Tablets (the iPad kind)
  • So I've been shopping around for a tablet recently, to complement our netbook and allow me to read through PDFs for work easier than having to sit at a computer (plus my kindle doesn't read pdf's very gracefully), and I'm wondering about the current crop of devices out there. Has anyone had experience with the Galaxy Tab (or the newer Tab 10.1?)?

    My current thoughts are that I might get an iPad (first gen) since it seems to meet my needs (PDF reader, light web browsing, some fun with apps), and the price point is pretty low now. Plus, honestly, I like iOS for tablets despite disliking Apple rather intensely.
  • I liked the original Galaxy tab from the little bit of time I spent with it at my store. One thing worth considering is ease of transfer and download. To the best of my knowledge, it will be easier to transfer direct from a computer or download files from the net on an Android tablet. The iPad will require iTunes to transfer through and you won't be able to download files to store them on the iPad directly.
  • The iPad will require iTunes to transfer through and you won't be able to download files to store them on the iPad directly.



    Well, that kind of kills the iPad for me then. I don't want to have to use iTunes, and if I can't easily transfer and use PDFs on the iPad there's no reason for me to have one of those. If I got a Galaxy, it'd have to be one of the 10" screen ones, as smaller isn't worth it for me. Smaller is fine for my ebooks, but anything with graphs and flow charts would be harder to follow.

    On to Newegg I go!
  • The iPad will require iTunes to transfer through and you won't be able to download files to store them on the iPad directly.

    Bull. There are tons of apps in the App store that allow you to transfer files to the iPad via WiFi or some cloud service. The most obvious example is Dropbox.

    You currently do need iTunes for the initial setup, but a) you can get that done in the apple store if you really don't even want to install iTunes once on your machine and b) with iOS 5 (i.e. within a couple of weeks) this requirement will be gone.
  • The iPad will require iTunes to transfer through and you won't be able to download files to store them on the iPad directly.



    Well, that kind of kills the iPad for me then. I don't want to have to use iTunes, and if I can't easily transfer and use PDFs on the iPad there's no reason for me to have one of those. If I got a Galaxy, it'd have to be one of the 10" screen ones, as smaller isn't worth it for me. Smaller is fine for my ebooks, but anything with graphs and flow charts would be harder to follow.

    On to Newegg I go!


    That is not the only way to manage files on an iPad. A program called Goodreader goes a good job of managing files and the dropbox app reads PDFs natively and whatever you drop in to your dropbox folder just appears.
  • That is not the only way to manage files on an iPad. A program called Goodreader goes a good job of managing files and the dropbox app reads PDFs natively and whatever you drop in to your dropbox folder just appears.


    Cool. Guess it's not out of the running entirely, then. It's still a bit out of my price range, but we'll see what an afternoon browsing Newegg does.
  • The 32gig Xoom is $350 on Woot today.
  • you don't need iTunes or any app at all to download PDFs on iOS. Anytime you try to open a PDF whether it be as an email attachment or if you navigate to it in safari, it asks if you want to just download the file into iBooks instead of opening it as a temporary file.
  • Is anyone curious about the Kindle Fire? I glanced over the news articles & took a look at it's amazon page, it looks neat, shiny and at the right price of $199. No camera or microphone, though, are those really necessary on a tablet? Runs android OS.
  • It looks nice, but it doesn't have an SD card slot, and its only running android 2.3. I'm interested in how long it will take for someone to port over Gingerbread. If they do it right, I may buy one.
  • I'm curious about how the iOS 5 cloud initiative is going to change things. We'll find out soon enough.
  • You know, Vanilla 2 search is useless.
  • Hey all! My kindle died recently so I'm looking at getting a tablet as a replacement. I was considering the Kindle Fire due to it's low price, but I wanted to see if anyone here owned a tablet and, if so, what you thought about it.
  • Sonic said:

    You know, Vanilla 2 search is useless.

    It's actually just fine. It just doesn't have the pre-Vanilla 2 threads indexed.
  • Mine would be so very awesome had it 1) Had any programs written for it (it'll get Android stuff in February, but I kinda want, like, proper GTK and Linux applications. Currently it has like, maybe, 8.) 2) The battery lasted at least a day of use.
  • Apreche said:

    Sonic said:

    You know, Vanilla 2 search is useless.

    It's actually just fine. It just doesn't have the pre-Vanilla 2 threads indexed.
    It's not just that, it also only seems to search comments and not thread titles.

    [Edit] The merge function is rather nice, though.
  • I'm considering buying a Nook tablet. You can side load apps from which I gather you do from a sd card. By side loading you can have access to the Kindle store. You can also root it fairly easily it seems and have a full blown android tablet with access to the android market. Hardware specs are decent as well.
  • The Kindle Fire is great if you are big into Amazon. Otherwise it's OK only.

    I need to root mine just enough to get the Google Android Marketplace on it. There is no way I'm going to pay twice for apps I have already purchased.
  • Blackberry playbooks are pretty cheap now. At office max they had the 16 gig model for $200, and you can convert android apps to run on it so those of you looking at a kindle fire might want to check it out.
  • Okay, so I did some digging and I think I'm going to get the Nook Color with Cyanogen mod.
    Here's why:
    • Cyanogen mod turns it into a real tablet, not just a nook.
    • It also appears to enable the hidden bluetooth capabilites of the wifi chipset.
    • I can install the kindle app on it, giving me access to my dozen or so kindle books that I've bought
    • Putting Cyanogen mod on it means I can use android's google apps, great for me because I've got more than a few Gmail and Apps for domains accounts, including calendar, etc.
    • Kindle Fire hasn't been rooted yet.


    Really, the biggest factors for me in choosing a table was price and the ability to access my kindle library. The kindle fire had the edge on price until I found out that the nook color was only $200.
  • But for $50 more you could get the new Nook tablet...
  • True... And, although there is no Cyanogen mod for it now, there probably will be soon. On the other hand, is there the ability to side-load apps onto it?

    EDIT: Yes, yes there is.
  • Also for 50 bucks more you get more memory and a fast processor on the Nook tablet.
  • When prompted, I went with the Kindle keyboard. I mean, I already have my phone that does 99% of what a tablet would do for me, and does it equally well in a smaller package, so it's easier to carry day-to-day. However, the kindle does the small few things that it does very, very well - better than my phone does. Carry isn't an issue, in that case, as times when I'd use it are times when pocket space isn't an issue.
  • So... turns out my Playbook's bootloader only allows stuff signed by RIM, so I can't get Linux on it. Even though Blackberry support totally said I could! I was like "Yo will putting Linux on it go against TOS?" and they were like, actually, they said, this is a quote;

    Regarding your inquiry with adding Linux software to your BlackBerry PlayBook, you can do this if you wish, but it is not recommended by RIM, as it will not be supported, and will void your warranty. You would be able to go back to QNX, but again this would not be support by RIM.



    I've had several emails from Blackberry support with typos or bad grammar. =P
  • I haz a nook tablet.
  • Here's what I've done to it:
    Rooted it.
    Installed Gapps
    Installed GoLauncher EX
    Installed Homecatcher to redirect the Nook Key to GoLauncher
    Installed Amazon Appstore
    Installed Winamp (pleasantly surprised it does the intelligent thing of storing synced files to the sdcard rather than to the internal memory.


    Also, watching High School of the Dead on Netflix streaming.

    This is so awesome! If only I could get it to connect to my phone's ad-hoc wifi access point.
  • That's awesome.
  • Very awesome! I ended up with an iPad 2 and it works perfectly for what I want. Many nights of watching Ponies has been had with it.
  • Yeah, I wish the Nook tablet had a camera like the iPad, but for the price *shrug*.

    Anyways, it's only gonna get better once cyanogen mod gets ported to it.
  • Listening to the the most recent Geek Nights right now and Rym is telling his story about how people on the subway approached him about the book he's reading for the book club had me thinking about e-readers/Kindles. Normally people will see what book you're reading and strike up a conversation when they see what you're reading and have a similar interest. This sort of thing goes away when you are reading things on a tablet.

    Just a random thought.
  • Yet another benefit of ereaders ;)
  • Yet another benefit of ereaders ;)

    I think it goes both ways. There are some titles I really don't want others to know I'm reading, while at the same time you miss out on the opportunity of meeting new people or having interesting conversations.
  • Rochelle said:

    Listening to the the most recent Geek Nights right now and Rym is telling his story about how people on the subway approached him about the book he's reading for the book club had me thinking about e-readers/Kindles. Normally people will see what book you're reading and strike up a conversation when they see what you're reading and have a similar interest. This sort of thing goes away when you are reading things on a tablet.

    Just a random thought.

    I can still see what people are reading if the title or author is on the top middle of the screen. It's no different than if someone is reading something without a cover. For example, I saw a guy on the subway a few days ago reading a Sesame Street Script. It was just paper, but I could tell what it was anyway.
  • Anybody scope out the new Asus Transformer Prime? It looks really nice but cost about as much as a Ipad 2. Even still it's probably one of the best Android tablets out there so far.

  • As nice as the tablets look, I can't quite motivate myself to fork over $500 or so for one as of yet -- I don't really have any need for one right now. That said, my mom did just get an iPad 2 and she absolutely loves it, but it is just about the perfect type of computing device for her.
  • Right now if I was going to buy a 10 inch android tablet, It would be the Transformer prime. I really like the dock. It actually has a touchpad so you can really use it like a laptop when its in the dock. I wish it weren't so expensive though. When you combine the Tablet and the dock, It's almost enough to buy myself a new pc which would probably give me a lot more use.

    I like the look of the Acer Iconia 7 inch tablet. Its only around $250 (at walmart, at least) and it seemed really nice when I was messing around with it at best buy. The only real flaw I can see is that it only has a 5 hour battery life. I think I'd still pick that over the Kindle fire or Nook tablet though.
  • For 7 inch tablets I really like the Toshiba Thrive. It's costly though.

  • My friend has a 10 inch thrive and it seems pretty nice, but it is a beast. Its probably twice as thick as any of the other tablets out there. I really like the Galaxy tab 7+/7.7 but they're both pricey as well.
  • The Galaxy tab 7 is also really nice. The screen resolution and camera megapixels are better on the Thrive but the Galaxy beats the Thrive in almost everything else.
  • But I already have an iPhone!
  • I doubt they'll actually make a smaller iPad, honestly, but I could see them having some produced just to test it out. The production date is off for a release, too, cause the iPad announcement event is next Wednesday. I'm confident enough that they're gonna be announcing a "retina" dpi iPad that I already sold my current one :P
  • Digitimes is the National Enquirer of Apple rumors.
  • iPad mini is coming.


    Negatory megatron. Apple doesn't want to fragment its resolutions like that. I'm 99.9% sure they're sticking with iPhone 3G, iPhone retina (2x), iPad, and iPad retina (2x). It makes things like subpixel smoothing and such really easy for developers, and makes the resulting apps look more polished and professional.

    My prediction for March 7th: Retina Display iPad 3, 1080p iTunes video, possibly a different sized connector, maybe some kind of TV thing.
  • I've got the iPad nano :P (iPod Touch)
  • I don't know why people are so easily convinced that iPad retina is coming. It's next to impossible. Here are the many reasons why.

    We have only seen proof that a display with pixels as small as the retina display can be manufactured in quantity at a reasonable price at a size of 3.5". There is no evidence of even a prototype of such a display at 9.7", let alone being able to be mass manufactured at a reasonable price. Apple is very secretive, but it's much more likely that it just doesn't exist.

    The resolution would be something close to 2660 x 1770. The 27" Apple monitor is 2560 by 1440. It's literally impossible to develop apps for a retina iPad because nobody has a monitor that can display them.

    Even powerful desktop PCs that don't care about power consumption will have trouble rendering things at a resolution so high with a decent frame rate. Most likely you are going to need high end GPUs with big ass fans that eat up all the watts. How exactly do you expect an iPad to be able to render anything at that kind of resolution without eating the entire battery? What happens when somebody decides to play Infinity Blade 2? What GPU in the world even exists that you could put in there? If NVidia or AMD makes such a GPU, I want it in my desktop PC right now.

    A retina display that is around 7" is much more believable. The resolution would be closer to 2070x1370. Even so, that is still insane. It would be like having a magical time machine and traveling into the future to skip a generation of technology.

    Imagine if the Google glasses come out, and they are perfect amazing like what you imagine in sci-fi novels and movies. That is impossible. You know they are going to be janky, and have issues with focus, glare, battery, and all sorts of things. If there is a 7" or a 9" retina display, that would be an incredible leap forward in display technology. It will happen one day, but I have extreme doubts that it will happen next week.

    If I'm wrong, I'll eat a hat and buy an iPad.
  • Well then we'll be welcoming you to the world of magical and revolutionary products next week!

    Also it's not supposedly true "retina", it's 2048x1536. It's like 280 ppi or something like that.


    VVV Yeah I guess it was even kind of arbitrary for the iPhone 4/s, cause some science says it has to be ~400 ppi or something to be real retina. Either way... it looks super good.
  • I wonder if apple will just make an iPad with a higher resolution display and CALL IT a retina display.

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