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Why buy real cards when I can have digital ones :-p
Yeah. Back in my day I had to buy boosters in the mall, and it wasn't from a game store. In the future, mommy will buy a whole box of boosters for $50.
Posted By: TheWhaleSharkVassal
Then, we won't even need to have physical space anymore.
Keanu: "I know Kung Fu...."Alex Trebek: For the last time, no you don't!
I completely agree that using these types of programs to simulate games isn't very satisfying. But using Rym and Scott's arguments, it's only a matter of time before ALL physical games become unprofitable and we play everything online.
I never said that. In fact, I said the opposite, that until we have fully immersive VR, physical spaces for interaction will become more and more valuable, much moreso than any retail opportunities presented therein.The value in the game store is the community and the physical space. It's not in the games. The Pokemon kids and people who buy out of charity fund these places. As long as you continue to do this, people like me can gain access to these places completely free of charge. That's fine and dandy for me. But it's not so dandy when people like me become the majority, and the store is either out of business orjustPokemon.
The only demographic I'm not in anymore is being willing to buy anything in person if I can get it cheaper online under just about any circumstances. I even buy my groceries online (cheaper than the store, delivered INTO MY FRIDGE by porters).
Buying the exact same product from an online store instead of a physical store is not the same as buying a digital version of the product.
So, based on the above, you don't need to buy ANY boardgame ever again if it's available on Vassal or another program.
Exactly. I order physical, real board games online. They're cheaper than from gaming stores and arrive forthwith. I'm not sure how this could have been confusing. Did you think I was ordering virtual groceries?Game stores can't compete with Internet vendors on price and reliability, nevermind convenience. And, for me, this applies to almost all retail.
That's mostly because GW will not ship product to people who sell said products in an online shopping cart for anything less than MSRP. Consequently, a lot of brick and mortar places order the stuff and then discount it in-store. The WarStore does the same thing via phone. That, however, is a unique case.
My point was, that if you extend your reasoning, that cheaper is ALWAYS better, then something FREE must be better than something that costs money. Internet vendors can't compete with something that costs nothing.
An online version of a game doesn't come with physical pieces: it's a different product. But a physical board game, bought online, costs less than the same game in a store in most cases.
That's very close to being illegal. And, there are ways around it. Amazon gets around similar trust-like restrictions by selling below MSRP, but not displaying the price until you check out. The only reason no one skirts it with Warhammer is probably just that the market isn't big enough.
It's not illegal.
Physical pieces aren't necessary to enjoy a game. If your goal is to save as much money as possible, then as long as you can play the game in any form, that should be good enough.
Physical pieces are just an added benefit that you're paying for. The same as the benefits I'm paying for by buying from a gaming store.
could care less
I didn't say it was. I said it was close. There's a very, very fine line between shady-but-legal price restrictions and illegal price restrictions.
By you having a preference for a physical copy of the game, as opposed to an online version, you're adding value to the physical components. You think it is worth money to have a physical copy. You don't need a physical copy to PLAY the game. I add value to supporting my local gaming store, something I don't need to do but I think is worth the money. They're the same thing.
The use of the store for playing games is at best a gentleman's agreement.
Sure, but it's an agreement that works out in everyone's favor when applied correctly. Not every agreement needs to be (nor should be) a contract.
Does anyone make bootleg Warhammer minis?
I just don't believe it will continue to work out. It's silly to do business like this when better, longer-term, sustainable models exist.