more so,
tldr.frontrowcrew.comto be ironic,
hottub.frontrowcrew.comto keep the pool analogy? -
Kind of ironic, but how about: silentium.frontrowcrew.com
duco.frontrowcrew.com (as in the Latin word "I speak, I say")
sophia.frontrowcrew.com (as in the Ancient Greek word for "wisdom")
I could come up with many more Latin/ Ancient Greek "puns", since I'm just doing my homework for both courses. ^^ -
Since it's a community site, the name should speak to the entire community, just like how TWiT Army speaks to the TWiT community.
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So we should use an English word?
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CommentAuthorLuke Burrage
- CommentTimeSep 8th 2008
sufficetosay.frontrowcrew.com
yup.frontrowcrew.com
warmtoday.frontrowcrew.com
tonightwetalkabout.frontrowcrew.com
mrperiodsgonnakickyourassifyoudonttypeproperenglishtoandfromthisserver.frontrowcrew.com -
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Posted By: luke burragemrperiodsgonnakickyourassifyoudonttypeproperenglishtoandfromthisserver.frontrowcrew.com
WINNER!
Overall, I like all of luke's submissions.
Edit: butidigress.frontrowcew.com ^_~ -
Posted By: luke burragesufficetosay.frontrowcrew.com
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Posted By: Andrew
Definitely.Posted By: luke burragesufficetosay.frontrowcrew.com
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sufficetosay could actually work. You people know that if I change the URL, you will have to re-subscribe to people who are on other laconica servers, right? It is beta, still, so be prepared for shit to break and such. I promise it will be awesome in good time.
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I may switch from twitter when it's awesome. ^^
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Posted By: makushimirianI may switch from twitter when it's awesome. ^^
The more people who switch sooner and suffer, the sooner it becomes awesome. This is the underlying principle of open source. Even complaining helps. I don't use all the features, so the more people who complain about what parts are broken and what features need to be added, the better. Also, the more people who use something, the more the developer feels as if those people are depending on them to get it done. -
Posted By: luke burragesufficetosay.frontrowcrew.com
This one is awesome. Though I also like makushimirian's ideas.Posted By: luke burragemrperiodsgonnakickyourassifyoudonttypeproperenglishtoandfromthisserver.frontrowcrew.com
Would this even work? It looks to me like such a thing would be too long. Though awesome. :D -
Posted By: a forum asshole.
I think this is the first time anyone has ever agreed with me! ^^Posted By: luke burragesufficetosay.frontrowcrew.com
This one is awesome. Though I also like makushimirian's ideas. -
I'm feeling pretty strongly about the sufficetosay. If nobody comes up with anything better, we'll switch to that.
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The only reason I've started using twitter is, that I can "tweet" effortlessly. All I have to do is hit Super+Space and start to type. I barely ever even visit the actual Twitter website.
From what I can gather you can also add RSS feeds to Laconi.ca. Will this be possible in the future on the FRC server? -
Posted By: makushimirianFrom what I can gather you can also add RSS feeds to Laconi.ca. Will this be possible in the future on the FRC server?
Everything will be possible. Pretend it is zombo.com. -
Posted By: Apreche
Right..Posted By: makushimirianFrom what I can gather you can also add RSS feeds to Laconi.ca. Will this be possible in the future on the FRC server?
Everything will be possible. Pretend it is zombo.com.
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Posted By: makushimirianIs it possible to post to Laconi.ca with cUrl?
I don't see why not. I'll figure out the infos for you, but you can also check http://laconi.ca. -
I will support sufficetosay.frontrowcrew.com for the nth time.
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What's Twitter?
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Posted By: AprechePretend it is zombo.com.
Lulz. I actually visited zombo.com this weekend after I was feeling pretty blue about my projects. -
I'm actually a really big fan of warmtoday.frontrowcrew.com, but sufficetosay is also good.
Edit: I'm adding a few after a bit of thought.
getthehelloffmyinternets.frontrowcrew.com
banjen.frontrowcrew.com (Sorry, just saying)
youcantblanktenblank.frontrowcrew.com
I know they were t-shirt ideas, but I think they carry over well. -
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CommentAuthorThe Günter
- CommentTimeSep 8th 2008
I think sufficetosay is perfect, considering the nature of the site. -
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Yup, sufficetosay is probably as good as it's going to get, I think. That one just jumps out at me as simple, aesthetically pleasing, and very relevant to both FRC/GeekNights and the nature of the website.
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CommentAuthorJosh Bytes
- CommentTimeSep 8th 2008 edited
youknow.frontrowcrew.com wouldn't be a bad choice either. -
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Another vote for sufficetosay, and I also took your advice on the Verisign OpenID; so far so good. I think this is what it took for me to finally get a twitter-type account.
My question would now be how I can integrate this with my iPhone, if that's even possible. -
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CommentAuthorSemi-Random Omnutia
- CommentTimeSep 9th 2008
How about picking something from the "Rym's mind" thread? -
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CommentAuthorGreatTeacherMacRoss
- CommentTimeSep 9th 2008 edited
-snip- Mispost. -
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I like stuff.frontrowcrew.com
However youknow and sufficetosay are awesome choices. -
It's time for a poll. Scroll up.
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Posted By: AprecheIt's time for a poll. Scroll up.
sufficetosay.frontrowcrew.com
It's been decided. :D2313231009385% -
I've found that a lot of programs that could have brought me to use Laconi.ca more often are completely useless, since they only support identi.ca. What's the point of creating and supporting an open standard when you lock your programs down to only one site?
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Posted By: makushimirianI've found that a lot of programs that could have brought me to use Laconi.ca more often are completely useless, since they only support identi.ca. What's the point of creating and supporting an open standard when you lock your programs down to only one site?
Yeah, I don't understand this at all. A lot of people making this programs don't understand what's going on. Don't worry, I'll take care of everything in good time. -
Ok, laconica.frontrowcrew.com should stil work, but http://sufficetosay.frontrowcrew.com is the default.
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Does laconi.ca have sms support? This is half of what I use twitter for.