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New Health Care Bill

GreatTeacherMacRossGreatTeacherMacRoss
edited October 2009 in Everything Else
Pelosi just announced that the bill proposed to reform health care will not only include a public option, but will put an end to "pre-existing condition" discrimination. Additionally, it won't add to the national deficit, and cover an additional 36 million more people.

In other news: Joe Lieberman is a lying, whiny douche bag.

Link to story:Pelosi Story

I haven't found a link to the bill yet, but it's been online for 3 months apparently.
There's a link to the bill in the story.
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  • Kate MonsterKate Monster
    Has it been written? Is there a link?
  • HungryJoeHungryJoe
    Wasn't the public option supposedly dead?
  • George PatchesGeorge Patches
    Wasn't the public option supposedly dead?
    Only to Republicans. " I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
  • GreatTeacherMacRossGreatTeacherMacRoss
    Wasn't the public option supposedly dead?
    Only to Republicans. " I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
    This. The GOP/Faux News has been sounding the death-knell for a public option for over a month, obviously hoping that their "if we say it enough times, it'll just be true" strategy would take.
  • gomidoggomidog
    I still don't understand why they want the public option gone. Doesn't it benefit a lot of Republicans, too?
  • George PatchesGeorge Patches
    edited October 2009
    I still don't understand why they want the public option gone. Doesn't it benefit a lot of Republicans, too?
    You can't use logic to battle Fox News. You have to out fear-monger them. A tricky thing since they have an entire news format designed to do just that.

    All the Dems have are comedians that double as good journalists.
    Post edited by George Patches on
  • Kate MonsterKate Monster
    I still don't understand why they want the public option gone. Doesn't it benefit a lot of Republicans, too?
    You can't use logic to battle Fox News. You have to out fear-monger them. A tricky thing since they have an entire news format designed to do just that.

    All the Dems have are comedians that double as good journalists.
    Yeah, how dare we have common sense and a sense of humor.
    Fighting fear mongering with fear mongering only exacerbates the problem.
  • GreatTeacherMacRossGreatTeacherMacRoss
    edited October 2009
    I still don't understand why they want the public option gone. Doesn't it benefit a lot of Republicans, too?
    You're looking at the wrong people the GOP wants to benefit from insurance. See, while we want people to benefit from insurance, the GOP wants insurance companies to benefit from insurance. It's been going on since Nixon. It's also why the Republicans have started freaking out that members of the house want to revoke the insurance company's immunity to certain laws that would prevent them from price fixing.
    Post edited by GreatTeacherMacRoss on
  • RymRym
    IF YOU DON'T ALLOW THE PUBLIC OPTION, BABIES WILL DIE! GOD WOULD BE PISSED AT YOU! SWINE FLU WILL SPREAD!

    There we go.
  • GreatTeacherMacRossGreatTeacherMacRoss
    IF YOU DON'T ALLOW THE PUBLIC OPTION, BABIES WILL DIE! GOD WOULD BE PISSED AT YOU! SWINE FLU WILL SPREAD!

    There we go.
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  • George PatchesGeorge Patches
    Fighting fear mongering with fear mongering only exacerbates the problem.
    True, but it's the only thing the Republican base understands.
    IF YOU DON'T ALLOW THE PUBLIC OPTION, BABIES WILL DIE! GOD WOULD BE PISSED AT YOU! SWINE FLU WILL SPREAD!
    Rym bringing the heavy hitters with both babies and swine flu! Look out everyone!
  • NuriNuri
    Has it been written? Is there a link?
    The article he linked has a link to a pdf of the full version of the bill.
  • GreatTeacherMacRossGreatTeacherMacRoss
    Has it been written? Is there a link?
    The article he linked has a link to a pdf of the full version of the bill.
    In Kate's defense, I put the link up after she asked.
  • NuriNuri
    Has it been written? Is there a link?
    The article he linked has a link to a pdf of the full version of the bill.
    In Kate's defense, I put the link up after she asked.
    The edit helps make that clear. I didn't see a post answering her question, so I wanted to make sure. :)
  • RailithRailith
    That fucking bill is like 1990 pages of lawyer talk.

    So what's up with the 2013 deadline? Is this business going to be so messy that it's going to take that long or are they waiting until after an election year?
  • George PatchesGeorge Patches
    That fucking bill is like 1990 pages of lawyer talk.
    But it's REALLY BIG FONT. So the old men can read it I guess.
  • konistehradkonistehrad
    IF YOU DON'T ALLOW THE PUBLIC OPTION, BABIES WILL DIE! GOD WOULD BE PISSED AT YOU! SWINE FLU WILL SPREAD!
    Actually, cooking up these alarmist headlines is a lot of fun!
    • "A VOTE AGAINST THE PUBLIC OPTION IS A VOTE FOR SWINE FLU."
    • "END CORPORATE INFANTICIDE. VOTE YES FOR THE PUBLIC OPTION."
    • "CORPORATE FAT CATS WANT TO KILL GRANDMA. KEEP HER GOING WITH THE PUBLIC OPTION."
    • "WHEN YOU BUY INSURANCE FROM A PRIVATE FIRM YOU BUY FROM AL QAEDA."
    The best part is they don't even need to make sense!
  • TheWhaleSharkTheWhaleShark
    That fucking bill is like 1990 pages of lawyer talk.
    Well, they're lawmakers. The write in law talk. That's why we have lawyers. And Bob Loblaw's Law Blog.
  • ElJoe0ElJoe0
    edited October 2009
    Jesus likes you helping poor people! Please take note religious right, Ayn Rand and Regan would of really annoyed Jesus
    Post edited by ElJoe0 on
  • George PatchesGeorge Patches
    Jesus likes you helping poor people!
    They do love to gloss over that one.
  • HungryJoeHungryJoe
    Jesus likes you helping poor people!
    They do love to gloss over that one.
    Have you read about the conservative revision of the Bible that edits out all that embarassing "help others and try to be good" stuff?
  • WindUpBirdWindUpBird
    edited October 2009
    Have you read about the conservative revision of the Bible that edits out all that embarassing "help others and try to be good" stuff?
    You mean the socialist propaganda? Yeah. American Jesus doesn't stand for that pinko bull.
    Post edited by WindUpBird on
  • George PatchesGeorge Patches
    LOL
  • ElJoe0ElJoe0
    You meant the socialist propaganda? Yeah. American Jesus doesn't stand for that pinko bull.
    QFT
  • TheWhaleSharkTheWhaleShark
    Have you read about the conservative revision of the Bible that edits out all that embarassing "help others and try to be good" stuff?
    You mean the socialist propaganda? Yeah. American Jesus doesn't stand for that pinko bull.
    Of course Jesus is an American and a conservative! The Holy Spirit? Sounds a lot like "the invisible hand of the free market" to me.

    Deregulate! It's what Jesus would do.
  • WindUpBirdWindUpBird
    Jesus: The original Great White Hope of the GOP.
  • TheWhaleSharkTheWhaleShark
    I'm very happy for this new bill, but I won't hold my breath for it. I'm not celebrating until it's signed into law.

    But this is a good sign.

    Oh, and just for poops and snickers (thank you Nine for that phrase):
    The public option is dead. Trust me. And feel free to call me on it if proven untrue.
    You're not wrong yet, but it doesn't look good.
  • George PatchesGeorge Patches
    it doesn't look good.
    I know, the government trying to take care of us, the horror!
  • TheWhaleSharkTheWhaleShark
    it doesn't look good.
    I know, the government trying to take care of us, the horror!
    It's pretty much my worst nightmare. I mean, shit, next thing you know, they'll try to give us good schools. Fuck that. My kids don't need to know things.
  • HungryJoeHungryJoe
    it doesn't look good.
    I know, the government trying to take care of us, the horror!
    It's pretty much my worst nightmare. I mean, shit, next thing you know, they'll try to give us good schools. Fuck that. My kids don't need toknowthings.
    Gubmint out of our skools! Yee-Haw! *Dances around shooting six guns in the air*
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