VLC, XBMC/Boxee, and MPlayer can all play every single video file imaginable. Pick one. I have yet to meet a video file that will not play perfectly every single time.
Bullshit uninformed statement from someone who appears to know next to nothing about the software in question yet keeps talking from a position of authority with his anecdotal evidence.
You may argue whether or not CCCP is trustworthy/untrustworthy. I personally don't trust something so shady. Even if it is not shady at all, at bare minimum it has committed the crime of having a million useless checkboxes. Even if it does work, why bother with some hacky, ghetto, unpolished software, when there are high quality slick, professional, free, non-ghetto alternatives?
Look at the US-born bias on this guy. The pack only looks shady if you have averse reactions to the colour red accompanied by yellow symbols, or acronym jokes.
Tell me, what is wrong with an actually maintained pre-configured package that offers you the freedom, if you so desire, to change many useful options in one place from a friendly GUI interface (if you know what you're doing). It's not like MPlayer doesn't have a lot of boolean options that can be set hidden away from users in large help files and verbose option lists, right...
When was the last time MPlayer put out an actual release instead of doing nothing but jacking off in their trunk? Instead users have to find their binaries from third parties. Can you still download Boxee for Windows? VLC might have stepped over to FFMpeg, instead of their own codecs, but doesn't their subtitle renderer still suck? Does their seek functionality not still produce filth worse than the crap you poop on a daily basis? And VLC's GUI still looks like crap if you ask me. There is absolutely no reason for your unwarranted bullshit opinion on CCCP.
Have you ever been, unofficially, endorsed by a Google Inc. subsidiary that produces video software that's now about as ubiquitous as Adobe's Flash player?
Find an example of a video that won't play in Mplayer and VLC, but will play in CCCP, and you can win the argument over it.
The broken Catch-22 situation a while back when CCCP was pretty much the only piece of software capable of properly playing back Hi10P encoded H.264 video. I remember the pretty rainbows in MPlayer during that time.
VLC, XBMC/Boxee, and MPlayer can all play every single video file imaginable. Pick one. I have yet to meet a video file that will not play perfectly every single time.
Bullshit uninformed statement from someone who appears to know next to nothing about the software in question yet keeps talking from a position of authority with his anecdotal evidence.
You may argue whether or not CCCP is trustworthy/untrustworthy. I personally don't trust something so shady. Even if it is not shady at all, at bare minimum it has committed the crime of having a million useless checkboxes. Even if it does work, why bother with some hacky, ghetto, unpolished software, when there are high quality slick, professional, free, non-ghetto alternatives?
Look at the US-born bias on this guy. The pack only looks shady if you have averse reactions to the colour red accompanied by yellow symbols, or acronym jokes.
Tell me, what is wrong with an actually maintained pre-configured package that offers you the freedom, if you so desire, to change many useful options in one place from a friendly GUI interface (if you know what you're doing). It's not like MPlayer doesn't have a lot of boolean options that can be set hidden away from users in large help files and verbose option lists, right...
When was the last time MPlayer put out an actual release instead of doing nothing but jacking off in their trunk? Instead users have to find their binaries from third parties. Can you still download Boxee for Windows? VLC might have stepped over to FFMpeg, instead of their own codecs, but doesn't their subtitle renderer still suck? Does their seek functionality not still produce filth worse than the crap you poop on a daily basis? And VLC's GUI still looks like crap if you ask me. There is absolutely no reason for your unwarranted bullshit opinion on CCCP.
Have you ever been, unofficially, endorsed by a Google Inc. subsidiary that produces video software that's now about as ubiquitous as Adobe's Flash player?
Find an example of a video that won't play in Mplayer and VLC, but will play in CCCP, and you can win the argument over it.
The broken Catch-22 situation a while back when CCCP was pretty much the only piece of software capable of properly playing back Hi10P encoded H.264 video. I remember the pretty rainbows in MPlayer during that time.
Name a specific option that you need to change, and then argue successfully that it is a necessary option. Also, I do not know if it is true that an "Hi10P encoded H.264" video failed with anything other than CCCP because I have never encountered such a video.
I have never used CCCP. I have never encountered a single video that did not play perfectly. I have never needed an option or feature I did not have. I watch fuck-tons of digitally downloaded videos from a wide variety of sources.
You aren't going to be able to win this without naming a specific feature or pointing us towards a specific video.
VLC 2 is way better in pretty much every way, including the UI. You're doing yourself a disservice if you have yet to upgrade.
I don't even know why you need the UI. These are the only features I ever use in a video player 99.999% of the time:
1) double click on the file in explorer to play the video 2) quit the video player 3) play/pause with spacebar 4) full-screen with appropriate shortcut 5) change audo/subtitle tracks 6) very rarely do I fast-forward or rewind.
I'm really curious what you guys are doing that you need all this extra stuff.
Still using SPlayer [Not SMPlayer] for damn near everything. It's a clean interface on top of MPlayer. I looked up the Hi10p thing and it seems to be anime people using it mostly, though 20-40% reductions in file size aren't to be laughed at. It seems to help banding, which I can see being a big plus for animation.
I personally prefer the K-Lite Codec Pack, or to be more specific, Media Player Classic because it can resume files and DVDs. I also run into some weird files occasionally while looking for old wrestling matches, but VLC is a solid choice.
@Apreche Playlists? Scrubbing forward or backward?
I use playlists for audio, not video. If I finish watching a video, and I want to continue, I just click on the next one in Explorer. Or I'm using XBMC, and it just plays the directory if I tell it to.
Also, more than 50% of my video watching is in a browser, XBox, app, etc., so I don't even use video player that much.
Look at the US-born bias on this guy. The pack only looks shady if you have averse reactions to the colour red accompanied by yellow symbols, or acronym jokes.
Hardly.
My beef with CCCP is that it has that "I am full of malware" aesthetic that's so common in crappy malware from download portals. It looks awful.
@Apreche Playlists? Scrubbing forward or backward?
VLC has playlists. As for scrubbing, what is your use case in particular? I would argue that the vast majority of users will, at most, fast forward with frame previews. Most people don't need to scrub, and people who do tend to be using video editing software for some higher purpose.
@Apreche Playlists? Scrubbing forward or backward?
VLC has playlists. As for scrubbing, what is your use case in particular?
Porn.
This is a great example of the thing I stated earlier. You are talking about the implementation of a solution, but your solution is wrong. The entire premise is wrong.
Why do you have porn that has been downloaded? Watch all porn in browser in private mode.
Name a specific option that you need to change, and then argue successfully that it is a necessary option.
Option, from optional, the ability to choose. Options, inherently are not necessary, but, necessity being defined by the users needs: Selecting a different renderer that allows for the taking of screenshots.
Also, I do not know if it is true that an "Hi10P encoded H.264" video failed with anything other than CCCP because I have never encountered such a video.
As I said, uninformed. Do you happen to have been watching any fansubbed anime this season, or previous season?
I have never encountered a single video that did not play perfectly.
By your definition of perfectly in this case. You know as well as I that while it may look perfect and flawless on the end-users' side, behind the scenes the software may be making a lot of assumptions and/or concessions to get things working. Browsers are a good example. Quirks mode anyone?
You aren't going to be able to win this without naming a specific feature or pointing us towards a specific video.
I will do even better. I will provide you with an MPlayer SVN build (via SMPlayer's sourceforge page, interestingly enough in a 7z archive) available at the time and a Hi10P version of the Madoka opener (66MB file of 1080p Hi10P H.264 video + AAC audio packed in the MKV container) that was used to let people check if their video playback software was able to properly deal with it. Be sure to drag the video file onto the mplayer.exe file so that you won't accidentally open it with your current video player. Please, post results.
Sometimes I find something really good, and I want to save it for later. Never know when that Brazilian fart porn site is getting taken down. And what about Internet outages? "Welp, I'm bored, guess I'll just jerk-OH GOD THE PORN IS DOWN TOO!"
It pays to be prepared in the event of emergencies.
Sometimes I find something really good, and I want to save it for later. Never know when that Brazilian fart porn site is getting taken down. And what about Internet outages? "Welp, I'm bored, guess I'll just jerk-OH GOD THE PORN IS DOWN TOO!"
It pays to be prepared in the event of emergencies.
My beef with CCCP is that it has that "I am full of malware" aesthetic that's so common in crappy malware from download portals. It looks awful.
My personal experience with malware downloads are that they are dressed up with tons of banners, buttons and attention grabbing 'facts', not a Google-like simplicity that you find on the CCCP startpage.
Why do you have porn that has been downloaded? Watch all porn in browser in private mode.
Sometimes I find something really good, and I want to save it for later. Never know when that Brazilian fart porn site is getting taken down. And what about Internet outages? "Welp, I'm bored, guess I'll just jerk-OH GOD THE PORN IS DOWN TOO!"
It pays to be prepared in the event of emergencies.
Sometimes I find something really good, and I want to save it for later. Never know when that Brazilian fart porn site is getting taken down. And what about Internet outages? "Welp, I'm bored, guess I'll just jerk-OH GOD THE PORN IS DOWN TOO!"
It pays to be prepared in the event of emergencies.
I should not be laughing right now but that image you pictured just tickled me.
Name a specific option that you need to change, and then argue successfully that it is a necessary option.
Option, from optional, the ability to choose. Options, inherently are not necessary, but, necessity being defined by the users needs: Selecting a different renderer that allows for the taking of screenshots.
Also, I do not know if it is true that an "Hi10P encoded H.264" video failed with anything other than CCCP because I have never encountered such a video.
As I said, uninformed. Do you happen to have been watching any fansubbed anime this season, or previous season?
I have never encountered a single video that did not play perfectly.
By your definition of perfectly in this case. You know as well as I that while it may look perfect and flawless on the end-users' side, behind the scenes the software may be making a lot of assumptions and/or concessions to get things working. Browsers are a good example. Quirks mode anyone?
You aren't going to be able to win this without naming a specific feature or pointing us towards a specific video.
I will do even better. I will provide you with an MPlayer SVN build (via SMPlayer's sourceforge page, interestingly enough in a 7z archive) available at the time and a Hi10P version of the Madoka opener (66MB file of 1080p Hi10P H.264 video + AAC audio packed in the MKV container) that was used to let people check if their video playback software was able to properly deal with it. Be sure to drag the video file onto the mplayer.exe file so that you won't accidentally open it with your current video player. Please, post results.
Why is it necessary to use a different renderer to take screenshots? Sounds like a case of the wrong solution. Screenshots can be obtained many ways with much less trouble. Ro even got a screenshot using the old alt+prtscr trick!
I haven't watched very much fansubbed anime in a long time because pretty much everything I want to watch is free legal streaming. Those fansubs that I have downloaded have all played perfectly. Watched all of Madoka no problem. Was beautiful, would watch again.
Perfect and flawless on the end users side, you are the end user. If something weird is happening in the background, what do you care? Don't look there. The video plays in its entirety. The audio plays. They are synchronized. There are full HDs. You enjoy the show. Mission accomplished. Nothing wrong with browser in quirks mode. Page loads, you can use the page, it renders properly, all is well.
Madoka opener sample file specifically crafted to cause a problem? Nice try. Find a real world example. Take any application in the universe and someone can craft a file it can't deal with.
Try finding a video that someone would actually encounter in the wild that is worth watching that CCCP is the only thing that can play it. You know, something that isn't on YouTube that you would actually have to download. And even if MPlayer development is behind on one particular codec, can VLC XBMC play it? I bet they can.
That tends to kill the bandwidth pretty badly and hence make HD untenable. It's also more effort to set up decently than torrents while being just as illegal.
If I lived in the U.S. I'd probably do what you do because I don't really mind the expense of services like Netflix, but outside of the U.S. torrents are still the way to go.
I think I rather just download a season/series and then watch it with ease instead of playing around with proxy settings every time I want to watch some animus.
I just got IPredator VPN. It ruins your ping for online gaming, but the bandwidth is crazy high. If you have it on, you don't even realize it is slowing you down in any way. It was trivial to setup, and the documentation was amazing. It cost $22 US for 3 months.
I just got IPredator VPN. It ruins your ping for online gaming, but the bandwidth is crazy high. If you have it on, you don't even realize it is slowing you down in any way. It was trivial to setup, and the documentation was amazing. It cost $22 US for 3 months.
Where is the server located? If it's in Sweden or some shit, then Hulu and such won't work.
I just got IPredator VPN. It ruins your ping for online gaming, but the bandwidth is crazy high. If you have it on, you don't even realize it is slowing you down in any way. It was trivial to setup, and the documentation was amazing. It cost $22 US for 3 months.
Will it hide my torrent downloads? Because I'm ready to shell out right now if it will.
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Tell me, what is wrong with an actually maintained pre-configured package that offers you the freedom, if you so desire, to change many useful options in one place from a friendly GUI interface (if you know what you're doing). It's not like MPlayer doesn't have a lot of boolean options that can be set hidden away from users in large help files and verbose option lists, right...
When was the last time MPlayer put out an actual release instead of doing nothing but jacking off in their trunk? Instead users have to find their binaries from third parties. Can you still download Boxee for Windows? VLC might have stepped over to FFMpeg, instead of their own codecs, but doesn't their subtitle renderer still suck? Does their seek functionality not still produce filth worse than the crap you poop on a daily basis? And VLC's GUI still looks like crap if you ask me. There is absolutely no reason for your unwarranted bullshit opinion on CCCP.
Have you ever been, unofficially, endorsed by a Google Inc. subsidiary that produces video software that's now about as ubiquitous as Adobe's Flash player?
I have never used CCCP. I have never encountered a single video that did not play perfectly. I have never needed an option or feature I did not have. I watch fuck-tons of digitally downloaded videos from a wide variety of sources.
You aren't going to be able to win this without naming a specific feature or pointing us towards a specific video.
1) double click on the file in explorer to play the video
2) quit the video player
3) play/pause with spacebar
4) full-screen with appropriate shortcut
5) change audo/subtitle tracks
6) very rarely do I fast-forward or rewind.
I'm really curious what you guys are doing that you need all this extra stuff.
I looked up the Hi10p thing and it seems to be anime people using it mostly, though 20-40% reductions in file size aren't to be laughed at. It seems to help banding, which I can see being a big plus for animation.
Also, more than 50% of my video watching is in a browser, XBox, app, etc., so I don't even use video player that much.
My beef with CCCP is that it has that "I am full of malware" aesthetic that's so common in crappy malware from download portals. It looks awful.
VLC has playlists. As for scrubbing, what is your use case in particular? I would argue that the vast majority of users will, at most, fast forward with frame previews. Most people don't need to scrub, and people who do tend to be using video editing software for some higher purpose.
Why do you have porn that has been downloaded? Watch all porn in browser in private mode.
It pays to be prepared in the event of emergencies.
I haven't watched very much fansubbed anime in a long time because pretty much everything I want to watch is free legal streaming. Those fansubs that I have downloaded have all played perfectly. Watched all of Madoka no problem. Was beautiful, would watch again.
Perfect and flawless on the end users side, you are the end user. If something weird is happening in the background, what do you care? Don't look there. The video plays in its entirety. The audio plays. They are synchronized. There are full HDs. You enjoy the show. Mission accomplished. Nothing wrong with browser in quirks mode. Page loads, you can use the page, it renders properly, all is well.
Madoka opener sample file specifically crafted to cause a problem? Nice try. Find a real world example. Take any application in the universe and someone can craft a file it can't deal with.
Try finding a video that someone would actually encounter in the wild that is worth watching that CCCP is the only thing that can play it. You know, something that isn't on YouTube that you would actually have to download. And even if MPlayer development is behind on one particular codec, can VLC XBMC play it? I bet they can.
If I lived in the U.S. I'd probably do what you do because I don't really mind the expense of services like Netflix, but outside of the U.S. torrents are still the way to go.