So? No state-ISP. If you actually read that article you'll notice that other ISPs refuse to just oblige, because it's not law. Return when the Netherlands actually censors the internet, and not just one ISP, there's a very important difference.
I don't think people should be allowed to lie to a large audience.
Specifically, you can hate speech all you want, but they come down on people who say things that are actually incorrect.
Define a large audience. Should I be allowed to lie to the forum? How about a room full of people at a panel? Where do you draw the line? As icky as it makes me feel, banning something like Fox News feels ickier than not.
Let me rephrase that for you, it's the size of the network that allows them to lie unopposed (In given areas.). As it is the government's job to look out for those who cannot help themselves, safe-gaurds against outright false propaganda (I'm pretty sure you'll agree this is the case.).
Hang on a second, isn't the FCC a far worse version of this. The PCC is specifically for misinformation [Someone look that up.].
Edit: The Press Complaints Commission is specifically aimed at journalism and news. Edit 2: The PCC is an industry board. And is shutting down.
In addition, much as Mr Macross dislikes this fact. Texas and Arizona are part of the US.
What if we solved this problem with stricter anti-monopoly laws? We don't restrict speech, we restrict how much power any one company has. That seems less dangerous.
If you'll allow me to make sweeping generalizations, I've noticed that Americans, and American culture value Freedom of Speech above all, but any other freedoms are incidental, or only with measure.
To me, all other freedoms come before freedom of speech. Do you feel differently?
I feel that the Third Ammendment is the most important. Soldiers quartering towns led to high mortality and cannibalism in the 30 Years War, but I'm weird like that.
If you'll allow me to make sweeping generalizations, I've noticed that Americans, and American culture value Freedom of Speech above all, but any other freedoms are incidental, or only with measure.
To me, all other freedoms come before freedom of speech. Do you feel differently?
I only have problem with the thing that it seems that everything in America is a issue of free speech. Heck, probably even shitting on a boardwalk can be treated as a self expression an such it should allowed in the name of free speech.
For me freedom of speech should primarily mean the freedom to express your opinions without government censoring them.
To me, all other freedoms come before freedom of speech. Do you feel differently?
I think that either one is an oversimplifcation. In any case, the main reason free speech is so important is a pragmatic one, not an ideological one - the ability for people to speak freely is an invaluable innate defense against all other evils in society. Although there are many ways in which free speech could be restricted for overall benefit, giving anyone the power to do so could easily have much greater negative consequences if that power is misused.
Lying is still speech. The only lying that should be outlawed is false advertising, and the old fire in crowded theater example.
Actually I think you can get civilly, or possibly criminally, penalized for maliciously spreading false information. But the bad intent has to be there. That's why we have slander/libel as causes of action. There's also a much more lax standard for public figures since it's expected that people will sling shit about them.
Lying is still speech. The only lying that should be outlawed is false advertising, and the old fire in crowded theater example.
Actually I think you can get civilly, or possibly criminally, penalized for maliciously spreading false information. But the bad intent has to be there. That's why we have slander/libel as causes of action. There's also a much more lax standard for public figures since it's expected that people will sling shit about them.
Suggestion for name: Tappa Kegga Bru Stated Goal: To bring rational thought and meaningful discussion back to national policy, focusing on spirited debate backed up by facts.
I'm not editing this out just because the thread was Necromanced.
Well, I DID form it back then. The problem was that I would have had to quit my job to manage all the legal bullshit of making it a state party capable of fielding donations. That was the specific thing that made me give up.
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Specifically, you can hate speech all you want, but they come down on people who say things that are actually incorrect.
Hang on a second, isn't the FCC a far worse version of this. The PCC is specifically for misinformation [Someone look that up.].
Edit: The Press Complaints Commission is specifically aimed at journalism and news.
Edit 2: The PCC is an industry board. And is shutting down.
In addition, much as Mr Macross dislikes this fact. Texas and Arizona are part of the US.
Repeat correction: The PCC was an industry board. So we have no more government regulation.
I would like to add that I agree with you in an idealistic sense, but I disagree in a realistic sense.
To me, all other freedoms come before freedom of speech. Do you feel differently?
For me freedom of speech should primarily mean the freedom to express your opinions without government censoring them.
In any case, the main reason free speech is so important is a pragmatic one, not an ideological one - the ability for people to speak freely is an invaluable innate defense against all other evils in society.
Although there are many ways in which free speech could be restricted for overall benefit, giving anyone the power to do so could easily have much greater negative consequences if that power is misused.
Another thing to look at is how your rights are if you aren't male, white and 20-40.
https://sites.google.com/a/frontrowcrew.com/pragma-party/core-ideology
I was such a young idealist.
Stated Goal: To bring rational thought and meaningful discussion back to national policy, focusing on spirited debate backed up by facts.
I'm not editing this out just because the thread was Necromanced.