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GeekNights Tuesday - Pokemon Conquest

MrPeriodMrPeriod
edited July 2012 in GeekNights

Tonight on GeekNights, we fully review Pokemon Conquest: aka Nobunga's Poke-ambition (or Nobunaga's, if you can spell). It's an OK poke-battling game, but falls short in every other area. We also consider the ramifications of Stream Greenlight, and make predictions as to the eventual failure and disappointment from the somewhat ludicrous OUYA game console kickstarter. Back-of-the-curve hardware coupled with an app-store business model does not a console make.

Also, ConnectiCon 2012 is this weekend, and there's a hugely full schedule of events. We're also happy to be able to announce our lecture at PAX Prime 2012: Short Subjects in Gaming. We'll be covering rhythm games, skill games, and ethics in games, among other things, in a format similar to our previous Triple Threat (which featured MMORPGs, Game Communities, and Dudebro).

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  • RochelleRochelle
    I played a few hours of the game and got bored. So I deleted my file and gave it to a friend, who is more of a Pokemon fan, for their birthday.
  • Hitman HartHitman Hart
    I read The Man Who Was Thursday when I had to read like 8 books(including a mostly uncut Les Miserables, screw that book!) Over a summer going into Boston Latin for the 9th grade. I remember it being interesting but it was a bit over my head then. I'd be interested in revisiting that.
  • MATATATMATATAT
    edited July 2012
    I played a few hours of the game and got bored. So I deleted my file and gave it to a friend, who is more of a Pokemon fan, for their birthday.
    Yeah I got bored of this game within the first two battles. Good thing I pirated it first.
    Post edited by MATATAT on
  • RymRym
    The battling is a little more fun than regular Pokemon battling, and getting the Pokemon you want is about the same level of annoyance.

    Still, this game would be awesome if the multiplayer were like GemFire or real Nobunaga's Ambition: city management and all.
  • AndrewAndrew
    GemFire
    Oooo I remember you showing me this at New Years.

  • AprecheApreche
    GemFire
    Oooo I remember you showing me this at New Years.

    On what Game Gear?
  • AndrewAndrew
    What game are you talking about?
  • RymRym
    GemFire
    Oooo I remember you showing me this at New Years.

    On what Game Gear?
    You're thinking of Crystal Warriors.
  • AprecheApreche
    What game are you talking about?
    Now I'm not so sure myself. I know there was some game Rym used to play on Game Gear, thought it was Gemfire.
  • AprecheApreche
    GemFire
    Oooo I remember you showing me this at New Years.

    On what Game Gear?
    You're thinking of Crystal Warriors.
    Yes.
  • MATATATMATATAT
    Also I think the second book really interesting for the book club. The Great Gatsby also seems cool but I like the sound of the second one plus nerdy reference.
  • GregGreg
    My dad (read as Constantine) will not shut up about The Man Who Was Thursday. I haven't read it out of spite to him. Rym, if you choose it for the book club I will have an awful choice I have to make.
  • GantyGanty
    edited July 2012
    Your conversation about pronunciation made me remember the podcast you did about Yotsuba. I couldn't finish it because you mispronounced it and it irked me. It's Yoh-tsu-bah-to よつばと. Fair enough it's probably just the natural way an American English speaker would read it and there's no anime or anything I suppose. It's not important at all really but I HAD TO SAY IT.
    Post edited by Ganty on
  • AprecheApreche
    Your conversation about pronunciation made me remember the podcast you did about Yotsuba. I couldn't finish it because you mispronounced it and it irked me. It's Yoh-tsu-bah-to よつばと. Fair enough it's probably just the natural way an American English speaker would read it and there's no anime or anything I suppose. It's not important at all really but I HAD TO SAY IT.
    I know how to pronounce Yotsuba&!
  • Grunkie7Grunkie7
    I vote for Thursday solely and shallowly for the fact that I read excerpts from the book lying around in the original dues ex. (I also didn't care for the Great Gatspy but more likely due to it being assigned high school reading than anything else).
  • GantyGanty
    I know how to pronounce Yotsuba&!
    Maybe I should listen again but I remember being excited to listen to that podcast and having trouble getting through it. I think it's more the weird stress you put on the first syllable. Thats exactly how little japanese kids always try to imitate the way foreigners say japanese words that annoyed me.
  • Not nineNot nine
    I know how to pronounce Yotsuba&!
    What? Seriously?
  • MattMatt
    edited July 2012
    BTW just thought I'd throw this one in here (without commentary) since the absence of Angry Birds on consoles was mentioned in the episode. A compilation of the first three Angry Birds titles is coming to Xbox and PS3 for $40 each (Kinect and Move enabled) as well as 3DS for $30. Oy.

    Speaking of oy. The Ouya is going to be a piece of shit. I hung my head in shame when I failed to convince someone it was not worth their money. They whittled down their argument to "I'm OK with it if I spend $100 and all I wind up getting is a tablet with decent specs that is permanently tethered to my TV."

    I tried to explain to him that he wasn't even really getting that, but he already is happy with his imaginary turd sandwich. No point in debating further.
    Post edited by Matt on
  • NeitoNeito
    BTW just thought I'd throw this one in here (without commentary) since the absence of Angry Birds on consoles was mentioned in the episode. A compilation of the first three Angry Birds titles is coming to Xbox and PS3 for $40 each (Kinect and Move enabled) as well as 3DS for $30. Oy.

    Speaking of oy. The Ouya is going to be a piece of shit. I hung my head in shame when I failed to convince someone it was not worth their money. They whittled down their argument to "I'm OK with it if I spend $100 and all I wind up getting is a tablet with decent specs that is permanently tethered to my TV."

    I tried to explain to him that he wasn't even really getting that, but he already is happy with his imaginary turd sandwich. No point in debating further.
    You can't save some people from themselves.
  • AprecheApreche
    People can be fooled by the same trick over and over again. Remember netbooks. OMG, a computer for just $100! So tons of people bought them. Then they hardly ever used them and went back to using real computers and netbooks disappeared. This is basically a netconsole instead of netbook. OMG a video game console for $100! Then they hardly ever play it and it sucks. Then goes back to XBox.
  • MattMatt
    I see it as comparable to those faux-Atari consoles that have (mostly crap) games pre-loaded on them. If Ouya ever does come to exist, it'd wind up on the clearance rack at your local drug store, right next to the "As Seen on TV" products.
  • HMTKSteveHMTKSteve
    Pokemon Conquest has lots of problems. For starters the designers seemed to have decided to deviate from the normal format of explaining games properly.

    For example, the rulebook mentions catching Pokemon and some of the characters mention it as well early on but you do not unlock the ability to catch Pokemon until later in the game. I was going crazy trying to figure out why I couldn't catch Pokemon until after I took my fifth castle and a tutorial appeared on how to catch them.

    Same thing with the passcodes. You can't enter them until you capture five castles but the game never tells you that. The option is just grayed out. Which led an old Pokemon player like myself to look online for some code I had to enter somewhere ala mystery gift from previous games.

  • open_sketchbookopen_sketchbook
    Scott's assertion that Reddit "works" versus child porn made me chuckle, considering Reddit's infamous jailbait subs and the huge controversy over their closing. You let the people decide, you quickly discover the people are stupid.
  • NeitoNeito
    Reddit doesn't work unless you have mods that force it to work (/r/anime), otherwise it becomes a shithole (/r/atheism).
  • MATATATMATATAT
    edited July 2012
    People can be fooled by the same trick over and over again. Remember netbooks. OMG, a computer for just $100! So tons of people bought them. Then they hardly ever used them and went back to using real computers and netbooks disappeared. This is basically a netconsole instead of netbook. OMG a video game console for $100! Then they hardly ever play it and it sucks. Then goes back to XBox.
    Actually I bought a netbook for my last year of school. My laptop completely blew out on me and I needed a laptop for two classes but had just recently bought a new desktop like three weeks earlier so I was a bit strapped for cash. All I needed it for was some basic c development on linux but I used the shit out of it. god dammit that thing couldn't do much more though.
    Post edited by MATATAT on
  • Hitman HartHitman Hart
    edited July 2012
    People can be fooled by the same trick over and over again. Remember netbooks. OMG, a computer for just $100! So tons of people bought them. Then they hardly ever used them and went back to using real computers and netbooks disappeared. This is basically a netconsole instead of netbook. OMG a video game console for $100! Then they hardly ever play it and it sucks. Then goes back to XBox.
    I would argue that Steve Jobs showed people his new shiny(the iPad) and people decided they wanted that instead. I can't tell you how many keyboards my store sells with iPads. It basically becomes a netbook but with worse word processing.
    Post edited by Hitman Hart on
  • ChurbaChurba
    Reddit doesn't work unless you have mods that force it to work (/r/anime), otherwise it becomes a shithole (/r/atheism).
    Well, yes and no. It's either that, or if you have a small, tight-knit community like /r/brisbane - the moderation there is very light, mostly because nobody really plays up. But then, you look at /r/Australia, a much more populous subreddit with similarly light moderation, and it's an /r/atheism-level shithole.

  • MATATATMATATAT
    edited July 2012
    Churba do you actually live in Brisbane or in the suburbs? I used to live a little outside of Albany Creek.

    EDIT: Cashmere actually. Didn't actually know the area was called Cashmere I just thought that was the name of the neighborhood we lived in.
    Post edited by MATATAT on
  • lackofcheeselackofcheese
    I'm currently in Albany Creek.
  • ChurbaChurba
    edited July 2012
    Not Central Brisbane, I'm in Salisbury nowdays, but I grew up in Mansfield. Had a few different places over time, went back to Mansfield, Moved to England for two years, and then when I came back, it was Sunnybank, and now here.

    Odd coincidence, though - My rover crew is Albany Creek Rovers, though I haven't been to many meetings lately, because it's been a pain in the arse to get the time at the right time. Unusually, I'm in two crews, but the other doesn't have a central location, but that's a different story.

    Edit - Grew up in Mansfield when I was in Brisbane, I should add. I spent about half my Growing in Brisbane, and the other half in either Maryborough and Harvey bay, depending. It's all mixed together, I pretty much grew up in both/all three.
    Post edited by Churba on
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