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Using an NTFS partition for a linux user directory.

Victor FrostVictor Frost
edited July 2008 in Technology
It all started late last night...

I use windows XP on my laptop and while I was downloading some Videos from Revision 3 over bittorrent, uTorrent told me it had experienced a cyclic redundancy check error and that there was now something wrong with its listening port. I check my network configuration and the only thing different since the last time I used bittorrent was that I had installed
VMware workstation and it had added a few networking adapters. So I went to uninstall it but while it was uninstalling my system went into a total freeze. No mouse movement, not nothing. So I did a hard shutdown and rebooted into safe mode. I logged in as administrator and did a system restore which took FOREVER despite me only installing VMWare earlier that evening.

When windows began booting, I got the BSOD with the error "UNMOUNTABLE_BOOT_VOLUME". My heart jumped. I rebooted: Same Error.

I ran over to my workbench (I do pc repair) and grabbed my copy of Spinrite and popped it in. It's been running on level 2 (find and recover data) all night and still going! I'm seeing 750705 seek errors. Here is the rest of my SMART info

ECC Corrected: 94/94 Raw:0000000000000
Relocated sect: 60/64 Raw:00000000000B5
Seek errors: 54/54 RAW:000001115EB8BD
Uncorrectable: RAW:0000000000005

Dynastat Recovery: 1
Uncorrectable Sectors:173

Should I stop now and try to get as much of my data off as I can, then continue or wait for Spinrite to finish (question mark). I'm using an old p2 tower with a keyboard thats kinda broken. Sorry.
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  • OmnutiaOmnutia
    Let Spinrite finish then copy everything off as it'll recover as much of the data as possible for you to copy off.
  • ......
    I'd say recover the important stuff, and perhaps the building blocks of your setup (I tended to save working, clean .exe's or rar's with the programs I always used). On a side note, wasn't S.M.A.R.T. a horrible thing?
  • AprecheApreche
    If you don't have a spare disk to backup to, backup to a Jungledisk. It's not free, but its way cheaper, and way safer, than a hard drive.
  • Victor FrostVictor Frost
    edited July 2008
    Let Spinrite finish then copy everything off as it'll recover as much of the data as possible for you to copy off.
    Yeah, but I'm worried about undue pressure on the drive.
    If you don't have a spare disk to backup to, backup to aJungledisk. It's not free, but its way cheaper, and way safer, than a hard drive.
    I already have a spare 80gb laptop drive and an enclosure I can use. Besides, I don't have enough money to pay for amazons S3 service.

    My predicament is that the Time Remaining counter keeps going up.
    Post edited by Victor Frost on
  • OmnutiaOmnutia
    I'm thinking of upping my security and using jungledisk for all my important stuff (business/school docs, photos, etc..) and using my new server for backing up my large stuff.
  • AprecheApreche
    I already have a spare 80gb laptop drive and an enclosure I can use. Besides, I don't have enough money to pay for amazons S3 service.
    Jungledisk regular edition cost me $20, a one-time fee. My Amazon S3 bill last month was something like one dollar and eleven cents. Even an elementary school kid can afford it with leftover lunch money.
  • OmnutiaOmnutia
    edited July 2008
    How much are you storing? I'm also worried about upload time for my mp3 collection, it's 16gb FYI.
    Post edited by Omnutia on
  • HMTKSteveHMTKSteve
    How much space do you need to store your data on?
  • AprecheApreche
    How much are you storing? I'm also worried about upload time for my mp3 collection, it's 16gb FYI.
    Don't put your mp3 collection on there. That's crazy. I just backup things that are not replaceable, like the forum database and such.
  • lackofcheeselackofcheese
    edited July 2008
    If you don't have a spare disk to backup to, backup to aJungledisk. It's not free, but its way cheaper
    No.
    , and way safer, than a hard drive.
    Yes.
    Post edited by lackofcheese on
  • AprecheApreche
    No.
    How is it not cheaper?
  • lackofcheeselackofcheese
    edited July 2008
    Well, in cents/GB, it most certainly is not, especially since the fee is monthly, whereas for a hard drive it is the lifetime of the hard drive.
    Example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136178
    That comes to 15c/GB, funnily enough.

    If it was, say, 10GB you needed to backup, for a year of storage that's $20 for Jungledisk + $1.00 upload + $18 storage = $39; as compared to 160GB HDDs at the same price (though they are poor value; 320GB HDDs for ~$60 are a better deal.).
    So, to say "way cheaper" is nothing short of misleading; It would only be cheaper if you were storing less than 10GB for less than a year or so (but even then the qualifier of "way" is wholly inappropriate"), and with that kind of amount, you wouldn't need to buy an entirely new hard drive just to back it up (finding such a small amount of space on another hard drive would be easy, or you could even just fit that kind of small amount on DVDs).

    I'm not saying this makes the service useless (some of its advantages are great), merely that isn't as cheap as you claim.
    Post edited by lackofcheese on
  • OmnutiaOmnutia
    The main thing Jungle disc has going for it, as far as I see it, is that if your house gets raided, you can encrypt your local drive and still have the backup.
  • Victor FrostVictor Frost
    I just got back after being out of the house for 5 hours. Its still on 67% and the seek error count has risen to over 1.3 Million and over 114 thousand uncorrectable sectors. Theres only 57 out of 64 relocation sectors left. I think its time for me to cut my losses and get whatever I can out of there.
  • HMTKSteveHMTKSteve
    Can jungledisk be setup as a backup medium for a web server? On my more active sites I do nightly backups and I would love to use it to transfer my backups on an nightly basis.
  • AprecheApreche
    Can jungledisk be setup as a backup medium for a web server? On my more active sites I do nightly backups and I would love to use it to transfer my backups on an nightly basis.
    Easily.
  • ninjarabbininjarabbi
    edited July 2008
    especially since the fee is monthly
    No monthly subscription fee, no commitment
    Post edited by ninjarabbi on
  • kiwi_birdkiwi_bird
    especially since the fee is monthly
    No monthly subscription fee, no commitment
    I think you have to pay a certain amount of money per month depending on how much you up-/download. So it isn't a subscription fee, but still.
  • AprecheApreche
    I think you have to pay a certain amount of money per month depending on how much you up-/download. So it isn't a subscription fee, but still.
    JungleDisk is $20, period. However, you still have to pay for Amazon S3, which costs a few pennies, depending on how much you use it.
  • lackofcheeselackofcheese
    Yes, my point was that you are paying for Amazon S3, and because that is monthly, an amount like 10GB doesn't work out to be all that cheap to keep.
  • AprecheApreche
    Yes, my point was that you are paying for Amazon S3, and because that is monthly, an amount like 10GB doesn't work out to be all that cheap to keep.
    Considering that it's %100 safe, it is pretty cheap. You can't just compare the price to the price of having a single hard drive, since a single hard drive isn't safe. You have to compare it to the price of having a 10 gigabyte SAN with automated and frequent tape backups. You're paying for the SLA, not for the storage.

    Also, they charge not only based on what you keep, but based on what you upload. Here are the prices for S3. Let's say you start by uploading 10G. Ok, that means the bill for your first month will be $2.50. If you don't upload or download anything, the bill just for keeping those 10G safe is $1.50 per month. And, of course, there's also the $20 one-time fee for the JungleDisk application.
  • lackofcheeselackofcheese
    edited July 2008
    I've already discussed the overall pricing adequately ($39 in total for the first year if you use it for 10GB).
    I am willing to agree that you can't exactly make a direct comparison, but the problem is that that is exactly what you did initially when you said "way cheaper".
    It's not free, but its way cheaper, and way safer, than a hard drive.
    Post edited by lackofcheese on
  • OmnutiaOmnutia
    edited July 2008
    I think I'll get the S3 sometime soon, just in case the gypsies come for my stuff. Also, with Jungledisk, can you access your data anywhere? Is there a fee for downloading or just uploading?
    Post edited by Omnutia on
  • lackofcheeselackofcheese
    I think I'll get the S3 sometime soon, just in case thegypsiescome for my stuff. Also, with Jungledisk, can you access your data anywhere? Is there a fee for downloading or just uploading?
    Did you read the pricing page properly?
    Data Transfer
    $0.10 per GB of data uploaded
    $0.17 per GB of data downloaded
    Install on as many machines as you want with a single S3 account
  • OmnutiaOmnutia
    I was planning to but if you insist on telling me the answer I suppose I won't have to.
  • Victor FrostVictor Frost
    Well, I ended up using an Ubuntu Live CD to copy most of my documents onto an external drive. I only lost a few things, namely my M-Flo discography, but the important stuff was salvaged (my Bee-Gees discography. Heh Just kidding). I swapped out the drive with the spare 80gb I had and now I'm reinstalling my apps. After I'm done I'm going to make an image and keep it someplace.
  • AprecheApreche
    my Bee-Gees discography. Heh Just kidding
    What are you talking about? The Bee-Gees are awesome. I'm not being sarcastic either. Meanwhile, I've never even heard of M-Flo.
  • Victor FrostVictor Frost
    Oh, I know the Bee-Gees are awesome. I was just saying they aren't as important as, say, my Microsoft Money files. M-Flo is, in my opinion, a good Jrap/remix group. My favorite album is Planet Shining, but that's not to say it's their best. Watch out for the first track though. Its worth listening to, but it gets kinda hairy because it relies on a balance knob to separate the Japanese from the English voice guides. English on the left, Japanese on the right.
    M-flo - Planet Shining
  • AprecheApreche
    I was just saying they aren't as important as, say, my Microsoft Money files.
    Microsoft Money? You needs some Gnucash!
  • Victor FrostVictor Frost
    edited July 2008
    Meh, I'll try it. I'm gonna have to make new bank accounts when I move to California anyway. Stupid Bank of America, why can't just use one computer system!
    Post edited by Victor Frost on
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