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I hate so much (or: The terrorists won.)

edited October 2008 in Everything Else
Kid writes zombie story, gets arrested on felony charges.

"'My story is based on fiction,' said Poole, who faces a second-degree felony terrorist threatening charge. 'It's a fake story. I made it up. I've been working on one of my short stories, (and) the short story they found was about zombies. Yes, it did say a high school. It was about a high school over ran by zombies.'

"Even so, police say the nature of the story makes it a felony. 'Anytime you make any threat or possess matter involving a school or function it's a felony in the state of Kentucky,' said Winchester Police detective Steven Caudill."

edit: I guess the title is misleading, as this is probably more Columbine-related than 9/11-related. Still, the climate of fear in this country has done so much to limit freedom it's ridiculous.
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  • America! What the fuck?
  • See? They try to keep the zombie outbreak a secret. BUT WE KNOW THE TRUTH.

    Seriously though, why?
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    Seriously though, why?
    School administrators are timid and reactionary, cops are stupid and lazy, and prosecutors are vindictive, mean, and politically motivated.

    I know the state in question very well. That's why I left.
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    Personally, I would like to shake the hands of the grandparents for turning that story in. See, I understand what they were trying to do. They thought there was valuable training material in that story, and that the police might not have any training on zombie defense. Those geezers should be given a medal.
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    Bonta, welcome to the forums. Please spell properly, capitalize where necessary and use correct grammar. An easy way to do this is to read your words back to yourself before posting.

    In response to the thread: You only just noticed we are no longer living in a free or rational world, congratulations for doing something about it.
    Post edited by Omnutia on
  • The felony charge is ridiculous. However:
    "It didn't mention nobody who lives in Clark County, didn't mention (George Rogers Clark High School), didn't mention no principal or cops, nothing,"
    That's some fine learnin' right there.
  • I know the state in question very well. That's why I left.
    QFT. And seconded.
  • I'm leaning towards linkbaiting until I get some other independent sources.
  • Even if this is linkbaiting, I can totally see this happening. And I think the title of this thread is very descriptive and sums it up very well.
  • Wait, that title doesn't even make sense, "I hate this so much.." is what you meant.
  • No, "The Terrorists Won" makes perfect sense.
  • I can totally see this happening.
    So can I, but I'd rather remain skeptical pending further evidence.
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    No, "The Terrorists Won" makes perfect sense.
    But the rest of the sentence as a whole makes none.

    I would also like to add that, science is no longer any fun due to this kind of thing.

    Interesting fact, the place this happened in was called Winchester.
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    There were no Zombies in the story apparently.
    I hear it was a story, but it wasn't as tame as this news article is leading you to believe.
    I don't think I support locking him up, but a psych evaluation would be in order. Detain him for that if you believe he is really a threat to people... but charging him is kind of crazy.
    Post edited by Mosquitoboy on
  • Wow, I had a four day long discussion about Zombies at Jesus camp, and the most that happened was people kept asking us why we talked about zombies so much. Jesus Camp > Kentucky High School?

    I guess so.
  • Wow, I had a four day long discussion about Zombies at Jesus camp, and the most that happened was people kept asking us why we talked about zombies so much. Jesus Camp > Kentucky High School?
    ...Jesus camp?

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    Wow, I had a four day long discussion about Zombies at Jesus camp, and the most that happened was people kept asking us why we talked about zombies so much. Jesus Camp > Kentucky High School?
    ...Jesus camp?



    ...I know now what I must do.
    Post edited by Victor Frost on
  • ...Jesus camp?
    Yeah. Every summer I go downstate to a Methodist church camp. It's not crazy- there's 15 minutes of chapel in the morning (tolerable, since the outdoor chapel is stunningly beautiful) an hour bible study during the day (tolerable because it often involves getting off topic and having conversations about college parties) and an hour and a half of chapel at night (tolerable due to the kickass rock band they have). Otherwise it's all just kickass summer camp stuff. When I was little I used to feel guilty because I went, and I didn't feel God like everyone else, and now I just go because despite the churchyness and my rampant atheism, it's still pretty awesome.

    Great video, and after seeing the movie Jesus Camp, I wouldn't be surprised if some places were just as screwed up, but where I go, it's so open minded that we can have long winded conversations about evolution. My counselor last year worked at the museum of natural science, for Christ's sake (pun intended).
    Funny story- we were watching a game of chess, and my partner in zombie related crime said, "I've got this friend... He's this weird branch of atheist where he believes that he's the almighty." All of the other kids nodded in agreement- The friend was tolerable, but obviously wrong, they think. I nod also, and say, "Yeah, that would be LaVeyan Satanism, I think." I got a lot of weird looks for that one. XD
  • But the rest of the sentence as a whole makes none.
    It's exactly what I meant to say. You know, the verb, "hate"? I do it so much.
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    But the rest of the sentence as a whole makes none.
    It's exactly what I meant to say. You know, the verb, "hate"? I do it so much.
    So you just hate in general. Kinda like that bit in 1984? Maybe, "I'm so full of hate" might be easier to get your head around.
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  • Methodist Church Camp is not bad. There was one up at Lake Louise, where my grandpa the minister would help out a lot. United Methodists are a pretty laid back bunch.
  • Methodist Church Camp is not bad. There was one up at Lake Louise, where my grandpa the minister would help out a lot. United Methodists are a pretty laid back bunch.
    Mhm. So laid back that when we sit in a circle and I say that I'm a Catholic that I get strange looks.
  • Methodist Church Camp is not bad. There was one up at Lake Louise, where my grandpa the minister would help out a lot. United Methodists are a pretty laid back bunch.
    Mhm. So laid back that when we sit in a circle and I say that I'm a Catholic that I get strange looks.
    I sometimes feel sorry for Catholics, they get a bad rap. :P

    And if you want laid back Christians, Lutherans are as laid back is it gets when it comes to religious folks. Unconditional (sort of) forgiveness and all that.

  • I sometimes feel sorry for Catholics, they get a bad rap. :P

    And if you want laid back Christians, Lutherans are as laid back is it gets when it comes to religious folks. Unconditional (sort of) forgiveness and all that.
    Bleh. I don't really care. I'm sort of in the closet, as far as my rampant atheism goes, so I use Catholicism to identify myself in public. It's the religion I'll be confirmed in, anyway. I can't wait. 'You put up with years of church school' money. <333

    My mother's side used to be Lutheran. My Grandmother converted because my grandfather was Catholic, and my mother converted because a preist came to visit her while she was practically dying. That said, my family isn't particularly religious.
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    'You put up with years of church school' money. <333</p>
    You're getting money for your confirmation? Lucky. All I got was the ability to continue living in my parent's house.

    [Edit] Corrected.
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    Great video, and after seeing the movie Jesus Camp, I wouldn't be surprised if some places were just as screwed up, but where I go, it's so open minded that we can have long winded conversations about evolution. My counselor last year worked at the museum of natural science, for Christ's sake (pun intended).
    Now, not to be mean but, the acceptance of the theory of evolution can't be called open-mindedness. It's being rational, any religion or person that wants to deny all the existing evidence for evolution would be immediately classified as ignorant if not crazy. That's why Pope John Paul II said that religion and science and coexist, one of the things that he did was to finally apologize for persecuting Galileo and accept his Heliocentric theory(1992).
    Bleh. I don't really care. I'm sort of in the closet, as far as my rampant atheism goes, so I use Catholicism to identify myself in public.
    You shouldn't have to identify yourself as a Catholic when you're atheist unless that's what the area you live in is like. I went through the same deal of confirmation but I said I was atheist to the not so bitter end. You shouldn't be embarrassed to be atheist either just be open about it but firm and no one can press the matter. Either way you have time since you're still under thirteen or so(I guessed from the confirmation comment).
    Post edited by Magnum_Opus on
  • ...Jesus camp?
    Not entirely relevant, but did you see Ted Haggard in that movie? Where he points into the camera and says something like "I know what you did last night. If you pay me $20,000, I won't tell your wife!" Delicious!
  • Now, not to be mean but, the acceptance of the theory of evolution can't be called open-mindedness. It's being rational, any religion or person that wants to deny all the existing evidence for evolution would be immediately classified as ignorant if not crazy.
    First off, don't worry about being mean. I can take it. But thanks for your consideration. ^^

    Second off, of course evolution and open mindedness don't go hand in hand, however you'd expect that at a Christian camp that conversation of that sort would be discouraged, because of all the opposing views. A camp wouldn't want to lose business for not encouraging the beliefs of the church, but at the same time they wouldn't want to offend anyone by pushing their beliefs on the campers. At the camp I was at, the conversation we had was extremely open. The majority of the group did accept evolution, including the counselor, but there were several people who disagreed, and that was just fine too. My counselor was very good with the subject. She spoke about how as someone who worked with science, she found the complexities of life mind boggling, and that they only increased her faith in God. Either way, someone can be an not so open minded person and still believe in evolution, and vice versa. Open openmindedness isn't based on rationality- it's based on a person's willingness to hear all sides of a story before making their own decision, rational or not.

    As far as the rationality of those who don't believe in evolution, I beg to differ. There are HORDES of people who openly dispute it, and they are still considered very rational people. They shouldn't be, in my opinion, but they are. They're very mainstream, in fact. I had a classmate who hated our science teacher for being an evolutionist, and it almost seemed like I was the only one that thought she was ignorant.
    You shouldn't have to identify yourself as a Catholic when you're atheist unless that's what the area you live in is like. I went through the same deal of confirmation but I said I was atheist to the not so bitter end. You shouldn't be embarrassed to be atheist either just be open about it but firm and no one can press the matter. Either way you have time since you're still under thirteen or so(I guessed from the confirmation comment).
    Well, I'm not embarrassed about my lack of faith, nor is the area I live in particularly biased against atheists. I'm not open about my disbelief in god simply because I know it would cause more trouble than it would be worth. The things in my life I have to put up with by acting as a Catholic are less bothersome than the idea of telling my grandmother, who is very excited for my confirmation, that I don't believe in god.Since my immediate family isn't super religious anyway, it doesn't take a lot of effort, and I've only got two more years before I'll get confirmed and never have to speak of it again.
  • I am all for coming out of the closet. Lying to people is generally a bad thing.

    As for evolution-deniers: If I meet someone who doesn't believe in the basic tenets of evolution, then I rarely interact with them on a personal level after that. As for wishy-washy "guided evolution" or deists, I try not to touch on their nugget of cognitive dissonance (religion). But, if we get in a debate on the topic, I will not hesitate to argue my position.

    Basically, people should be friendly when they debate. A lot of times people get very angry, which is a bad thing, especially if they are angry long afterward. Friends can debate very important topics, then continue to be friends afterward.
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    I am all for coming out of the closet. Lying to people is generally a bad thing.

    As for evolution-deniers: If I meet someone who doesn't believe in the basic tenets of evolution, then I rarely interact with them on a personal level after that. As for wishy-washy "guided evolution" or deists, I try not to touch on their nugget of cognitive dissonance (religion). But, if we get in a debate on the topic, I will not hesitate to argue my position.

    Basically, people should be friendly when they debate. A lot of times people get very angry, which is a bad thing, especially if they are angry long afterward. Friends can debate very important topics, then continue to be friends afterward.
    Generally, I'm not a very shy person about my beliefs, but right now I'm just not comfortable with making it public knowledge. Maybe sometime in the future, if it begins to bother me, or if something comes up.

    A lot of people aren't like that, including myself. I generally tend to respect someone less if they disbelieve evolution, but besides that, it doesn't stop me from getting to know someone. Overall, of course, I think society should be a little less accepting of the train of thought of creationism... But doesn't everyone want society to agree with their viewpoint?

    And yes, don't we all love a good friendly debate! I've had many with my friends, and while the majority of them think I'm an utter douche bag for my views, we're all still the best of chums.
    Post edited by Wings on
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