Zombie Panic

Andrew

This game is hella fun. It's a mod for HL2. Anyone else try it out? I think we need to get some FRC action of that going.

Walker

Sounds good to me. I tried the mod a while ago, and it is good fun. Some FRC action would certainly make it more so.

Neito

I have the HL1 version, as my computer cannot run HL2.

Apreche

I played it awhile back. It was ok, but not amazing. Why bother with these other games while I can still play NS?

CHOIS CHOIS CHOIS

I keep trying to get it to work, but it always involves a hard reset of my computer.

Skyshiro

Dude if you love this mod you gotta try out Zombie Master. Personally I think its uber kool. Most servers have this RPG add on (+1 health, +1 speed etc.) to it that make it even better.

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I'm another one in the tried it before camp. It's a nice mod, but I had a few gripes with it. One, the zombies are slow, two, there are too few of them, three, I found it be rather boring when I was zombified, four, the survivors can very easily win by just barricading themselves in. I personally prefer Zombie Master over Zombie Panic, seeing as it has a lot more zombies of various kinds with different 'skills'. The downside is, if you die, you're dead, and you have to wait till every survivor is dead, or till the survivors win. And it has a few more problems with hit boxes, but I personally prefer it.

EDIT: Darn, ninja'd. I agree, that add-on allows for some fun, but it quickly grows out of hand and results in the game being somewhat unbalanced in favour of the Survivors. 250+HP, regenerating 5hp/3seconds, regen 10 ammo/8seconds, and running at 225.0 base speed. Glitching with the geometry also becomes a problem at that point.

lackofcheese

Hey, yeah, I also like Zombie Master, though I haven't played Zombie Panic. Who would've known that other people here had even played Zombie Master? Also, I disapprove of RPG-mod addons to it and the like.
Seriously, though, Zombie Master is a game with SHITLOADS of untapped potential. The essential gameplay mechanic is plain awesome (One player playing with Zombies in an RTS style vs an entire team of survivors = idea of epic win), but the greatest limiting factor is map design. Designing good objectives, and balancing the Zombie Master against the survivors, is extremely difficult, and you very rarely see it done well. Most of the time, the Zombie Master has to cut the survivors a bit of a slack for an entertaining game. The minor bugs are also an annoyance.

Apreche

Also, I disapprove of RPG-mod addons to it and the like.

I also disapprove of these sorts of server modifications. If you want that sort of thing, just play WoW. Putting that on an FPS just ruins the game.

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Seriously, though, Zombie Master is a game with SHITLOADS of untapped potential. The essential gameplay mechanic is plain awesome (One player playing with Zombies in an RTS style vs an entire team of survivors = idea of epic win), but the greatest limiting factor is map design. Designing good objectives, and balancing the Zombie Master against the survivors, is extremely difficult, and you very rarely see it done well. Most of the time, the Zombie Master has to cut the survivors a bit of a slack for an entertaining game. The minor bugs are also an annoyance.

Yes, the most popular map I've seen is RedQueen. And that's a horrible map in my opinion. As for the minor bugs, eh, it makes perfect sense for the Hulk to have his brains in his balls.

lackofcheese

Yes, the most popular map I've seen is RedQueen. And that's a horrible map in my opinion.

I agree entirely.

As for the minor bugs, eh,it makes perfect sense for the Hulk to have his brains in his balls.

But it does make perfect sense =D
Actually, Zombie Master is a game some people on these forums could play without being in different countries being too much of a problem; High ping is reasonably tolerable in ZM.

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Yes, the most popular map I've seen is RedQueen. And that's a horrible map in my opinion.

I agree entirely.

Thankfully there's also the map Gasdump, which is awesome. HURRICANE AAAAAARGH! Why did you carry a bomb into that thing?! Now we can't win. God I love that map.

I'm going to log into Windows. I feel like playing some Zombie Master now.

lackofcheese

Yes, the most popular map I've seen is RedQueen. And that's a horrible map in my opinion.

I agree entirely.

Thankfully there's also the map Gasdump, which is awesome. HURRICANE AAAAAARGH! Why did you carry a bomb into that thing?! Now we can't win. God I love that map.

I'm going to log into Windows. I feel like playing some Zombie Master now.

It's 2am here, but I kinda wouldn't mind playing =D
Official FRC Forums ZM play would be awesome. If we got a server up, it would be uber epic win because we would only play good maps, hopefully with good players.

Rym

I also disapprove of these sorts of server modifications.

I disapprove of anything that makes a game of skill stateful beyond the context of a single game unit.

Victor Frost

Forgive me, but could you explain that please. I dont quite understand.

lackofcheese

"stateful" = previous results affect the current in-game situation.
"single game unit" = in most fps, a single map.
A single round often doesn't quite count; e.g. in CS rounds are not entirely independent from one another due to money.

So in other words, what Rym disapproves of is, for example, the events of the previous map affecting the in-game situation within the current one
(i.e. in CS you get a magic spell(wtf??) in de_dust2 and you get to keep that magic spell when the server switches to de_aztec)

Victor Frost

Well, I don't play CS, but I understand what you mean. Thats basically what happens in the game GUNZ.

Mosquitoboy

Well, I don't play CS, but I understand what you mean. Thats basically what happens in the game GUNZ.

Also Gunz skill is all about being able to used bugs in the game to your advantage, not actually playing the game the way it was intended. That kind of bugs me.

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It's 2am here, but I kinda wouldn't mind playing =D
Official FRC Forums ZM play would be awesome. If we got a server up, it would be uber epic win because we would only play good maps, hopefully with good players.

Of course, just your username. But yes, it would be awesome to play on a non-upgrade infested good-map only server. Also, ever played the Mario Land map? It's awesome.

Kaptain K

The game desperately needs a time limit of some type, every round eventually turns against the survivors greatly who hole up/hide and it takes a million goddamn years for your next chance to be a survivor.

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The game desperately needs a time limit of some type, every round eventually turns against the survivors greatly who hole up/hide and it takes a million goddamn years for your next chance to be a survivor.

Yup. Last night I was playing a game with lackofcheese, the server finally filled up and became awesome. So I was the last mental patient still alive (we played the Asylum map) and since I never played the map before that day I did not know what to do. So I dropped my empty rifle, dropped my empty pistol, got my crowbar, ran towards the shamblers, took a swing and they all died.

Yes, I am that awesome. Then people complained a bit because they wanted to spawn, so I said fuck you ZM got a MAC, and unloaded it on an explosive barrel... Only to be the one person who was dead seeing as the ZM timed resurrecting other players just as I blew up myself so a new round could start. The bastard. But I know why he did it. You see, these other survivors had died before, they were infected, if they know it or not. The ZM thus let a few escape as to get his plague outside of the asylum and TAKE OVER THE WORLD!

Skyshiro

Thankfully there's also the map Gasdump, which is awesome. HURRICANE AAAAAARGH! Why did you carry a bomb into that thing?! Now we can't win. God I love that map.

I'm going to log into Windows. I feel like playing some Zombie Master now.

Dude, GASDUMP FOR THE FUCKIN WIN!!!!
I was ZM there and saved up all my money and unleashed hurricane after hurricane there, then camped the C4 with banshees and hulks...
Good times, good times.