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Definition of "Geek"

edited February 2006 in Everything Else
How do you guys define the word "geek"? Somebody who is interested in technology, or somebody involved in certain geekeries? Or something else? I consider myself a geek, and am proud of it, but people I've met seem to have different ideas of what a geek is.

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  • I think it might share a definition in common with the Supreme Court's definition of pornography, in the "I know it when I see it" kind of way. A large amount of people went to go see LoTR, but were they all geeks? Of course not. But the guy in the elf ears on opening night? Geek. I think it's a matter of degree in some respects, or the affection for the strange in some particular genre.
  • The term geek actually comes from a sideshow act. There would be these guys in the sideshow at the circus who would bite the heads off of chickens. These guys were called geeks. No, I'm not making this up, it's true.

    The more modern usage of the term geek refers to anyone with strong feelings towards any number of hobbies or interests. You see, most people in this lame society aren't interested in anything. Or maybe they are interested, but they don't get deep into anything. They just casually watch TV, read the newspaper, go to movies, etc. but they don't go all out. You wont see them chatting on forums, listening to podcasts, or reading websites to learn every last detail about something. You wont see them making fanart or collecting memorabilia. They're not geeks.

    A geek is someone who does these things and more. Let me give an example. I like model rockets. I like to build them and launch them. I'm pretty good at it too, although I haven't done it in years. I am not a rocket geek. John Carmack however, is nuts about rocketry. He even tried for the X-Prize I think. He is a rocket geek.

    Someone who watches Cowboy Bebop on TV is not an anime geek. Someone who goes dressed as Spike Spiegel to a convention is an anime geek. Someone who plays Madden is not a video game geek. Someone who plays all the Maddens from all years and for all the systems then writes a blog comparing them all is a geek.

    Most geeks are what I call singleton geeks. They have one major geekery. Gamer geek, gearhead, airplane geek, HAM radio geek, movie buff, etc. Me and Rym consider ourselves rennaissance geeks. We know about anime, video games, technology, board games, rpgs, asian cinema, sci-fi books, Star Wars, cartoons, you name it.

    A trekkie goes off the high dive into the swimming pool that is Star Trek. We rennaissance geeks dunk our heads in many pools we come across. Non geeks barely get their feet wet in anything. I maintain that you can be considered a geek no matter what your interests are. Although what those interests are may or may not be a good thing.

    Oh, nerds are bad. Nerds are those people who know way too much useless stuff, get straight A's in school, have no social skills and are generally painful to stand within 10 yards of.
  • I've actually had discussions with my coworkers about this; many don't consider me to be a geek, because I actually possess social skills. As Scott has said, the archetypical geek generally has one geekdom, and they delve into that geekdom VERY deeply. Because geeks develop passions (really, borderline obsessions) about their interest, they tend to have difficulty communicating with people that aren't as well versed in that particular geekdom.

    Thus, when you have one very deep geekdom, it's difficult to communicate with those that don't share your interest; this is where the stereotypical socially inept geek comes from. Rym, Scott, myself, and many other people we know are "renaissance geeks," who delve fairly deeply into a wide variety of geekdoms. We might not go as deep as the singleton geek, but we have so many interests that we can communicate very effectively with a wide variety of people; hence, there is a "new wave" of geekery that involves having social skills and trying different things.

    A lot of people still only recognize the stereotypical singleton geek, but that's probably because the "renaissance geek" seems to be a fairly recent development.

    Perhaps in the interests of clear communication, we can dub those of the renaissance geek persuasion "neo-geeks." We generally shake off the old antisocial stereotypes while maintaining solid passions about our various geekeries.
  • Yes, before the Intarwebs it was difficult, nigh impossible, to be a renaissance geek. You couldn't just read one blog or listen to one podcast per geekdom to stay on top of things. You had to spend hours and hours working to get money to buy books, magazines, videos, audios and equipments of your geekdom. Then spend more hours consuming all of that. Then spend hours travelling to conventions and mettings to communicate with other similar folk. If you tried to do multiple geekdoms there goes your sleep.

    I remember in my childhood I changed between geekdoms quite often. I barely managed to keep more than one at a time. First it was video games and cartoons mostly. They both involved sitting in front of the TV so I could do both. Then came comic books and the video games took somewhat of a back seat. I remember PC gaming ousted console gaming. Computer programming ousted comic books. Anime ousted other television viewing. Tabletop gaming also ousted video gaming at some point. It was a mixed bag. Throw Magic: The Gathering and even some sports in there. It wasn't easy.

    Yeah. Nowadays it takes maybe 5 minutes per day of Internetting to stay on top of one of these geekeries. Long live the Intarweb.
  • I think these days the word Geek is used to describe anyone with more than a passing interest in anything, although it's mainly used to talk about people interested in computers and technology as we all know.

    The strange thing is that it's a word that was used to describe a minority, by people not in that minority, in an abusive way. Yet, in a special way, it has been adopted by the people in the minority as a way to describe themselves. Other rare examples are words like queer and nigger. Both are terms used to describe a minority in an abusive way, yet were taken on by that group to talk about themselves.

    Suddenly we are proud to be geeks, and there's Beauty and the Geek on TV. I wonder which group will be next. Probably the retards ;)
  • I have always looked at like this. Geeks are socialable....nerds are not. And by socialble I mean that they are capable of holding a real conversation with anyone. In my experence that is the big difference between the two. I am a geek but at the same time I am a TF/Gundam nerd.
  • I think that a Geek is awesome at stuff that requires a great amount of intelect and sucks just about anything else that does not easily and directly relate back to that, like programing and gaming. I think that it also implies that the person doesn't have a much of a life outside what the excel at, though that's often not true.
  • Kamiccolo, that's a nerd, not a geek.
  • I am the god of reviving dead threads!!!!!!!!!!!

    Geeks are or can be eclectic. Nerds, not so much.
  • I am the god of reviving dead threads!!!!!!!!!!!
    Is there a way to get that BLOCK MEMBER feature working?
  • I am the god of reviving dead threads!!!!!!!!!!!
    Is there a way to get that BLOCK MEMBER feature working?
    It only blocks their HTML and that's all it was ever meant to do, unfortunately.
  • edited January 2009
    I had my fun and now I'm done
    It is fun to get a rise out of someone but it is cheap entertainment.
    Though the looking back at the old threads was kinda cool.
    Post edited by Mr. X on
  • It is fun to get a rise out of someone but it is cheap entertainment.
    Silly foo', you got a rise out of about two people, and they were pretty lame rises at that. I think you wasted your time. :>
  • I have always looked at like this. Geeks are socialable....nerds are not. And by socialble I mean that they are capable of holding a real conversation with anyone. In my experence that is the big difference between the two. I am a geek but at the same time I am a TF/Gundam nerd.
    When I was in high school and college, I was a giant math and physics nerd. No one used the word "geek" to describe anyone else. "Geek" was still the circus term. So, it's hard for me to not think of myself as a "nerd".
  • edited January 2009
    I have always looked at like this. Geeks are socialable....nerds are not. And by socialble I mean that they are capable of holding a real conversation with anyone.
    Agreed.

    On the other hand, I don't think you can really be a "geek" for ANY subject. Actually, I'm having a hard time coming up with a subject that you can't be a "geek" about...anyone have any ideas?

    Also, I find that while I enjoy a lot of geek activities, I usually just engage at one at a time. I'll either be reading a ton of manga and neglecting other things, playing a ton of video games and nothing else (what I'm doing now), watching a lot of anime and skipping the video games...stuff like that. Between work and school I do have free time, but not enough of it that I can delve deeply into all of those things.
    Post edited by Dkong on
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