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GeekNights 070530 - Getting Into Anime

RymRym
edited May 2007 in Anime
Tonight on GeekNights, we continue "Getting Into It Week" with a look at anime. In the news, Anime Expo is having one hell of a musical act.
Scott's Thing - Poke-grind

Rym's Thing - Sean Connery SNL

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  • edited May 2007
    Good show guys. I watch all the shows, and love most of the shows you guys said, but I didn't care for Tokyo Godfathers that much. I also like Gundam Wing a lot more than Gundam Seed. Other anime shows that I love are Berserk, Outlaw Star, Tenchi Universe, Maison Ikkoku, and Kimagure Orange Road. I could go on and on.
    I also like SNL a lot. My favorite cast is the one from the earlier 90's. My favorite SNL skit is Mike Myers playing Dieter in Sprockets, a German talk show host . The part I love is at the end of the show when Dieter said Now is the time on Sprockets and when we dance and then other people start dancing with Dieter in this crazy German dance and at that point I can't stop laughing. I also like the first episode where Dieter is talking to an adult version of Eddie Monster. is my favorite esp. form Sprockets.
    Post edited by Rym on
  • Good show guys. I watch all the shows and love most of the show you guys said, but I didn't care for Tokyo Godfathers that much. I also like Gumdam Wing allot more than Gundam Seed. Other anime shows that I love are Berserk, Outlaw Star, Tenchi Universe, Maison Ikkoku, Kimagure Orange Road. I could go on and on.
    The show wasn't about anime we like, it was about anime to get started with. You have to admit that the shows you have listed here are not good shows for someone who is new to anime.
  • Well, I have not yet listened to this episode yet but I can say... blah blah blah... Naruto... blah blah blah... Dragonball-Z OMG WTF!!! blah blah blah...

    I find Miyazaki movies are good for getting people into anime. Anything with too much of a "Saturday morning cartoon" or "late night on Cinemax" feel is not good for getting people into anime.
  • Haha. The first anime movie I watched was Akira. I was nine. NOT a good anime movie to start with.
  • SNL's Jeopardy skits were legendary. I can't wait to see what Rym has to say about them when I listen to the show later.
  • Hello,

    Would it be possible to provide links to the Amazon, IMDB or Wikipedia page for the anime and directors discussed in this show?

    Thank you,
    Trenton
  • After episode 54b, I really think Daryl from AWO hates GeekNights.
  • After episode 54b, I really think Daryl from AWO hates GeekNights.
    Are you sure it's Daryl and not his other brother Daryl?
  • After episode 54b, I really think Daryl from AWO hates GeekNights.
    He was just being funny since he had to use all his Karate for the show, and it was hilarious :P
  • Hello, Would it be possible to provide links to the Amazon, IMDB or Wikipedia page for the anime and directors discussed in this show? Thank you, TrentonSatoshi Kon
    Hayao Miyazaki
    Cowboy Bebop
    Here are links to the Wikipedias. You can find links on the Wikipedia pages that take you to all the other information you want.
  • After episode 54b, I really think Daryl from AWO hates GeekNights.

    He was just being funny since he had to use all his Karate for the show, and it was hilarious :P

    I think Daryl was trying too hard and it was oh so evident... he really needs someone to play off from to make a decent podcast. Although OMG I can't wait till fall of 2008 for the Providence Anime Conference, I think this is a great idea!!!
  • After episode 54b, I really think Daryl from AWO hates GeekNights.
    He was just being funny since he had to use all his Karate for the show, and it was hilarious :P
    I think Daryl was trying too hard and it was oh so evident... he really needs someone to play off from to make a decent podcast. Although OMG I can't wait till fall of 2008 for theProvidence Anime Conference, I think this is a great idea!!!I wish the Providence Anime Conference all the best, and I might even attend, but I think that what they are doing is not an anime con. They seem to agree in that they are calling themselves a conference, and not a convention. If you go there, I'm betting you will find it will be a very different experience than cons we are used to. I predict the tone of the conference will be relatively mellow, and closer to what you find at science fiction conventions. You won't yell out Leeroy and receive a chorus of Jenkins. You'll probably be shushed if you yell out during showings. You won't show people the Mudkipes you liek in the hallway. The atmosphere will be completely different.
    Also, while the programming of the convention may not be dominated by porn, I guarantee you will find a high percentage of attendees, dealers, and artists will be involved in just that. The conference will not be strictly a porn-fest, but the presence of hentai, yaoi, etc. will definitely be far greater than what fans are currently used to.
    I do not think that people, like Daryl, who like the idea of a 21+ convention will disagree with my prediction. It's simply that the conference I have described is something that grumpy old school anime fans want, and is not what we want. I see no reason such a conference could not succeed as long as there are enough cranky old fans to support it.
    In the long term I see this conference failing no matter what. The only way it can save itself is to keep raising the minimum age of entry. If they do not do so, then the current Narutards will eventually make their way into the con as they come of age. The 30+ year olds looking to escape these people and their culture, will find that even their 21+ anime conference has been infiltrated.
    If you ask me, I say that these cranky geezers really need to just get with the times and get over themselves.
     
  • edited May 2007
    I also recalled them saying that you have factor on what the person likes. I got my little sister got into watching anime by having her watch Tenchi Universe and another anime I didn't post called Boys Over Flowers. The same goes for I friend of mine who doesn’t like anime at all and then I showed him Berserk and he love it.
    Post edited by N15PCA on
  • I progressed rather quickly:
    1) Spirited away
    2) Akira
    3) Tokyo revelation (Baaad hentai)
    Being much of the Scifi channel generation.
  • edited May 2007
    I really loved Sherlock Hound when I was little. I did not know it was anime at the time. My friend in high school really got me started with Bebop and Lain.
    Post edited by ladyobsolete on
  •  
    After episode 54b, I really think Daryl from AWO hates GeekNights.
    He was just being funny since he had to use all his Karate for the show, and it was hilarious :P
    I think Daryl was trying too hard and it was oh so evident... he really needs someone to play off from to make a decent podcast. Although OMG I can't wait till fall of 2008 for theProvidence Anime Conference, I think this is a great idea!!!I wish the Providence Anime Conference all the best, and I might even attend, but I think that what they are doing is not an anime con. They seem to agree in that they are calling themselves a conference, and not a convention. If you go there, I'm betting you will find it will be a very different experience than cons we are used to. I predict the tone of the conference will be relatively mellow, and closer to what you find at science fiction conventions. You won't yell out Leeroy and receive a chorus of Jenkins. You'll probably be shushed if you yell out during showings. You won't show people the Mudkipes you liek in the hallway. The atmosphere will be completely different.
    Also, while the programming of the convention may not be dominated by porn, I guarantee you will find a high percentage of attendees, dealers, and artists will be involved in just that. The conference will not be strictly a porn-fest, but the presence of hentai, yaoi, etc. will definitely be far greater than what fans are currently used to.
    I do not think that people, like Daryl, who like the idea of a 21+ convention will disagree with my prediction. It's simply that the conference I have described is something that grumpy old school anime fans want, and is not what we want. I see no reason such a conference could not succeed as long as there are enough cranky old fans to support it.
    In the long term I see this conference failing no matter what. The only way it can save itself is to keep raising the minimum age of entry. If they do not do so, then the current Narutards will eventually make their way into the con as they come of age. The 30+ year olds looking to escape these people and their culture, will find that even their 21+ anime conference has been infiltrated.
    If you ask me, I say that these cranky geezers really need to just get with the times and get over themselves.
     


    I am sorry Scott but I am 23 and I will be really looking forward to this convention. With less people screaming and glomping and less cosplayers with the drama, There is gonna be cosplayers but not in a competitive way, and I all for that, because that will filter all the attention whores and just leave the one ones that are good and are not just into cosplaying for cosplaying fame, if such a thing exist. I will be a long drive from Virginia but I think it will be worth it. also.
    I will use the theater analogy, I really enjoyed going to the theater back in my country, since it was rather expensive not many people with large families a little kids were able to watch a movie if it was rate Rand I had the whole theater for less than 10 people and watching awesome movies in a cool silence theater was great. Then I came here and it truly sucks, I can't watch what I want because the people suck in the theater, and it is not right. I did an effort this year because I wanted to watch Pan's Labyrinth and you know what It was great becasue no one was there, since it was in spanish and with subtittles. It was just like the old days.
    Today when I was coming from school I said to myself, "It is interesting, next week we get Otaku USA, which is gonna be an unbias Anime Magazine, and now I get the news that an Anime conference is gonna be held next year, I guess some people can make a difference, instead of following one specific formula a new vision is formed and who knows where it will lead".
    I think it is not gonna fail because anime can always be look with a mature point of way, everyone grows at some point but if they have pation for what they love they will keep looking for the next best thing. I love Do You Remember Love? the first time I watched back in 1997 and I was 14. I did not see it as old but I saw it as a master piece in animation. I am still looking for anime that can be compared to the good anime of yore, but it is hard to find. However, at the moment the only anime that are fuel for myself are the aold remakes form the 70's anime.
    Who knows maybe the conference is being held from the pockets of the Iluminati of anime that no one knows about and they will use an Iron fist of what will and will not be allowed in the conference in terms of adult material.
  • I'll be 21 by the time the Providence Anime Conference rolls around and will probably be going. I hope it's a mellow group of people my age that can I hang around and talk about how totally sweet cartoons are.
  • You see , that is what I am talking about.
  • While there are indeed people like you and Daryl Surat who imagine this event turning out int one particular way, I think you are very shortsighted. How many people like yourselves do you really think are out there? How many of them are within range of Rhode Island? Also, there seems to be this false assumption that it is only the under 21 year old people who are the type of anime fan you do not like. Let me tell you, I have seen plenty of 21+ glomping, screaming Naruto fans in my day.
    Also, the current screaming 16 year old fans right now will be 21 in five years. Do you think that somehow magically when they become 21 they will switch and become fans of Getter Robo and Legend of the Galactic Heroes? No. They will still be screaming, cosplaying Naruto and Bleach fans who won't watch anime that looks old. Their fandom isn't suddenly going to change just because they live longer.
    All my predictions about this conference are just that, predictions. Nothing will be known for sure until this shindig goes down. All I'm saying is that you people who think this is somehow going to be your anime paradise are making a lot of assumptions about how something like this will work,  what the people attending will be like, and how many like-minded people are out there.
  • edited June 2007
    I don't know if Providence Anime Conference is going to be good con or not. I just hope this con dose well though. The only I can say is that anime is a niche thing in this country and then you have a con where you breaking up that niche.
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  • I heard about PAC during the closing ceremonies of Anime Boston this year. I honestly, honestly don't know what to think about it. It's a decent idea, and having a con where i'm BELOW the median age might be fun, but it might just be ruined by the execution. It's a new idea, and new ideas take a while to sort out. If it degenerates into porn and booze, it's just not going to be worth going to.
  • I don't have anything against anime. I'm just not as involved in it as a lot of people. Back in school, I watched Project A-Ko, Dirty Pair, and Cutey Honey.
  • I found some things I liked after a few abortive attempts.

    In my pre-GeekNights life, I spent some time recording the anime that comes on late at night on Cartoon Network: it was Cowboy Bebop at the beginning. Oddly to me now, I didn't like it too much. Naruto: bleah. One Piece, meh. I killed the DVR timer after a while.

    Then Roger Ebert said that Princess Mononoke was awesome, and Gillian Anderson was one of the voices, so I watched it. I liked it, could see value in it, but remained untouched. I enjoyed some of the cartoons my kid watched (Xiaolin Showdown and Teen Titans) which I can see have a good deal of Japanese influence (I'm pretty ignorant on that: they appear to be USonian-produced shows, but maybe there are a lot of Japanese working on them), but could still take or leave them.

    Next try came when Netflix said I might like Trigun. I got disc 1, watched: No dice (again, funny to think of now). I pulled the remainder out of my queue.

    The breakthrough came one night when I was up late, drunk, during a not-too-fun-but-I-won't-bore-you-with-the-details part of my life. I surfed to CN for no reason, and caught an episode of Samurai Champloo. I cannot remember now (or maybe even then; I was pretty tipsy) which one it was, only that I LOVED THIS!

    The entire Champloo series went to the top of my Netflix, and I found I liked it even better sober! I ate it up. I will buy it one day. (Interstitial note: Do I need to buy the expensive set (something like 6 or so DVD's), or is the three disc set I see around sufficient? I'm not much of a "gotta have extra features" kind of guy.)

    The floodgates opened from then: I returned to Cowboy Bebop, determined to give it another chance. I watched the movie, then the series. The next red envelope in the mail meant the next CB disc with something cool and new. I remember the crushing disappointment when one of the discs arrived cracked and I had to wait a few more days to for my fix.

    Trigun next, and something had changed that I still don't understand completely: I was suddenly deeply emotionally invested in these guys! I think seeing Wolfwood introduced, and watching his interactions with Vash, drew me in. I'll go through Trigun again one day. I'll likely buy it. I too teared up, and I'm proud!

    I even checked out Initial D (based on the GN episode recommendation), and got addicted (to the first series, anyway). Thank Loki for the heads-up on the terrible dub. I garaged my tricked-out Mazda Miata in Gran Turismo 3, and bought a white AE86. I still don't have a cute teenybopper girlfriend yet (probably good, since I'm married).

    Since then, I have cast my net wide, trying many different things; some worked, some didn't. I've liked all the Lupin movies I've watched, especially Castle Cagliostro, which my first grader and I watched over and over and over. Gundam Seed didn't engage me as I had hoped, but I plan to try again one day. Maison Ikkoku's first disc was interesting, but I've not returned. I spent a morning one day watching Ranma 1/2 episodes on YouTube: cute. I've watched a few of the late-night Ghost in the Shell episodes that are on CN right now, and am interested enough to go through a chunk of it in Netflix. I just checked out Akira from the library here, and hope to get to it this weekend. I'll probably try Vision of Escaflowne some day.

    As my son is in the throes of Pokemon addiction, I have watched more Pokemon than I ever imagined possible. I think I've developed a crush on Soledad, who I choose to believe to be 18+. May is cute, but jailbait (and totally going to hook up with Drew). Of all the licensed character stuff for kids, Pokemon is on the short list of stuff I don't mind my kid watching/playing. Ash & co. model good attitudes, and playing the Pokemon games on his GBA is a big reason he has pushed himself so hard in learning to read.

    In a related area, I've tried many Manga, and not hit on anything yet (from Japan, anyway). I did like Ex Machina (another GN recommendation), I loved Art Spiegelman's Maus, and am eager to read Watchmen (it just arrived at the library, and I'm first on the list). I remember liking the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles comics when I was in junior high, as well as Groo.

    Rather than pushing this stuff on my son, I have had success just leaving the comics or DVD's laying on the low shelves, in his field of view. When he asks about them, we watch. Mostly, he enjoys them. Few things beat Sunday mornings, when Dad and son snuggle together on the couch at the crack of dawn, with Mom still asleep, to watch cartoons on the DVR and talk about what we'll make for breakfast. I'll miss that when he gets older...

    Cheers,

    Hank
  • I'm with you on the Pokemon. It is the one anime that I don't even think twice about letting kids watch.
  • The entire Champloo series went to the top of my Netflix, and I found I liked it even better sober! I ate it up. I will buy it one day. (Interstitial note: Do I need to buy the expensive set (something like 6 or so DVD's), or is the three disc set I see around sufficient? I'm not much of a "gotta have extra features" kind of guy.)
    The three disc set is a bootleg.
  • It's been too long, but my introduction to anime went something like this:

    1st: Either Gundam Wing or Pokemon (I started watching both roughly around the same time)
    3rd: Probably the original Gundam
    4th: Soul Hunter
    5th: Robotech
    6th: Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket
    7th: Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory

    A pretty bizzare progression, eh?
  • edited April 2008
    I want to show my friend Akira, but he's very unwilling since he watched the first episode of Gundam 00 big mistake.
    So, what can I say that can convince him to stop playing Halo and watch it.
    He's not an anime fan but is a semi-geeky guy. Well, I did get him started with Linux and he seems to have fun with it.
    Post edited by CHOIS CHOIS CHOIS on
  • I want to show my friend Akira, but he's very unwilling since he watched the first episode of Gundam 00 big mistake.
    So, what can I say that can convince him to stop playing Halo and watch it.
    He's not an anime fan but is a semi-geeky guy. Well, I did get him started with Linux and he seems to have fun with it.
    Tell him it has boobies and violence.
  • edited July 2008
    I want to show my friend Akira, but he's very unwilling since he watched the first episode of Gundam 00 big mistake.
    So, what can I say that can convince him to stop playing Halo and watch it.
    He's not an anime fan but is a semi-geeky guy. Well, I did get him started with Linux and he seems to have fun with it.
    Tell him it has boobies and violence.
    Okay, That will work. Two back the boobs are complimented with face that's all swollen and bleeding. I should be able to convince a lot easier now that his Xbox 360 was taken away by his parents for the most bullshit reasons.
    Post edited by CHOIS CHOIS CHOIS on
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