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Macworld thoughts

edited January 2008 in Technology
So what do people think about the Macworld keynote?

A couple of thoughts (it's still going on as I type this):
1) $20 to upgrade the ITouch when new owners get the update for free? Lame. Besides, the machine is still absurdly locked down.
2) What do you think about no optical drive on the Macbook Air? That's a big gamble, in my book. I think it would be a deal breaker for me. Sure, you can add a drive, but if you want portability and want an optical drive, that's not the way to go.
3) The AppleTV is still a dud. With no DVR for television, what's the real advantage? Get a TIVO and use it with Amazon Unbox.

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  • The laptop did not impress me enough to warrant buying it. Fujitsu, here I come. ;^)
  • Oh, holy fuck that thing is thin. Besides that, indeed nothing extreme on the wow factor, but that's because I don't care that much about Apple TV, iTunes and software updates. The time capsule, good idea, but it's nothing more than a server for backups without a wired connection. The $20 fee on updating is stupid. The rest, meh.

    But holy fuck that Macbook Air is thin.
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    I just saw a photo of the Macbook Air keyboard. It looks like some kind of chiclet thing. I'd be interested in seeing how it feels.
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    Every single one of these products exemplifies the #1 thing wrong with Apple as far as geeks are concerned. They deliver hardware capable of X, Y, and Z, but they only deliver software capable of X and some of Y.

    Time capsule. It's a wireless hard drive. So why is the software only capable of using it for backups? Why not make it a full on wireless NAS/home file server that would actually be useful and way cheaper than other NAS products on the market?

    Movie rentals. Amazingly enough, despite the DRM, this is something that I could even think about doing. Problem is that Netflix just blew them out of the water in this department. How long do you think it will take for the DRM to be cracked and rentals become purchases?

    AppleTV update. Well, the AppleTV is now actually useful instead of useless. However, our very old Mac mini is capable of doing everything the AppleTV does and more. Until plugging the AppleTV into your television is better than plugging an actual computer into your television, what's the point? They should just go back to updating the front row software and trying to get people to buy Mac minis by calling them Mac TVs.

    As for the air, it's not really all that bad. However, it is lacking key features. Battery life might seem good at the theoretical 5 hours. I get 9 hours. Oh, I also have more than one USB port, an optical drive, a fingerprint scanner, built in wired ethernet, a microphone hole, and a PCMCIA slot. They did a damn good job of getting as much into that package as they could at the size it is. However, in their quest for thin they went a little too far in carving out absolutely necessary features.
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  • I just saw a photo of the Macbook Air keyboard. It looks like some kind ofchicletthing. I'd be interested in seeing how it feels.
    It looks exactly the same as the Apple Wireless keyboard we bought for the living room. It's not bad. It also has almost exactly the same button layout as my Fujistu, except I think I have one more button.
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    I like the fact the Air allows for remote connection to CD/DVD drives on a network. Almost makes up for a CD drive. And to be honest I can't remember the last time i used a CD/DVD in my computer. All my video is downloaded (either in podcasts or from other "online sources"), and audio the same thing. No removable battery is kinda a downer, but then doesn't look to be something to be used over long periods of time. And if they pull the same sorta "$99 to replace and install a new battery" thing like they have with the ipod, its not too bad. That being said, not all that impressed. (Although DAMN that is a thin laptop.)

    Apple TV. eh. Now if they released that software for me to install on my mac mini I have hooked up to the TV, that'd be great. Heck I'd be even willing to pay $50 or so for it. Time Capsule fits in the same boat. I already have a Airport Extreme with the USB HD connection. I can use it as a NAS on my home network. Backing up to it for some reason doesn't work with time machine properly. Now I know why. They should make it so I can use that with the old hardware (they won't cause it doesn't make sense in terms of buying new stuff, but still.

    iTunes, again eh. Nothing all the unexpected. HD content? It's the normal at this point, Apple is just going with the standard. Taking on Netflix is rather gutsy, but not all that unexpected a step for them.
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    Netflix on-demand is still pretty bad. The content is improving, but it's not going to be anything like you'll get with Apple, since Apple is charging.

    I see this as a real competitor to Amazon Unbox. If you don't own a TIVO, it's easy to forget about Amazon Unbox. But trust me... Amazon has already got into the living rooms of a gazillion homes thanks to Unbox on TIVO.

    If this forces Amazon to improve its product, then I'm happy. If it squeezes Amazon out, then I'm bummed.
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    The macbook air is damn sexy but not worth the price point, if you purchase the $99 superdrive it is the same price as the macbook pro, then why not just buy the macbook pro? It would be much more appealing if, like Rym and Scott said, the fujitsu option did not exist. Although I hope they incorporate the new features (multi-touch, longer life battery, etc) into the current macbooks and macbook pros.
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    It's not up yet, but figured I'd post the link anyhow. The MacWorld Keynote Video. Should be going live later this afternoon.
    (Edit: look like Apple pulled the page.)
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  • Apple should just change their name to Proprietary. Good grief even the DVI plug is different than the standard.
    Oh, wait maybe it's Absolutely Proprietary Products Looking Elegant. I have a co-worker that's been waiting to replace his 17" MacBook, so he's thinking about the Air. He swears Apple has the best user environment available, then he drops to the command line and does 100% of his development work in Emacs.
  • I'd prefer a laptop with all the extra ports and features then bump them for the thinness. Actually, the only thing I really like about the Air is the backlit keyboard.

    The price is bad enough on the HD version, but the SSD one is outrageous IMO.
  • The more I read about the Macbook Air...

    It's 2GB of memory can not be expanded.
    No firewire port, no ethernet and only one USB port. Ouch.
    Battery can't be replaced by the end user. (How long until external batteries that plug into the AC adapter are sold?)
  • Good grief even the DVI plug is different than the standard.
    For the record, they give you an adapter that converts that plug to plain old DVI. They just do it that way because a full DVI connector is too large.
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    It also comes with the VGA and DVI adapters in the box, though composite and S-video are purchasable addons.
    Only 2GB? Is any normal user with a 1.8ghz computer going to need more, this a consumer model.
    There is also an ethernet to USB adapter available.

    That said, I am not interested. Going to up the RAM in my laptop to 4gb and then get saving on the desktop machine I want.
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  • I'm just excited they are releasing more apps for the iPod Touch. With the added apps, the device is well worth the price. It also seems like they could be releasing more apps because this is called the "January Software Upgrade."
  • I'm just excited they are releasing more apps for the iPod Touch. With the added apps, the device is well worth the price. It also seems like they could be releasing more apps because this is called the "January Software Upgrade."
    While I would very much like the iPhone to be unlocked, so the full potential could be achieved, I think I'll be getting one next year regardless. Here's why.

    When you get right down to it, even if I had a the perfect unlocked phone, what would I do with it? I would make calls, and send text messages. I would occasionally use the camera. It would be a perfect mp3 player. It would browse the web. It would be a GPS. Lastly, it would give me access to all my Google applications anywhere in the world. That's really about it. Other features would be nice, but I could live without them in my pocket. Despite being horribly locked down and proprietary, the iPhone does all these things. In fact, it is the only device that does all these things well. I fully suspect that by next year they will have the second generation iPhone, and I will probably buy it immediately if the Android phones don't put up a stiff competition.

    My #1 complaint with Apple is always that they make devices that are capable of many things, yet they choose to polish some of the features to a perfect shine, while completely sacrificing other essential features. Their products have less functionality than the competition, but the functionality they do have is ultra shiny. In most departments, such as the Macbook Air, this is a bad thing. In the phone department this is actually a good thing.

    There are phones out there right now that do a lot more than the iPhone, the Nokia N series is a good example. However, statistics show that people aren't really using those features. My LG phone has a crazy number of features, but I really only use it to make calls. Web masters are noticing that of all the mobile devices visiting their web sites, the iPhone is the majority. However, the iPhone does not have a majority market share. The reason for this is that people are actually using the browser on the iPhone, and people are not using the browsers on other mobile devices. That's right. People own devices with more capabilities than the iPhone, but they aren't really using those capabilities because they are implemented so poorly.

    In the PC space and the home appliance space, there are competitors to Apple's products that are not just more feature rich, but are also usable. The absolutely free Ubuntu Linux has more usable features than the OSX. Apple likes to make fun of PCs for copying all the features from the Mac. Well, all those features Apple just added to OSX, like dual booting and virtual desktops, are things that have been in *nix for over a decade. Who's stealing from who now?

    In the mobile space there are also competitors to Apple with more features, however those features are not actually usable. The iPhone with it's 10 very usable features beats out the other phones with 100 hackish and painful features. This will change in the years to come as others catch up, but for now that's the way of the world.
  • It's time for me to get a new phone, and I've been really struggling with what to get. What's so hard for me to come to terms with is that I'm only willing to pay $$ for phone service. As much as I'd like data, etc - unless I get an IPhone I'm not willing to pay for it. Using these features on almost any other phone is painful at best. Why pay to be miserable?

    I don't text. I don't use the camera. I just make calls. So I'm just going to get a phone that fits nicely in my pocket and makes decent calls.
  • Apple is also known to be the company that "you don't buy rev A". This was true of the iPods, PowerBooks, MacBook, iMac, etc. Apple products either fall under useful, or not useful. If its not useful (i.e. the cube, Newton, eMate) then after 1 or 2 version they stop making it. If it's useful, but maybe not as polished as it could be, they whittle down the design and slowly keep making enhancements as the market will allow (and allow them to profit from it). They take those core feature that performs extremely well and keeps adding only those features that enhance that experience. This ends up with a great product that builds upon itself over time, even if the original reviews weren't that good.

    To show this better, the iPod originally came out it was met with terrible reviews. People wanted so much more and wanted it to cost much less. Cries of "I Pod? What's a pod?" or "I can already do this with a Nomad" (remember those?), or "It's only a mac thing. PC users would never want it if was release on windows." But they slowly kept adding features and polishing it and at this point, as far as the world is concerned, MP3 player = iPod.

    So although I'm definitely not going to get a MacBook Air (nor the newer versions of MacBook Pros that are expected within the next 2 months or so), the Air is something to look at and figure out it's future potential. Is this something that will help redefine ultra portables? Or is this just another apple cube that has a niche market that won't last long?
  • I watched the keynote and thought the Air was really cool, and was tempted to purchase it... then I went into the Apple store and realized that I could possibly purchase a better laptop in the MacBook for $700 cheaper, and I guess all it lacks is the super thinness I guess. Oh, and that whole gesture thing, which was neat.
  • Kilarney, it doesn't matter for you. Don't you live in the middle of nowhere? Even if you paid for the best cellphone in the universe, the data would be slow as molasses. Smart phones are really only a consideration for people who live/work in cities.
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    This is true. Where I live, we have very slow data. The best we get on CDMA is 1x. We also have very spotty coverage, but that's another story.
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