In one video the elder Mateen holds up a sign that reads: 'ISI Pakistan and Military is Destroying 14 years of US work in Afghanistan to cut AID to killers'.
I don't know he seems to just be really strange, he seems to like the US and hate Pakistan?
Reddit went crazy following the incident. Apparently at one point 27 of the top 50 posts in r/all were from r/The_Donald. r/news deleted a fuck ton of comments and some links related to the shooter being Muslim, leading to them loosing a bunch of followers to r/news_uncensored. I didn't see the deleted comments so I have no idea whether they were reasonable comments pointing it out or people being shitty, but apparently the comment section was a graveyard so either one is a big deal (for different reasons). Also these two pictures have been upvoted pretty high in other subs:
Also worth noting - according to an admin post in Announcements, the mods of /r/news were pretty much immediately harassed and showered with death(and other) threats.
According to the admins, it seems many of the deleted posts were people being shitty. Quote Steve Huffman -
We have seen the accusations of censorship. We have investigated, and beyond the posts that are now restored, have not found evidence to support these claims.
I keep seeing this video like it's some kind of revelation. Everyone thinks they are the good guys... thank you Captain Obvious.
I think anyone interested in thinking about American and Western foreign policy for more than 5 minutes realizes the colossal failures therein and the massive failure under Bush in the Iraq Invasion and the lack of a plan for afterwards and the Obama failures to put together a cohesive strategy.
It's obvious that ISIS/ISIL was able to form in the vacuum and chaos that the invasions lead to, but we don't need to 'understand' or 'listen to ISIS, they are an abhorrent group bent on power and abuse. They throw gay men off buildings, they trade sex slaves, they burn prisoners alive, they film themselves executing old ladies for wearing to colorful clothing and then post it because they are proud of it!
There are European Jihadist trying to get back to Europe because they realize that yes, ISIS is made up of psychopathic subhumans and they realize they have been tricked.
So what's to understand and talk about? They believe in a way of life 180 degrees from what the West believes and far enough from what the average Iraqi and Syrian believes that people celebrate when they are pushed out of territory.
Yes she makes a few good points in her video, but I just don't get why it's being celebrated so much. When a power system is so radically opposed to your way of life you don't listen and understand it into a peaceful coexistence, you have to fight it.
So I got the opportunity to talk to my parents the other day. It was sad. They asked me what I thought of the Orlando shooting and if I thought it was terrorism. I replied of course it was terrorism, but then I had to step back. I asked what he meant by terrorism. He replied, motivated by Daesh shitheads, (I'm paraphrasing). I asked what terrorism, in general, meant. Apparently it's horrifying acts committed by either vaguely middle eastern people, or by people motivated by vaguely middle eastern people against western ideals.
I almost didn't have the heart to continue. How can I even talk about this? In the wake of the tragedy. The easy path here, the one I'll probably take, is live and let live. I didn't want to fight, and that's really all I could see happening if I told the truth. I'm sad twice over, for the victims and for the fact that this will just be more ammo in people like my parent's pouch for racism and xenophobia.
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So I'd guess some combination of radicalized zealotry coupled with deep homophobia.
What the fuck is happening in our country?!!!
http://abc7.com/news/suspect-w--arsenal-in-car-taken-into-custody-in-santa-monica/1382290/
I don't know he seems to just be really strange, he seems to like the US and hate Pakistan?
"Oh, only 9? That's not so bad."
And then I went on with my day.
Fuck everything.
According to the admins, it seems many of the deleted posts were people being shitty. Quote Steve Huffman -
I keep seeing this video like it's some kind of revelation. Everyone thinks they are the good guys... thank you Captain Obvious.
I think anyone interested in thinking about American and Western foreign policy for more than 5 minutes realizes the colossal failures therein and the massive failure under Bush in the Iraq Invasion and the lack of a plan for afterwards and the Obama failures to put together a cohesive strategy.
It's obvious that ISIS/ISIL was able to form in the vacuum and chaos that the invasions lead to, but we don't need to 'understand' or 'listen to ISIS, they are an abhorrent group bent on power and abuse. They throw gay men off buildings, they trade sex slaves, they burn prisoners alive, they film themselves executing old ladies for wearing to colorful clothing and then post it because they are proud of it!
There are European Jihadist trying to get back to Europe because they realize that yes, ISIS is made up of psychopathic subhumans and they realize they have been tricked.
So what's to understand and talk about? They believe in a way of life 180 degrees from what the West believes and far enough from what the average Iraqi and Syrian believes that people celebrate when they are pushed out of territory.
Yes she makes a few good points in her video, but I just don't get why it's being celebrated so much. When a power system is so radically opposed to your way of life you don't listen and understand it into a peaceful coexistence, you have to fight it.
I almost didn't have the heart to continue. How can I even talk about this? In the wake of the tragedy. The easy path here, the one I'll probably take, is live and let live. I didn't want to fight, and that's really all I could see happening if I told the truth. I'm sad twice over, for the victims and for the fact that this will just be more ammo in people like my parent's pouch for racism and xenophobia.
Go home, Newt. You're drunk.
"He was heard shouting “Britain First” during the shocking assault."
Xenophobia is a mental illness.