GeekNights Tuesday - Subterfuge

MrPeriod

Tonight on GeekNights, we discuss the mobile game Subterfuge, which we've been playing in the forum. It's like Diplomacy, and is real-time over a week or three. In other news, gomergate nonsense reminded us why we'd never attend SXSW, and Scott's been playing Sublevel Zero, a Descent-like Rougelike.

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Dazzle369

The Auditory Illusion is like using a series of synths to create a cats 'meow', but instead of synths it's multiple keyboard keys.

The more overlap you have, the more accurately it's possible to synthesize the real thing.

lackofcheese

So yeah, I'm way behind on GeekNights episodes as I haven't listened in a while, but this one I listened to this one just now, for obvious reasons

Geometrically speaking, the subterfuge "planet" is actually a torus.

lackofcheese

Oh, and another point; this one is very important:
losing a mine means you lose 20% of your Np, not 20Np.

SuperPichu

I knew you and Ro were targeting me!

Rym

SuperPichu said:

I knew you and Ro were targeting me!

Don't build mines.

SuperPichu

Rym said:

SuperPichu said:

I knew you and Ro were targeting me!

Don't build mines.

But winning though.......

Rochelle

Stupid Scott didn't take my advice. He had the chance to cripple Pichu, but would rather attack Team RymRo. It's ok. Vengeance will be had.

I definitely need to play around more with specialists. I wish there was a solitaire version of the game to play so I can figure out advanced tactics of specialists with combos and what not.

I do enjoy the conversations/back door alley deals being made. It's amusing.

SuperPichu

Rochelle said:

Stupid Scott didn't take my advice. He had the chance to cripple Pichu, but would rather attack Team RymRo. It's ok. Vengeance will be had.

Yay! Thanks Scott

lackofcheese

I'm enjoying this game immensely, on the whole.

I bought the L2 clearance a little impulsively because I wanted to schedule more orders at one point, but I really don't mind spending the $10 because I'll be happy to play this game more often.

Fortunately it doesn't take much time either, so I think it will probably enhance rather than interfere with my PAX AUS experience. I just have to make sure I don't keep it on too much in the foreground, or my battery will run out way too fast.

Rym

Certain people seemed to time things when I was at work. ;^)

Apreche

Rym said:

Certain people seemed to time things when I was at work. ;^)

I tried to time things when you were asleep.

okeefe

MrPeriod said:

• Auditory Illusions

https://twitter.com/Nullsleep/status/382578029341716480

Rochelle

Re: Scott instantly messaging to vote against Rym

https://www.twitter.com/RosakaM/status/659418755403939845

Cremlian

so sad I didn't get into this game, but it's probably for the best....

Dazzle369

okeefe said:

I can play that

Matt

This game is fucking nuts

Rym

I'll gladly play it again once this winds down.

Rochelle

Yes. I know how to not do certain things. Still need to learn more about the specialists. Need more personal time. Fuck you, work life and paying me good money!

Matt

Rym said:

I'll gladly play it again once this winds down.

I really can't see this ending in 7 days.

TheWhaleShark

Rochelle said:

Re: Scott instantly messaging to vote against Rym

This is how literally every single game with any amount of diplomacy always goes when R&S are involved.

Scott: "It's a vote who wins game. Vote not Rym."
Rym: "Why are you attacking me?! I haven't done anything! [something about some other move you could make]."
Scott: "He's lying, don't listen to him."
Rym: "I have never lied this entire game."

It's a fucking script.

Scott's primary strategy is convincing other people to fuck Rym while he generally flounders. When someone actually does what Scott suggests, he capitalizes on it.

Rym concocts a path to victory, then sows white noise and discord while being smug and also possibly drunk. This is an attempt to make his path to victory seem more clever than it really is.

It's really an elaborate mating ritual, and I look forward to one day officiating their wedding.

Rym

TheWhaleShark said:

It's really an elaborate mating ritual

See also: the tickle fights in the RIT days.

Cremlian

What Pete says is the truth...

Rym

While I never lie in those situations, I do what I will forevermore call the Aes Sedai thing.

You forgot my Horatio Nelson strategy though. That's a big part of my usual modus operandi. Sometimes the path to victory is very clever, but sometimes it is lucky and sometimes it is degenerate.

Anthony Heman

This sounds interesting... but I would want to read up on it more first.

Rym

What's interesting is that you have to make real deals, often out of desperation. After the game settled down from the beginning, a lot of real talk happened.

Naoza

For the record, I'm that person who qualified but specified to not have his name read. Mostly because I wanted to see what'd happen but upon reflection, my goal is to get more geeknights content, not to have my name read out to a bunch of people so everything is as it should be.

Rym

It's cool. I just wanted to be sure. ^_~

lackofcheese

I overextended at the start, fighting a war on two fronts.

lackofcheese

It almost worked, too. I managed to make solid territory grabs fighting both parts of team RymRo, but I made the mistake of trusting Gundabad the Betrayer who turned out to be in cahoots with them.

If not for Gundabad's sneak attack I could have consolidated...

lackofcheese

I guess part of the problem is that my terrritory grab painted a huge target on my back, even though the top of the leaderboard is not always indicative of genuine strength.