If you are not comfortable on a bike then one or more of the following is true:
1) You are sitting wrong 2) The seat is crappy 3) The bike is the wrong size for you 4) The seat height is wrong 5) It's a super fancy road bike and you aren't wearing the silly pants 6) You have been sitting on it for a very long ride and don't have the silly pants
This is the bike I bought to cycle around New York:
Really great value, and all the things that Scott thinks a bike should have. Comfortable? Nope! Got me around New York more quickly than using the metro? Always!
You must be unwilling to read what I write, or something. I find hub gears more comfortable than derailleur gears. Even if everything else about the bike was the same, the comfort levels of hub gears are greater, for me. I've ridden many of both types of bike. When buying my new bike I tested both types of the same bike. I chose the one I found more comfortable. The cost was slightly higher, admittedly, but it was worth it for the comfort. The weight was higher, very slightly, but the quicker gear changing of the hub gear bike provided more comfortable acceleration, even if slightly less efficient.
Go back and read what I wrote. Comfort isn't all about seats.
So what have we learned today, children? That Scott likes arguing with himself about things he doesn't understand about other people.
We've learned that even if you are aware of confirmation bias and the Mere-exposure effect, they will still make you their victim. Even smart people will put things like "feelings" and "preferences" ahead of facts.
Personally, I like to change my preference to match whatever is the most superior. It really helps when this kind of thing happens.
Just do what I did and get a used, 40 dollar rustbucket mountain bike that finds a new way to fall apart every 14 miles. It will teach you how to fix a bike, and on long trips you'll never be bored for worrying about all the scary squeaking and creaking it does.
If I had room for two bikes I would also get a bike so cheap I didn't care if it got stolen. It still wouldn't have hub gears or roller brakes.
If there were a Citibike rack near me, I would sign up for that instead. That's the only time you would catch me with hub gears or step throughs.
I wish citibike would have better bikes available. I'd pay twice as much if it meant I could get a quality bike. It should be the same way that rent-a-car companies let you pay more to get a Benz.
Well, roller brakes as the sole braking system are sometimes illegal in New York City (they can't stop in a straight line in short enough distance in many cases).
Commute is usually straight to work, which might be a while away. You can usually bring your bike in and store it in the building. Normal riding is like...
Everywhere but work?
that, maybe to the store where you lock it up outside. Or just leave it unlocked if it's truly a POS.
So what have we learned today, children? That Scott likes arguing with himself about things he doesn't understand about other people.
We've learned that even if you are aware of confirmation bias and the Mere-exposure effect, they will still make you their victim. Even smart people will put things like "feelings" and "preferences" ahead of facts.
Provide some facts and you might have a point. You've backed up your arguments with jack and shit. My position is that different bikes are better for different people and for different reasons, and I acknowledge that in your situation, your choice is probably correct. You're doing yourself no favors!
So what have we learned today, children? That Scott likes arguing with himself about things he doesn't understand about other people.
We've learned that even if you are aware of confirmation bias and the Mere-exposure effect, they will still make you their victim. Even smart people will put things like "feelings" and "preferences" ahead of facts.
You forgot the Engineer's fallacy. Or was that Folly, I can never remember.
Ahahaha, they Quote the Chopper skit from the Ronnie Johns Half hour. Good work, Lycra Clad danger junkies. But yeah, Serious Racers do tend to follow those sorts of rules, I've observed.
What exactly is the difference between normal riding and commute riding?
Personally, I'd say that if you're riding to a destination only, say work, or the store, etc, etc and the riding is just transport between point A and B, then that's commute riding. If you're riding for riding's sake, or riding somewhere for fun, then that's normal riding.
Alright lads, ease up. For all of the arse-backward way he went about it, he was trying to help. It's all over but the insurance paperwork now and we've all got our licks in, so let's leave it off.
I'm gonna buy that Vanmoof just to see the size of Scott's hateboner when it works just fine for City Riding in Chicago.
Glorious European City Bike Master Race
A tricycle would work "just fine." If you wanted to, you could commute in NYC by horse. Old shitty technologies can still get jobs done. They're just way less efficient than what we have available. What next, going to forego smartphones for an Apple Newton?
A tricycle would work "just fine." If you wanted to, you could commute in NYC by horse. Old shitty technologies can still get jobs done. They're just way less efficient than what we have available. What next, going to forego smartphones for an Apple Newton?
Okay, I spoke too soon.
Anyway, You tell us, you're the one using the old, shitty technology.
Could I have the numbers on "way less efficient"? I'm not kidding. I'd really like to see how much energy I'm using compared to a derailleur version of the same bike.
Could I have the numbers on "way less efficient"? I'm not kidding. I'd really like to see how much energy I'm using compared to a derailleur version of the same bike.
I actually found a paper on this! Let's read it together.
Comments
1) You are sitting wrong
2) The seat is crappy
3) The bike is the wrong size for you
4) The seat height is wrong
5) It's a super fancy road bike and you aren't wearing the silly pants
6) You have been sitting on it for a very long ride and don't have the silly pants
Can't think of any others right now.
Really great value, and all the things that Scott thinks a bike should have. Comfortable? Nope! Got me around New York more quickly than using the metro? Always!
Would I want this as my bike in Berlin? Never!
Go back and read what I wrote. Comfort isn't all about seats.
http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/
Personally, I like to change my preference to match whatever is the most superior. It really helps when this kind of thing happens.
Since I only have space for one bike, I signed up for Citibike.
If there were a Citibike rack near me, I would sign up for that instead. That's the only time you would catch me with hub gears or step throughs.
I wish citibike would have better bikes available. I'd pay twice as much if it meant I could get a quality bike. It should be the same way that rent-a-car companies let you pay more to get a Benz.
Normal biking is, say, going to the store or out to a bar.
Glorious European City Bike Master Race
Anyway, You tell us, you're the one using the old, shitty technology.
http://ihpva.org/HParchive/PDF/hp52-2001.pdf
"The mechanical efficiency of bicycle derailleur and hub-gear transmissions" Chester Kyle and Frank Berto - page 3