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Nazis in Germany
So I listened to an old podcast of Geeknights and somehow you started talking about how Germans don't let Nazis demonstrate on the street and that that would be a bit Nazi too. I just want to clarify this so that you guys don't get a bad impression of teh Germany.
Germany doesn't let them march up for lots of reasons:
1. When they march up they start shouting "hi Hitler" all over the place.
2. They smash cars etc.
3. There are no Nazis in Germany really, only people who belong to the Nazi party (NPD, DVP). So they start promoting a party which never should really be legal.
4. They piss on Jew monuments etc.
5. They start insulting black people or people from other countries.
But they still demonstrate. I'll tell you how. So lets say they want to demonstrate in Leipzig (which they do once a year). They go to the town hall, no. They go to court in Leipzig, no. They go to a court in the outskirts of Leipzig or Saxony where mostly Nazis kind of control everything, yes. So they march up in Leipzig....
This may make Germany look like a horrible place. But everyone who is not a Nazi hates Nazis. Most Germans think that since the Nazis did so much bad things it is their fault, the Germans. Now this makes no German want to be proud of his country.
After being off topic let me say that if this material is offensive to anyone (like in Germany) I'm sorry. Sorry for the bad grammar but I'm tiered
Germany doesn't let them march up for lots of reasons:
1. When they march up they start shouting "hi Hitler" all over the place.
2. They smash cars etc.
3. There are no Nazis in Germany really, only people who belong to the Nazi party (NPD, DVP). So they start promoting a party which never should really be legal.
4. They piss on Jew monuments etc.
5. They start insulting black people or people from other countries.
But they still demonstrate. I'll tell you how. So lets say they want to demonstrate in Leipzig (which they do once a year). They go to the town hall, no. They go to court in Leipzig, no. They go to a court in the outskirts of Leipzig or Saxony where mostly Nazis kind of control everything, yes. So they march up in Leipzig....
This may make Germany look like a horrible place. But everyone who is not a Nazi hates Nazis. Most Germans think that since the Nazis did so much bad things it is their fault, the Germans. Now this makes no German want to be proud of his country.
After being off topic let me say that if this material is offensive to anyone (like in Germany) I'm sorry. Sorry for the bad grammar but I'm tiered
Comments
1) freedom of speech. They can say "heil Hitler" wherever they want.
2) presumption of innocence. Sure arrest and prosecute anyone who actually smashes a car, but don't assume every whackjob will do it
3) I'm not quite sure what you mean here, but freedom of association I think is a sufficient response. Also isn't a member of the Nazi party by definition a Nazi, or does that word not mean what I think it means?
4) see point 2
5) see points 1 and 2.
Hate speech laws are a very tricky thing that I think should be avoided, as they make us a bit like the thing they're trying to prevent. We want to prevent people denying the holocaust, so we prevent them talking about the Nazis in a positive way. People should be free to make their stupid claims, and then when people look at the evidence they'll see the claims are stupid.
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