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GeekNights 080331 - Programming Languages

RymRym
edited March 2008 in Everything Else
Tonight on GeekNights, we continue our IT/CS series with. In the news, Motorola is in some trouble, and an eleven-year-old punks his school (for good, not evil).

Scott's Thing - Design Coding
Rym's Thing - Outside In

Comments

  • Victor FrostVictor Frost
    Wow, that outside in video is really trippy at times, but it makes its point well.
  • AnubisAnubis
    Motorola did indeed make excellent items back in the day. eg. phones and modems. I had a phone that was just plain not breakable, it was dropped many times, fell into mud and water and always worked. Bought a new phone dropped it once it fell apart. I also had a motorola digital box for four years no problem. Rented a new digital box/DVR a year ago, I have gone through five boxes.
    Two co-workers have gone through two DVR/digital boxes each in the past year. Their products are starting to look bad, a true shame they were an excellent product.
  • ......
    Ah, Outside In, such a great vid. And the rapper in Scott's TotD is speaking truth.
  • JasonJason
    I voted no, Outside In is not awesome. Here is why: One too many gimmes. By making one of the rules that sides can pass through each other, you're basically making a rule that says, "We're going to break a fundamental rule of physics to make this possible." It's like asking whether we can make a car that goes 10,000 miles per hour, and then saying, "Yes -- as long as we suspend all the rules of aerodynamics."

    Of course, I hate math, so take it with a grain of salt.
  • RymRym
    One too many gimmes. By making one of the rules that sides can pass through each other, you're basically making a rule that says, "We're going to break a fundamental rule of physics to make this possible."
    That's because it's not a physics problem: it's a math one. That set of rules is common and, for math purposes, incredibly useful. It's no more arbitrary than stating that parallel lines can never cross, or by defining what a "regular" polyhedron entails.
  • merry_minstrelmerry_minstrel
    I wonder what the practical application of the outside in thing is. Mathematicians are not as ivory-tower as one usually thinks, so I wonder where that came from.
  • RymRym
    Mathematicians are not as ivory-tower as one usually thinks, so I wonder where that came from.
    Part of it has to do with describing complex three-dimensional surfaces and/or proving them similar or functionally equivalent.
  • chaosof99chaosof99
    edited April 2008
    "A globetrotter always saves the good math for the final minutes."

    I really liked the Outside in video, and I despise math on a regular basis.
    Post edited by chaosof99 on
  • lackofcheeselackofcheese
    I'm with the awesome croud, but I also rather like maths anyways.
    One of the things I aim to do is fully understand the proof of Fermat's Last Theorem, for example, and there's absolutely no good reason for it ;)
  • imptacimptac
    I'm with the awesome croud, but I also rather like maths anyways.
    One of the things I aim to do is fully understand the proof of Fermat's Last Theorem, for example, and there's absolutely no good reason for it ;)
    Unless you want a deepr understanding of elliptical curves. ;)
  • DiagorasDiagoras
    Rym's Thing -Outside In
    The organization that made this, the Geometry Center at the University of Minnesota, is now defunct, but their website is still up, and their software is still in use.
  • a1sa1s
    I was wondering why you didn't find it necessary to talk about PASCAL.
    I don't know if it's just a europe thing, but it's considered to be of the 5 most important languages here.

    and yes, OsI is awesome.
  • spotdartspotdart
    edited April 2008
    Anytime a value in mathematics gets a name like "the turning number" it seems like the person who discovered it had a ridiculous name.
    Post edited by spotdart on
  • tranceotakutranceotaku
    It was difficult to grasp at first, but in time I understood the concept. I must say that it was incredibly awesome, especially since it could be explained purely in a mathematical sense as well as in layman's terms.
  • mrrobbobmrrobbob
    My brain hurts.
  • kristopher_m7kristopher_m7
    That has to be the trippiest, most educational thing I've ever seen.
  • sucrilhossucrilhos
    Well the sphere business feels like one of those wooden puzzles you take forever to figure out. Like the final bit of transferring one of the towers of Hanoi.
  • jmermjmerm
    I've been going through the archives lately, and thought that someone should call Rym out on his comments about Motorola. Specifically
    I don't think I'll ever see a Motorola cellphone in my hands again.
    Do you still feel this way?
  • RymRym
    Do you still feel this way?
    I haven't owned a Motorola since that one, and have no plans to in the near future.
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