But let's be honest, Xenoc did not get in trouble for fighting for student rights or freedoms. He got caught listening to an iPod during school. Silly rule? Maybe, but he is there to learn, not enjoy the latest Pokemon soundtrack. All I'm saying is that if you want to fight back against the "man", at least do something that is worth it. Like all the kids who protested Tooky Williams death sentence at my high school a couple years go.
I'd like to point out that it was before school had actually started
My problem is I have no problem telling people what I think of them. I hate being told what I can and can't do.
Now who does this sound like? Hmm, very familiar.
I've learned this is one of the most important lessons in life. Learning to efficively communicating and manipulating social situations can be a wonderful tool in combating the "injustices" of the world. People are weak and emotional, you must learn to use that weakness to your advantage.
Reminds me of the time Rym and I were accused of by that person of being manipulative because we are polite to everyone because it helps us get our own way. Can't think of who it was though...nopenopenope.
Regardless if it was before class, you were on campus. You knew the rules. You got caught.
The rule specifically says "Cell phones and electronic devices are not to be brought to school and will be confiscated if visible and held for parent pickup." But after school I can walk right through the main office with my head phones on and no one will say a word to me. My ipod was in my pocket where no one without x-ray vision could see it. I truly believe that this teacher had it out for me. Now he may have just told me to turn it off if I hadn't blatantly told him I would not give it to him. The point is that he made me miss the better part of my English class, and ruined my day. The fact of the matter is that before 8 and after 3 I am on my time, not the school's even if I'm on their property. What happened to me is like a state telling you that you can't have a stove in your house because it can start a house fire. This rule like this is complete and utter bullshit. Plus, to top it all off my parents want me to apologize to this teacher for being "rude" to him. I believe it is he who should be apologizing to me, for not only interrupting my education, but for trying to tell me how I need to act as a human being.
So did you have your headphones on? Did he see you with your headphones? That would lead him to believe you had an electronic device on you on school property.
You can make whatever excuse and seem like the victim. I don't feel sorry for you one bit. It's just one day without your iPod, you missing part of your class, and you having to swallow your pride and apologize. There are worse things out there. Get over it.
I am onmytime, not the school's even if I'm on their property
So if you brought a weapon or something that could be considered a weapon on school property, it's ok? You're on school property. Like I've stated before. What you consider as a "right" doesn't mean shit.
Also, with my solution, the teachers would have enough of checking for iPods so quickly that people would start getting away with having the iPod there :P
Well, maybe you shouldn't be slinging around the legal citations then. Shepardizing a case means looking through the Shepard's books or an online service like Lexis or Westlaw to see whether your case is still good law.
Oh, then yes, I did do that. I did not know it was called Shepardizing. You don't have to be such a bastard.
I've thought about this and I can't imagine any way that you could have Shepardized those cases without knowing the term "Shepardize". The books have big "Shepard's Legal Citations" titles and the online services all have "Shepard's" tabs. Admit it and we'll be done. You were just shit-talking. A minor shit-talking, but shit-talking nonetheless.
Failure to use Shepard's is one of the reasons I don't like the jail law libraries they let prisoners use. Don't get me wrong - I think the prisoners should have access to law libraries, but there should be someone there to teach them how to use Shepard's. Otherwise you'll get guys telling you they found a case that says a wife cannot testify against her husband, or that possession of marijuana is not a crime unless you're caught possessing a firearm in addition to the marijuana, or some other such silliness. That's bad enough, but when you try to explain that the law has changed since those cases were good, they get all paranoid and say you're wrong and that you're not helping them. I had this one guy cite me a case from 1882 that he thought was relevant.
I had this one guy cite me a case from 1882 that he thought was relevant.
When you're in prison, you'll be desperate to find anything that might even have a tiny chance of getting you out. Even if Shepard's was there, they would still grab for any straw, no matter how tiny.
When you're in prison, you'll be desperate to find anything that might even have a tiny chance of getting you out. Even if Shepard's was there, they would still grab for any straw, no matter how tiny.
True. However, when you tell them that their straw is not going to help them they get all mad at you, yell at you, call you names throw things at you, spit at you, tell the judge that you're stupid, and so forth. I've sat with them and said, "Okay, I understand why you'd like for things to be such and such a way. Sadly, things aren't like that. Here's a case or a statute or a regulation or a rule showing you where you're wrong. Please read it." A lot of the time they simply refuse to read it or think about it because they're too busy spitting at you.
It's kind of like the people in the other threads who just won't accept that they're wrong about the Bible. The difference is that the Bible guys are relatively normal people you communicate with by means of a computer while you communicate with the jail guys while sitting in a locked room with them in the jail.
The difference is that the Bible guys are relatively normal people you communicate with by means of a computer while you communicate with the jail guys while sitting in a locked room with them in the jail.
Pheonix Wright gets a glass window to protect him. Do they not have that anymore?
Pheonix Wright gets a glass window to protect him. Do they not have that anymore?
There was one jail that I went to that had a glass window. All of the others just had little rooms where the guards locked you up with your defendant. They were supposed to come get you when you were finished, but it usually took a loooooong time. I got to where I'd start knocking on the door to get out about ten minutes before we were really done so that I wouldn't have to wait with the guy for so long with nothing to say.
There was one jail that I went to that had a glass window. All of the others just had little rooms where the guards locked you up with your defendant. They were supposed to come get you when you were finished, but it usually took a loooooong time. I got to where I'd start knocking on the door to get out about ten minutes before we were really done so that I wouldn't have to wait with the guy for so long with nothing to say.
Wow. Not only does Phoenix Wright have the glass window, there's also a camera watching everything. In addition to that, there's a guard on the prisoner's side of the glass standing on the inside of the door at all times. I sort of assumed that was standard. For all the money we spend on these stupid prisons you would think they would at least be good at doing what they do.
I met with defendants in the Daviess County Jail, the Daviess County Juvenile Detention Center, the Jefferson County Jail, the Jefferson County Juvenile Detention Center, the Bullitt County Jail, the Meade County Jail, the Hardin County Jail, the Clay County jail, the Nelson County Jail, the Jessamine County jail, the Kentucky Correctional Institution for Woman and the Kentucky State Penitentiary. The only one with glass walls in the attorney rooms was the Jefferson County jail. Even there, the guard would just shove the guy into his side of the room and leave. The glass actually made it pretty difficult because even though they had little mail slip thingees for documents, they were always blocked up, and those phone thingees never worked right so it was often hard to hear whatever bullshit your guy wanted to say to you. At least you didn't have to wait for the guard to let you out.
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parent pickup." But after school I can walk right through the main office with my head phones on and no one will say a word to me. My ipod was in my pocket where no one without x-ray vision could see it. I truly believe that this teacher had it out for me. Now he may have just told me to turn it off if I hadn't blatantly told him I would not give it to him. The point is that he made me miss the better part of my English class, and ruined my day. The fact of the matter is that before 8 and after 3 I am on my time, not the school's even if I'm on their property. What happened to me is like a state telling you that you can't have a stove in your house because it can start a house fire. This rule like this is complete and utter bullshit. Plus, to top it all off my parents want me to apologize to this teacher for being "rude" to him. I believe it is he who should be apologizing to me, for not only interrupting my education, but for trying to tell me how I need to act as a human being.
You can make whatever excuse and seem like the victim. I don't feel sorry for you one bit. It's just one day without your iPod, you missing part of your class, and you having to swallow your pride and apologize. There are worse things out there. Get over it. So if you brought a weapon or something that could be considered a weapon on school property, it's ok? You're on school property. Like I've stated before. What you consider as a "right" doesn't mean shit.
Failure to use Shepard's is one of the reasons I don't like the jail law libraries they let prisoners use. Don't get me wrong - I think the prisoners should have access to law libraries, but there should be someone there to teach them how to use Shepard's. Otherwise you'll get guys telling you they found a case that says a wife cannot testify against her husband, or that possession of marijuana is not a crime unless you're caught possessing a firearm in addition to the marijuana, or some other such silliness. That's bad enough, but when you try to explain that the law has changed since those cases were good, they get all paranoid and say you're wrong and that you're not helping them. I had this one guy cite me a case from 1882 that he thought was relevant.
It's kind of like the people in the other threads who just won't accept that they're wrong about the Bible. The difference is that the Bible guys are relatively normal people you communicate with by means of a computer while you communicate with the jail guys while sitting in a locked room with them in the jail.