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No love on Digg (aka begging for friends on Digg)

edited February 2007 in Everything Else
So about 5 days ago I submitted this story to Digg, I personally thought it was a good read and deserved a few diggs, I didn't want front page, but I was actually looking forward to some smart comments, sadly all I got were 2 diggs, mine and some other dude.

Now I must say that there is only one person in Digg that has befriended me, seeing as I am not popular at all there I find myself here, begging for people to add me as a friend, not because I want to get my stories dugg up by friends, because I don't submit that much, but there is much talk about Digg being a social experience, and I am sorry but I am not getting that.

So please be kind, add me as a friend and help me move up the social ladder of digg, I want to sit at the popular kid's table.

digg id: DoubleZ

Comments

  • I don't see digg as a "social" website. Sure you have friends and you see what they digg, but it doesn't nearly have the social experience any good forum (like ours ^_^). Digg friends are good to see what news your friends are interested in and how they comment on them, but other than that, don't be looking for any socializing.
  • I've become anti-digg of late. I now digg everything my friends submit if only to point out how broken the system is.
  • Digg's comment system lacks even the good qualities of Slashdot's. There are no threads, so complicated discussions become impossible. You cannot quickly see your own posts from any screen, so following a discussion you're a part of is very difficult. Discussions soon fade as the stories scroll off the front page, unless they're in the top 10, in which case the comments are so overpopulated there's really no point.

    It's a much better time waster than Slashdot, since it has so many more "articles". However, most of them aren't actually articles, just quick things to burn through your free time. However, despite the large number of articles, there seems to be a preponderance of similar articles. Digg has become a haven for groupthink; post a story about an Apple product and you'll get 1,000 diggs. Of course, every Apple post gives the MS fanboys a casus belli for about 24 hours to post a rebuttal article.

    I honestly think Slashdot has (or at least had) a better social experience than Digg provides. And at least they were open-source fanboys, which is something I can get behind, not fanboys of two rich, powerful corporations who are 100% closed-source and 100% evil.
  • I lost 95% of my interest in Digg when they started screwing around with the social side of things.

    They need to be more transparent. The bury brigades are a serious problem. Alternate viewpoints are often buried as soon as they appear.

    The initial idea behind Digg was "The Wisdom of Crowds" but we ended up with was "Animal Farm"...
  • There is a whole thread listing everyone's Digg names.
  • I don't really check digg as much as I used to. I feel like there are way to many crap stories or inaccurately titled stories being dugg up. I don't really like digging through that pile of crap.
  • I don't really like digging through that pile of crap.
    Tehe...Puns.
  • Ever since they started screwing around and blaming the top diggers for the spam things went bad...

    The only people gaming Digg are the Digg staffers. Kevin Rose has a 100% success rate on his submissions.

    By keeping everything secret they retain the ability to work behind the scenes and affect story promotions and buries. They can bury what the don't like and make people think it was a bury brigade.

  • By keeping everything secret they retain the ability to work behind the scenes and affect story promotions and buries. They can bury what the don't like and make people think it was a bury brigade.
    Or because they keep everything secret, you can always blame the staff when there is a bury brigade because you have no way of knowing.
  • Ever since they started screwing around and blaming the top diggers for the spam things went bad...

    The only people gaming Digg are the Digg staffers. Kevin Rose has a 100% success rate on his submissions.

    By keeping everything secret they retain the ability to work behind the scenes and affect story promotions and buries. They can bury what the don't like and make people think it was a bury brigade.
    Maybe the reason Kevin Rose has a 100% success rate is because of the crazy number of people checking to see what he dugg and in turn digg the same thing. Can you expand on you conspiracy theories about what they gain from promoting stories on Digg? Maybe teh monies from big companies?
  • What do they gain?

    Hmm... The recent Diggnation podcast was done on a plane from Virgin Air? In exchange for a free ride on a plane and some beer Virgin gets massive free exposure to their target audience.

    Apreche - thus is the nature of keeping things secret but, Kevin Rose has admitted in the past that Digg does have moderators who remove stories from the site. Not just bury but remove. He has also admitted that staff can push a story to the home page with as little as one digg.

    If the site is supposed to be about "social" media and the "Wisdom of Crowds" this information should be transparent.
  • Why do you care? You go to Digg. There are stories there. All the major geek news is covered. There are funny videos there. Sure, it's not a perfect democracy. So what? They provide an RSS feed of useful things, and I can digg things to remember them. Other people can see what I've dugg to know what I think is valuable. The site works. What more do you want and why?

    It seems to me like the people who make these complaints about Digg or other sites with so-called democracies are the same people who whine about imbalance in MMORPGs. Guess what, Digg is not a game. There are no winners and losers. Cheating is OK. It's their site, they can do whatever the hell they want. As long as the site is still useful, I'll still use it.

    The vibe I'm getting from you is that you're still playing the game of trying to get lots of traffic to your blog. Stop caring about web traffic. Just stop it. You're better off playing an actual MMO than doing SEO. I think you're sore at Digg because you can't get your stuff on the front page and "beat the game". So what you do is whine about how Digg is crap, blah blah blah. Just stop caring about this stupid useless shit like hits and uniques and such. It's a waste of time. There are more important things in the world. What do you think is going to happen even if a story on your blog gets 5000 diggs? That story, and that story alone, will get a bunch of reading and discussing it for a few hours. You might make enough money from ads to buy a video game or two, big deal. You aren't going to suddenly become a famous Internet Tycoon with a zillion fans and a zillion dollars. Nothing exciting will happen at all. You're wasting your time worrying about perhaps the most unimportant thing in the world.

    Don't worry about how Digg works. Don't worry about traffic to your site. Just enjoy consuming, and contributing to, the vast network of near-limitless information that we have miraculously created.
  • That's not the thing that bugs me, these are:

    1) Digg began as a social 'book marking' site and then, once they added on all the news areas, they became a 'social news' site and ran from the book marking moniker. This probably came about because of all the "did you read the article or just digg it?" complaints.

    2) Digg brought out the Digg friends feature, promoted it's use, and then admitted they were using it to look for gaming of the system. IOW: they were using a tool designed to increase communication and socializing on the site and then used that tool to punish people who used it.

    3) Blocked sites. Once a site is banned from Digg it never comes back. That is stupid, why punish the rest of the users because a small minority thinks a site is spam?

    4) The Digg "game" is not about getting your own site on digg it is about climbing the ladder of top users. Getting your content on digg can be disastrous for so many reasons. Many small blogs lose their adsense accounts because google sees the big traffic jump as unnatural or a few diggers might sit there and click every ad just to get the blog to lose their adsense account. The only sites that make out financially on a digg are review sites with affiliate links.

    5) I don't expect to become a famous zillionaire, I just want enough to pay off a few debts :)
  • Blocked sites. Once a site is banned from Digg it never comes back. That is stupid, why punish the rest of the users because a small minority thinks a site is spam?
    There is already more content out there than reasonable people can consume. The Internet is a sea of information, much of which is garbage, junk, and spam.

    The users of Digg want to see the best and most interesting content. They don't want to see spam sites. The risk of missing the rare worthwhile site unfairly marked as spam and banned is WELL WORTH not having to see the rest of the spam.

    If anything, I'd be happy if Digg was even MORE ban-happy, not less. Whenever I browse the upcoming stories, I bury about 5-10 sites a minute as spam. If even a small minority of the massive Digg audience considers a site to be spam, I want nothing to do with said site.
    The Digg "game" is not about getting your own site on digg it is about climbing the ladder of top users.
    Both "games" are silly, and I support anything Digg does to mess with these people.
    IOW: they were using a tool designed to increase communication and socializing on the site and then used that tool to punish people who used it.
    No, they used it to punish morons and jackasses who were trying to game the system. ^_~ I use it for the exact same purpose. Whenever I notice an an obvious spammer, I always do a quick check to see if anyone has marked them as a friend and promptly bury their submission histories as spam. ^_^
  • DoubleZ, of all the folks on the FRC boards, I only befriend a very few on Digg. They are the people who consistently make intelligent comments. The people who gain my respect here will be added as my Digg friends, as long as they don't digg 25 stories a day. I make a point of only digging 3-4 a day.

    So I guess my point is that if you contribute to the boards and show some depth of insight/uber-coolness here, and if your articles on Digg are interesting, we'll digg you.
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