A cell radio and touchscreen equipped PSP would be FAR superior to a cell radio equipped DS.
Again, your argument calls for upgrading the PSP while leaving the DS as is.
Now, give the DS an SD card slot, and a decent menu for control over the system, other than the startup menu, and make it a larger single screen, and a DS-based smartphone would be on an even footing with a PSP-based smartphone.
The DS wouldn't be a DS if you made it a single screen (SS?), aside from the benefits it would lend to an OS, such as separating the menu bars, settings, and buttons, having it fold in on itself eliminates the use of covers and cases. As far as an SD card slot goes, cartridges have existed, at least since the GBA, that allow you to make use of CF/SD/micro SD flash.
An off the shelf DS has NO capability for using end-user written media. NONE. Also, it has no underlying os. I do believe that those additions would be more of a hassle for Nintendo to implement than it would be for Sony to add a touch screen and drop drivers into the os for it.
As for the single screen vs. the dual screen setup, noone, and I mean NOONE would want a smartphone with two small seperate screens as opposed one single larger screen. Viewing websites and video would be total and complete ass on one half of a pair of two small screens as opposed to one full large screen. I guess you could play video across both screens, but who wants to watch something as two halves? Plus, there is nothing saying they couldn't take the dimensions of the two screens, add it up, and make it a single touch screen that could be diveded in half with some sort of visible cue, such as a line, to allow for the dual screen style of display. That is what I meant when I said a single touch screen would be preferable for a smartphone setup.
Are you calling me a "fanboy?" And are you also saying that I haven't done any "product research?" Well, maybe your right. Wait, no. I own a DS, and own more DS games than I do PSP games. And I spend more time with my DS. But hey, I might be talking out my ass when it comes to smartphones. No, wait, I've been using smartphones since I picked up my Hitachi G1000 back in the fall of 2003. And my last phone was an Audiovox/HTC PPC-6600. Oh shits, I forgot, my current phone is an Audiovox/HTC PPC-6700. So, yeah, I guess you can say I wouldn't know a damned thing when it comes to the use of smartphones, or even what would make for ease of use when it comes to smartphones. And I've seen an implementation of Linux on the DS, I was NOT impressed. Okay, so what have we learned today?
1. I'm a person who knows at least a little something about smartphones, and has more than a little experience using them on a daily basis.
2. I'm not a fanboy, believe it or not.
3. I'm a sarcastic son of a bitch.
4. People who blindly scream "DS make good phone = YAAA!", more likely a fanboy than someone who has an informed opinion about smartphones.
You'll notice that all I pointed out was how you were misinformed about the DS with no mentions of a Nintendo branded smart phone. You don't know the capabilities of your DS and your post shows this. I wasn't refuting your argument about a phone, just your statements about the DS.
I know what the DS is capable of, and I can tell you, the existence of specialized flash memory adapters that you will never find on a shelf do not mean that it has off the shelf removable storage. And I'm telling you, as a person with experience using smarphones, if you were ot offer me a single large screen or two small screens, I would laugh at you. I'm trying to explain to you people, I use a smartphone as my only phone. It's like trying to explain to people who have never used a computer that a single keyboard is more effective than trying to hook two to a pc. And be honest, would you rather watch media split across two separated screens, or on one single large screens? Honestly? A smartphone being successful hinges on it being able to do lots of things well, not just look at the web or play games.
specialized flash memory adapters that you will never find on a shelf do not mean that it has off the shelf removable storage.
There you go again. I got a mini-SD converter at Best Buy for mine. It takes all the 2BG mini-SD cards I could need. These are cheaper than the PSP flash cards I think.
And be honest, would you rather watch media split across two separated screens, or on one single large screens?
Once again, you've obviously never used or researched the way DS plays media. The media isn't split because no one would watch that. It's only on the top screen while you browse files or control the media with the bottom screen. The PSP monitor is bigger, so is the iPhones (barely).
I'm trying to explain to you people, I use a smartphone as my only phone. It's like trying to explain to people who have never used a computer that a single keyboard is more effective than trying to hook two to a pc.
Your internet credentials mean little more than mine but since you brought it up (twice), I have a smart phone for work, and one for my personal usage. I also haven't had a land line in seven years. I even had an iPhone for a few days just to try it out. What's more, I hack my phones for fun and profit! There, now we both have internet-smart-phone-cred. Though I still haven't mentioned anything about smart phones in this thread.
wallybman, everything you're saying about the DS is biased and untrue. Even if you did know what you're posts clearly indicate that you didn't, it just proves more that your argument is slanted. My original post was simply asking when Nintendo was going to make a cell phone, not necessarily a DS cell phone. You brought up the whole "PSP would make a better phone" debate, I only continue to humor you because of your inability to compare them under equal conditions.
Palm's upcoming device will have UI running on a Linux platform but the hardware is crap compared to Windows Mobile 6 (i.e. I can play Quake on Windows Mobile already but it's not easy, it's nearly as hard as playing FPSs' on consoles).
But as voiced on the podcast, all the technology is available but no one company will put all the tech into one device.
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As for the single screen vs. the dual screen setup, noone, and I mean NOONE would want a smartphone with two small seperate screens as opposed one single larger screen. Viewing websites and video would be total and complete ass on one half of a pair of two small screens as opposed to one full large screen. I guess you could play video across both screens, but who wants to watch something as two halves? Plus, there is nothing saying they couldn't take the dimensions of the two screens, add it up, and make it a single touch screen that could be diveded in half with some sort of visible cue, such as a line, to allow for the dual screen style of display. That is what I meant when I said a single touch screen would be preferable for a smartphone setup.
The moral of this story: Fanboy's don't do product research.
1. I'm a person who knows at least a little something about smartphones, and has more than a little experience using them on a daily basis.
2. I'm not a fanboy, believe it or not.
3. I'm a sarcastic son of a bitch.
4. People who blindly scream "DS make good phone = YAAA!", more likely a fanboy than someone who has an informed opinion about smartphones.
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But as voiced on the podcast, all the technology is available but no one company will put all the tech into one device.