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Feisty Fawn

MagL33ToMagL33To
edited April 2007 in Technology
Well, I just downloaded and ran (from disc) Feisty Fawn 64bit ed, and I'm thoroughly impressed. There were a few things I couldn't get working (couldn't connect to my WLAN, couldn't get open office to save files, sound drivers etc.) but I'm guessing this was because I was running it from the CD, or my own incompetence.

I'm in the process of downloading the x86 version now so I can try it on a spare computer.

When I upgrade my computer, I think I'll definitely have an ubuntu partition. The only thing stopping me switching at the moment is the fact that I use my computer mostly for gaming...
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  • AprecheApreche
    Depending on what WLAN card you have, you will probably be able to get it to work by installing ndiswrapper. You can't do this while running from CD, however. Check the Ubuntu forums for threads about your particular brand and model of wireless card to see what you have to do to make it work after installing.

    You couldn't save files from OpenOffice because you were running from CD. Remember, running from CD is risk-free, and doesn't touch your hard drive, at all. If you put a thumb drive or something into the computer, you could save files to that.

    As for your sound, it should work while running from the CD. It depends on which sound card you have, and how it was configured. Ubuntu has made huge improvements in making complicated sound setups easier to configure, but it hasn't helped improve sound support. Sound suppport in Linux has always been ass, and continues to be ass. For people who have normal sound cards who just want to play stereo sound, everything should "just work". For people with more complicated setups involving recording, multiple sound cards, weird sound cards, digital sound, or surround sound, it sucks. Remember to check your mixer settings to see if the volume on the sound card is not muted.

    If you use your computer for mostly gaming, there's really no reason to use Ubuntu. Unless of course you want to start doing something that's actually productive.
  • deaf-mutedeaf-mute
    I upgraded and killed my network. My NIC was doing fun stuff; Every time I rebooted it would give different information about what I had, stuff like that. Since I couldn't be bothered fixing it (Look up Marvell/Yukon on the Ubuntu forums. Not cool), I just threw a new one in, and it's all good. I haven't had much time to use it yet, but I've noticed some really cool things :)
  • AprecheApreche
    Yeah, upgrading from one Ubuntu to the next is not the most perfect process. The update-manager is light years ahead of anything any other Linux distribution has to offer, but it still isn't perfect. Personally, I just backup /home and do clean installs of the new versions.
  • AbZAbZ
    Hey can you guys help me out, I got Ubuntu 7.04 and I tried running it off the CD and then I received this error message

    /bin/sh:can't access tty; job control off

    Is there an easy way to fix this.
  • AprecheApreche
    edited April 2007
    Hey can you guys help me out, I got Ubuntu 7.04 and I tried running it off the CD and then I received this error message

    /bin/sh:can't access tty; job control off

    Is there an easy way to fix this.
    I've never encountered that error before, so I don't know. Ask Google
    Post edited by Apreche on
  • JasonJason
    Linux names are so much fun. When is Killer Cow coming out? How about Pesky Parrot? Evil Elephant?

    I nearly peed myself listening Rym "Ubuntu" in his Barry White voice. I was listening in bed and nearly woke up the wife trying not to laugh.
  • AprecheApreche
    Linux names are so much fun. When is Killer Cow coming out? How about Pesky Parrot? Evil Elephant?

    I nearly peed myself listening Rym "Ubuntu" in his Barry White voice. I was listening in bed and nearly woke up the wife trying not to laugh.
    The next one is Gutsy Gibbon.
  • SailSail
    The next one is Gutsy Gibbon.
    I hope the next one has to do with Hippos.
  • Josh BytesJosh Bytes
    Horny Hippos. ;)
  • SailSail
    Horny Hippos. ;)
    Get your mind out of the gutter, Ebb.
  • AndrewAndrew
    Hippie Hippos
  • WallyBmanWallyBman
    Woo-hoo!!! Just installed Feisty Fawn(amd64 desktop) on my new rig. It's a socket 939 amd 64 4000+ with a gig of pc3200(until payday, when I order 3 more to go with it), and a pair of evga 7300 gt's(256 each, they are placeholders til the dx10 cards come down in price). I had win xp installed and got fed up with it, and you guys had been speaking up Ubuntu so much that I decided to try it out. Getting the full install to work with the nvidia sli setup was easier that it was getting the live cd to work with it. So I now have this rig(which is mine), and old hp running xp(which my girlfriend uses), and a 2000 model gigabit ethernet g4 that has been through hell and back(and chugs along just fine running osx 10.4.9) in the bedroom. and you know the first thing I did once i got this puppy up and running with 7.04? Cranked up a copy of Wild Zero. Oh HELLS yeah! Oh, and i'm posting here now.
  • SailSail
    LOCK N' LORR!!
  • WallyBmanWallyBman
    Yeah, this is pretty damn sweet. Between a stable and extremely easy to use distro of linux, and talisman and carcassonne both coming out for xbox live arcade, I'm sitting here in a perpetual state of geek-gasm!
  • ProfPanglossProfPangloss
    This is probably a stupid question, but what will happen to all my files if I upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04?
  • AprecheApreche
    This is probably a stupid question, but what will happen to all my files if I upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04?
    Your files in /home/yourusername will not be touched.
  • ProfPanglossProfPangloss
    This is probably a stupid question, but what will happen to all my files if I upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04?
    Your files in /home/yourusername will not be touched.
    I'm downloading it as we speak...

    Thanks!
  • WallyBmanWallyBman
    Ok, I'm SO tired of trying to get flash to work in desktop amd64. Would it be a big performance or stability hit to run the 32bit desktop version? I'm not worried about everything, seeing as I've got a basic set of backup files on my girlfriends pc, which is both on the network, and only 10 feet from me.
  • AprecheApreche
    Ok, I'm SO tired of trying to get flash to work in desktop amd64. Would it be a big performance or stability hit to run the 32bit desktop version? I'm not worried about everything, seeing as I've got a basic set of backup files on my girlfriends pc, which is both on the network, and only 10 feet from me.
    I highly recommend running the 32 bit version no matter what. The 64 bit version is just a hassle, Windows or Linux. This is part of the reason Intel is kicking AMDs butt.
  • WallyBmanWallyBman
    edited April 2007
    Well, hell... If one of the dynamic duo is gonna give me advice, I'm damn sure following it. Thanks. Now that I think about it, it's kinda funny. I'm using one version of an o.s. to download and burn a cd to install a lesser version of that o.s. Nifty.
    Post edited by Rym on
  • ProfPanglossProfPangloss
    I'm running Feisty on my AMD Athlon 64 computer. I plugged my ethernet cable into it, yet my computer doesn't recognize it. I can provide details if required.
  • AprecheApreche
    edited April 2007
    Fiesty uses a new thing to handle networking called network-manager. It's very awesome. It lets you change networks very easily, and it lets you scan for wireless networks with a GUI and all that jazz. It finally makes connecting to wireless networks easier than in Windows, as long as your wireless card works.

    For desktops, however, network manager isn't very useful. It doesn't buy you anything at all. I suspect that your problem is in network manager. The solution is probably to go into system->administration->networking, disable roaming mode on your wired ethernet card and configure it the old way.

    If this doesn't work, I don't know what the problem is. Are you actually using the 64-bit version of Feisty? You might want to try the 32-bit version. It will still work on your 64-bit machine, and it has far fewer problems.

    Use the Live CD to test. If you can get the network to work with the LiveCD, you can get it to work after the install.
    Post edited by Apreche on
  • ProfPanglossProfPangloss
    I used the "for 64 bit systems" version of Feisty, can I use a 32 bit version?
  • AprecheApreche
    I used the "for 64 bit systems" version of Feisty, can I use a 32 bit version?
    I just said you could and should.
  • ProfPanglossProfPangloss
    edited April 2007
    Okay. For some reason, turning roaming mode on fixed the problem immediately and perfectly.

    I'm assuming I can't switch to 32bit without reinstalling Ubuntu?
    Post edited by ProfPangloss on
  • WallyBmanWallyBman
    edited April 2007
    Yeah, fell asleep during the install of desktop32 on my system. But I can now say, without any hesitation, that it was worth starting over with desktop32 as opposed to sticking with desktop64 and trying to rig it to work. If anything, it seems as if the system boots up and runs a little faster now. Go figure. Maybe its just me and I'm jaded against desktop64 because it didn't work so well out of the box and desktop32 works perfectly. Well, except for about 4 lines I have to type into the terminal on the first start up of the o.s. to get my nvidia sli setup to display x... Now, does anyone have any suggestions on what software to use to sync my ipod with this thing? I know there are itunes like programs out there for linux, but are there any that work as podcatchers and mp3 libraries and ipod syncers? Itunes is pretty damn good at the job it does...
    Post edited by WallyBman on
  • ProfPanglossProfPangloss
    edited April 2007
    I can find neither head nor tail of libdvdcss in any of the repositories. Is there some other thing I can use to play commercial dvds, or a location where can I find/install libdvdcss (for xine, preferably.)
    Post edited by ProfPangloss on
  • AprecheApreche
    Okay. For some reason, turning roaming modeonfixed the problem immediately and perfectly.

    I'm assuming I can't switch to 32bit without reinstalling Ubuntu?
    Turning roaming mode on for a network device will tell network-manager to manage that device. This is why network manager is awesome. If you had it off, it wouldn't work unless you manually configured it with a static ip or enabled DHCP. Again, network-manager by default in Fiesty is the biggest obvious improvement over Edgy, and it is insanely awesome for laptops.
    Now, does anyone have any suggestions on what software to use to swync my ipod with this thing? I know there are itunes like programs out there for linux, but are there any that work as podcatchers and mp3 libraries and ipod syncers? Itunes is pretty damn good at the job it does...
    apt-get install amarok. It is a KDE application, so it won't look like your Gnome applications, but it is awesome. It is by far the best media manager on Linux. It can handle your iPod as well as podcatching. It won't do it as well as iTunes can, but it does it well enough to be usable and non-frustrating. Just don't expect to get the awesome functionality of pausing a podcast, syncing, then continuing from where you left off in the car. Also, Amarok is the only Linux media application I've found that can handle a large library of media without crashing.

    In general I dislike KDE because it is cluttered and inefficient for the way I use a computer. However, the KDE applications are some of the best around.
    I can find neither head nor tail of libdvdcss in any of the repositories. Is there some other thing I can use to play commercial dvds, or a location where can I find/install libdvdcss (for xine, preferably.)
    If you add the VLC repository, you will be able to install libdvdcss as well as VLC itself. Here are the directions.
  • ProfPanglossProfPangloss
    I added the repository, yet I still couldn't find it.

    I managed to download libdvdcss (as a .tar file), but I don't know how or where to install it.
  • AprecheApreche
    I added the repository, yet I still couldn't find it.

    I managed to download libdvdcss (as a .tar file), but I don't know how or where to install it.
    My laptop runs Fiesty. I'll get it installed and tell you how I did it.
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