Lecturing what kind of protests we need is ineffective. You can't tell people what to be angry about.
If you want to see that kind of change, you need to start organizing a protest of your own. Talk does nothing.
First, I am participating in such demonstrations. Second, guiding and advising protesters to ve more effective happens in all effective movements. Ineffective protests waste energy and numb the masses to meaningful, pointed, and necessary protests. It is the difference between a mob and a movement.
Lecturing what kind of protests we need is ineffective. You can't tell people what to be angry about.
If you want to see that kind of change, you need to start organizing a protest of your own. Talk does nothing.
First, I am participating in such demonstrations. Second, guiding and advising protesters to ve more effective happens in all effective movements. Ineffective protests waste energy and numb the masses to meaningful, pointed, and necessary protests. It is the difference between a mob and a movement.
Thanks for the clarifications, after talking to a few friends and my brother who is currently lives in Washington, I get it (still sort of as I think you need to be part of that society to truly understand it).
Argh! Anyone who voted for the GOP thinking that they help the working class is a straight up moron. Do they forget how deregulating banking and markets ended in 1929 and 2007?!
The shooting is the bigger story, but the following is of note:
Mayor Charlie Hales (D) said Portland has experienced “great unrest” since Tuesday night. While he shared the frustration over the election of Trump, he said that changing the outcome “doesn’t involve signs anymore.” Hales encouraged residents who oppose Trump to get involved with organizations that will work to thwart controversial promises that the Republican had made on the campaign trail. Among other things, Trump has called for a ban on Muslims entering the United States and the deportation of immigrants who are here illegally.
“It is not the work of four days. That is the work of four years,” Hales said. “Going to the streets for another night is not going to keep Donald Trump from taking office.”
I agree. Protests are, indeed, cathartic, but it's hard to see what they will be able to accomplish right now. I doubt the electoral college will upend itself to give the election to Clinton.
The question remains: What positive actions can we take besides sending money to organizations? What can we do to mitigate the likely numerous and damaging pieces of legislation that will come out in the next 2-4 years?
Edit: Oh, the armed insurrection thing was angry sarcasm. Poorly timed. Not funny. Sorry.
I agree. Protests are, indeed, cathartic, but it's hard to see what they will be able to accomplish right now. I doubt the electoral college will upend itself to give the election to Clinton.
The question remains: What positive actions can we take besides sending money to organizations? What can we do to mitigate the likely numerous and damaging pieces of legislation that will come out in the next 2-4 years?
Edit: Oh, the armed insurrection thing was angry sarcasm. Poorly timed. Not funny. Sorry.
Make sure the ACLU is good and strong so it can sue the government every single time they try something and get the Democratic party to wash this country blue in 2018. Getting things in place for the 2020 census and presidential campaign is a must for liberals to have any hope.
A few random project ideas (widely varying levels of sanity/feasibility).
* A website where you can go and see all the congress people for your state and how to contact them. A button you can push to phone their office right then and there. Maybe even lists/trees of talking points to help you through the phone call.
* An uber-like app that people who are members of groups that are targets of hate violence can use to summon volunteers to walk down the street with them as safety escorts (not sure how to prevent bad people from using it to ambush volunteer escorts or similar exploits).
* A website that provides a game-theory focused dashboard of federal government positions and openings, relevant legislation that is coming up for vote, etc. with a view towards revealing optimal strategies for regaining control of congress.
* A web advertising platform which is really actually a giant social experiment that surreptitiously targets swing state voters and somehow tests the waters for sentiments about various candidates by presenting fake ads and counting clicks and other analytics. Use it to converge on the dem candidate that would be nearly guaranteed to win.
Apparently politicians take note of handwritten / physical letters more.
Maybe you could have a web app where you select the opinions of interest, the app generates a letter which you can print out and send to your local representative.
I mean the hardest part will be properly crafting the to the point paragraphs in easy to understand and neutral and logical terms for a staffer to read. However eventually it won't matter if they are inundated.
As you probably know pressuring local politicians is far easier than the higher ups who get paid to vote by lobbyists.
Totally cool with the protests that are happening. No matter what the individual marchers are thinking - that the electoral college is bullshit, that the winner is unfit to run, that America elected a fascist, etc. - there is a united message: Americans will mobilize if he acts upon his dangerous promises.
I'm terrified of the results, but I'm ready to fight like hell. The only thing on my mind right now is the 2018 mid-term election. Does anyone know of ongoing open-source projects that may help get the progressive vote out? If not specific projects, any twitter/github/medium accounts for active volunteer developers?
I'm certain that stuff will be starting up soon, given the current momentum.
Apparently politicians take note of handwritten / physical letters more.
Maybe you could have a web app where you select the opinions of interest, the app generates a letter which you can print out and send to your local representative.
I mean the hardest part will be properly crafting the to the point paragraphs in easy to understand and neutral and logical terms for a staffer to read. However eventually it won't matter if they are inundated.
As you probably know pressuring local politicians is far easier than the higher ups who get paid to vote by lobbyists.
Physical letters that are print-outs of the same letter will go into a single pile/file and will carry less weight than an individually-written letter.
If you give enough fucks to write to your representative, you out to be able to take the time to write your own damn message.
As with any complex system, we usually ignore the upstream effectors until it's too late. In some ways, even the "superdelegate" problem itself is an issue with elitism, giving too much control and power to certain individuals.
Hopefully, we can reform our process of electing presidential candidates in the future.
As with any complex system, we usually ignore the upstream effectors until it's too late. In some ways, even the "superdelegate" problem itself is an issue with elitism, giving too much control and power to certain individuals.
Hopefully, we can reform our process of electing presidential candidates in the future.
Bernie is a class act.
Hillary won the popular vote in the Primary. Superdelegates did NOT tip the scales.
Apparently politicians take note of handwritten / physical letters more.
Maybe you could have a web app where you select the opinions of interest, the app generates a letter which you can print out and send to your local representative.
I mean the hardest part will be properly crafting the to the point paragraphs in easy to understand and neutral and logical terms for a staffer to read. However eventually it won't matter if they are inundated.
As you probably know pressuring local politicians is far easier than the higher ups who get paid to vote by lobbyists.
Physical letters that are print-outs of the same letter will go into a single pile/file and will carry less weight than an individually-written letter.
If you give enough fucks to write to your representative, you out to be able to take the time to write your own damn message.
Yeah but how many people can you motivate to do this who aren't already blase about the current situation. To be clear this would be a tool for those people that are not motivated or know how to appropriately communicate with their representative.
Also physical letters are required to be read in certain localities.
Alternatively you could be comfortable with the shitty situation and assume you have no power as a citizen.
Magneto was always right, he saw what it was like growing up in the lower socio-economic classes. Professor X was always incredibly rich and privileged.
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If you want to see that kind of change, you need to start organizing a protest of your own. Talk does nothing.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/10/politics/mitt-romney-donald-trump-racism/index.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1362CT
The shooting is the bigger story, but the following is of note:
The question remains: What positive actions can we take besides sending money to organizations? What can we do to mitigate the likely numerous and damaging pieces of legislation that will come out in the next 2-4 years?
Edit: Oh, the armed insurrection thing was angry sarcasm. Poorly timed. Not funny. Sorry.
* A website where you can go and see all the congress people for your state and how to contact them. A button you can push to phone their office right then and there. Maybe even lists/trees of talking points to help you through the phone call.
* An uber-like app that people who are members of groups that are targets of hate violence can use to summon volunteers to walk down the street with them as safety escorts (not sure how to prevent bad people from using it to ambush volunteer escorts or similar exploits).
* A website that provides a game-theory focused dashboard of federal government positions and openings, relevant legislation that is coming up for vote, etc. with a view towards revealing optimal strategies for regaining control of congress.
* A web advertising platform which is really actually a giant social experiment that surreptitiously targets swing state voters and somehow tests the waters for sentiments about various candidates by presenting fake ads and counting clicks and other analytics. Use it to converge on the dem candidate that would be nearly guaranteed to win.
* Apparently boredom can cause people to develop more extreme political views (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ejsp.2205/abstract). Find a way to make right wing voters much less bored (and left wing ones more bored? Not sure...).
Maybe you could have a web app where you select the opinions of interest, the app generates a letter which you can print out and send to your local representative.
I mean the hardest part will be properly crafting the to the point paragraphs in easy to understand and neutral and logical terms for a staffer to read. However eventually it won't matter if they are inundated.
As you probably know pressuring local politicians is far easier than the higher ups who get paid to vote by lobbyists.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/197375/trump-victory-surprises-americans-four-afraid.aspx
http://www.zdnet.com/article/how-an-indian-firm-predicted-a-trump-victory-when-every-american-pollster-got-it-wrong/
I'm terrified of the results, but I'm ready to fight like hell. The only thing on my mind right now is the 2018 mid-term election. Does anyone know of ongoing open-source projects that may help get the progressive vote out? If not specific projects, any twitter/github/medium accounts for active volunteer developers?
I'm certain that stuff will be starting up soon, given the current momentum.
If you give enough fucks to write to your representative, you out to be able to take the time to write your own damn message.
As with any complex system, we usually ignore the upstream effectors until it's too late. In some ways, even the "superdelegate" problem itself is an issue with elitism, giving too much control and power to certain individuals.
Hopefully, we can reform our process of electing presidential candidates in the future.
Hillary won the popular vote in the Primary. Superdelegates did NOT tip the scales.
To be clear this would be a tool for those people that are not motivated or know how to appropriately communicate with their representative.
Also physical letters are required to be read in certain localities.
Alternatively you could be comfortable with the shitty situation and assume you have no power as a citizen.
Professor X or Magneto?