I sincerely doubt that it would be interesting or that Rym or Scott have sufficient experience with fantasy sports to warrant an episode or even a special.
I always sign up for fantasy baseball, then lose interest around the beginning of the season. I'll watch any of the big 5(baseball, American football, basketball, hockey, and soccer) but right now I'm in love with soccer and wish I could see more, and better quality soccer, but unfortunately all the European soccer you can get in America is on cable.
I'm into fantasy football... I wasn't really a big football fan till I started doing fantasy. It's fun to watch games if you have any of your players playing in the game you're watching. Fantasy football actually involves a good amount of research, strategy, and luck. You don't really have to be a hardcore sportsfan to enjoy the fantasy part of it. And, in a way, I guess it is kind of like a German board game -- Madden style.
I just meant there are a lot of very specific documented rules involved and a good understanding of chance and statistics really gives you an advantage. I think my point stands.
I just got into fantasy football last year and I have to say I found it quite enjoyable. I used to watch football religiously and then got rather burned out on it. Fantasy football got me interested again for the exact reasons that Turkey mentions. The games were more fun to watch and I cared a great deal about just about each and every game. I got into it enough that I created a fairly complex spreadsheet that I could input various stats and come up with my score before the system posted them the next day. It didn't really make a difference as far as what I would do that day but it made it more interesting to watch the games and such.
As mentioned by others above, fantasy football (and probably other fantasy sports - none of which I play) involve a lot of research, strategy, and quite a bit of luck. I'm a stats geek, which means I love reading football stats so when I discovered a game that revolves around stats, I was beyond happy. Although I love football, sometimes games that don't involve my favorite team (Steelers) can be a bit boring, but fantasy football makes many games that I don't normally care for, very interesting. I even managed to convert an English friend, who knew nothing of and cared even less for the NFL, into a fantasy football enthusiast. She is now interested in watching football games just because of fantasy football. The best and worst thing about fantasy football is that luck can be a major factor at times. It may be paradoxical to say that doing a lot of research and analyzing stats can both be helpful and meaningless in the course of a season. You can look at all the stats you want and one of those crazy, implausible, unpredictable event that makes sports so fun to watch arise and wipe out all the research you did. Fantasy football is filled with great gut wrenching moments that leave a player screaming in agony, much like in a closely contested video game.
My greatest agonizing moment was when my team had a comfortable lead going into the Monday Night game, my roster has played and my opponent has the Jets QB left to play. He would need a miracle of a game to win. The Jets QB (Vinny Testaverde) was facing the top defense (at the time) and thing were going well for me in the first half. Testaverde threw two interceptions (negative points), the Jets offense was nonexistent and a win was practically guaranteed. Then in the 4th quarter a miracle happened and Testaverde threw 4 TDs, (which is still a record) and took the game into OT, where he proceeded to throw another TD. I ended up losing the game by a few points. Although it was a heartbreaking loss, it is what makes fantasy fooball (or fantasy sports) so fun. Things like that happen in just the right frequency so as to not make research meaningless but it does allow for a level of unpredictability and randomness that can be very fun.
Ohio state law now requires me to hate you(never mind the fact that I'm living in North Carolina...).
Ahh, ex-Ohio native? That's ok, I won't hold that against you, despite your feelings for me. Ohio has provided the Steelers with some of their best talents (Roethlisberger, Harrison, Lambert and Holmes). Just as long as Ohio continue to supply the Steelers with some of their best players : ).
By the way, I couldn't even see that bit in parentheses about being from North Carolina until I quoted you. Bengals or Browns fan? (As long as you're not a Ravens fan)
I was going to ask if anyone on the forums here played and this gives me my answer. I knew Scrym weren't into it based on the podcasts but is there anyone else out there?
I was going to ask if anyone on the forums here played and this gives me my answer. I knew Scrym weren't into it based on the podcasts but is there anyone else out there?
If someone starts one up, i'll join it, as long as it's free. I really don't know much about it other than the basics. You pick players for your team, and then you earn points based on how well they play in reality.
That is fantasy sports in a nutshell. I'm in 3 leagues with IRL friends and we all play for money. That's another way it ropes you in. It gets you invested in at least a small way into the games. I'd be glad to commish a league for the FRCF people if the interest is there. NFL.com offers free leagues so it will cost you nothing but a wee bit of time.
That is fantasy sports in a nutshell. I'm in 3 leagues with IRL friends and we all play for money. That's another way it ropes you in. It gets you invested in at least a small way into the games. I'd be glad to commish a league for the FRCF people if the interest is there. NFL.com offers free leagues so it will cost you nothing but a wee bit of time.
Hopefully we will perform better than we did in the stock market game.
Haha Someone has to win, just like in the real NFL. Draft magazines are so pervasive now that you could pick one up, follow the list in there and draft a decent team. The real skill is watching the waiver wire during the season and find that "one guy" for a steal. Drafts are so tight that one player can literally be the difference between a championship and crashing and burning.
Haha Someone has to win, just like in the real NFL. Draft magazines are so pervasive now that you could pick one up, follow the list in there and draft a decent team. The real skill is watching the waiver wire during the season and find that "one guy" for a steal. Drafts are so tight that one player can literally be the difference between a championship and crashing and burning.
Is there anything that makes this anything other than a complete game of chance?
Absolutely. You need to be able to evaluate potential production vs. the "cost" of the draft pick you are spending on that player. There is also player position to consider. Do you draft your 2nd Running Back before you draft a Wide Receiver? If you do, your RB position will be solid but your WR's are going to suffer. There is a lot of strategy in the draft itself.
After that, it mostly is chance but you also can "scout" other players that go undrafted and pick them up later in the year. Every single season, without exception, there is at least 1 player who comes from out of no where to play over his projected ability and identifying and grabbing him first is huge.
I could site examples where I've grabbed people "seemingly from nowhere" and proceeded to win my league because of it. There is an art to scouting. How else can you explain the dominance of the Patriots in the early 2000's or the consistent performance of the Oakland Athletics performing almost as well as the Yankees on about 1/4 the payroll of the Yankees.
Just because the skills used are not as widely known and the amount of chance involved is more than you'd like doesn't mean it's "just luck". Luck is a part but it's not flipping coins or pulling names out of a hat.
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I really enjoy playing them mainly for the trash-talk amongst the friends.
Fantasy curling is where it's at.
My greatest agonizing moment was when my team had a comfortable lead going into the Monday Night game, my roster has played and my opponent has the Jets QB left to play. He would need a miracle of a game to win. The Jets QB (Vinny Testaverde) was facing the top defense (at the time) and thing were going well for me in the first half. Testaverde threw two interceptions (negative points), the Jets offense was nonexistent and a win was practically guaranteed. Then in the 4th quarter a miracle happened and Testaverde threw 4 TDs, (which is still a record) and took the game into OT, where he proceeded to throw another TD. I ended up losing the game by a few points. Although it was a heartbreaking loss, it is what makes fantasy fooball (or fantasy sports) so fun. Things like that happen in just the right frequency so as to not make research meaningless but it does allow for a level of unpredictability and randomness that can be very fun.
By the way, I couldn't even see that bit in parentheses about being from North Carolina until I quoted you. Bengals or Browns fan? (As long as you're not a Ravens fan)
After that, it mostly is chance but you also can "scout" other players that go undrafted and pick them up later in the year. Every single season, without exception, there is at least 1 player who comes from out of no where to play over his projected ability and identifying and grabbing him first is huge.
Just because the skills used are not as widely known and the amount of chance involved is more than you'd like doesn't mean it's "just luck". Luck is a part but it's not flipping coins or pulling names out of a hat.