One indirect benefit of car companies is the technology they develop that then gets used in other areas. For example, the new Macbooks that have bodies made of a single piece of metal. This is also a popular argument used to help justify the space program.
Strip pensions from the list of things given to new employees and renegotiate the union contracts. Unions are killing a lot of things. NJ is suffering under the weight of the state workers' union contracts and the current politicians are afraid of touching them since the union workers are a big part of their power base.
Yeah, lets put the government in charge of the Car companies, because they do such a good job of running things. (Social Security: Status = Bankrupt, Medicare: Status = Bankrupt) Then when they fail, they will outlaw all foriegn cars, trash the fuel economy on the new cars, and raise gas taxes in the name of Global Warming.
Yeah, lets put the government in charge of the Car companies, because they do such a good job of running things. (Social Security: Status = Bankrupt, Medicare: Status = Bankrupt) Then when they fail, they will outlaw all foriegn cars, trash the fuel economy on the new cars, and raise gas taxes in the name of Global Warming.
Here at the FRC forums, we love abrasive statements backed up by circumstantial and unverified evidence. Good job newbie.
You really do love to tell us how we should be running our country, don't you? :P
Hey, at least we do our best to find a solution against _global_ warming. Sadly it's a _global_ issue, and thus efforts of 16 million people are not that noticable when they keep spewing 25% of the world consumption at full force into the air across the pond. Also, you can't run your country yourself, so pointing out someone whining about something that should be happening anyway is the least I could do.
You really do love to tell us how we should be running our country, don't you? :P
Hey, at least we do our best to find a solution against _global_ warming. Sadly it's a _global_ issue, and thus efforts of 16 million people are not that noticable when they keep spewing25% of the world consumptionat full force into the air across the pond. Also, you can't run your country yourself, so pointing out someone whining about something that should be happening anyway is the least I could do.
Oh yes, it's most certainly not the only or the worst greenhouse gas. We just have to hope that not suddenly a bunch of methane escapes from their gas fields into the air. That would screw us over for 2 decades or so. CO2 however is however still a polluting gas that does impact our atmosphere, and the lives of people living in metropoles. I would say it's only logical for humanity, now that we've developed and grown smarter, to step away from this archaic source of energy and move on to something non- or less-polluting. There are multiple theories about our earth becoming warmer (again), and until we know for certain what causes it we should not ignore the one theory that spells doom and disaster for all of us. After all, what if it's the correct one?
That and cleaner energy means less/no smog that has influence on people's health, and we'll be prepared for when finally the last reserves deplete.
There are multiple theories about our earth becoming warmer (again), and until we know for certain what causes it we should not ignore the one theory that spells doom and disaster for all of us. After all, what if it's the correct one?
If you want to listen to Al Gore's gloom and doom you can be my guest. Just remember that he's heavily invested in those expensive alternative energies you're so quick to run to. I'll listen to the climatologist from MIT instead of the politian/entreupeuner.
If you want to listen to Al Gore's gloom and doom you can be my guest. Just remember that he's heavily invested in those expensive alternative energies you're so quick to run to. I'll listen to the climatologist from MIT instead of the politian/entreupeuner.
Pardon? Why would I bother listening to a person who presents only one point and tries to get support by adding some personal drama in it? Why would I care about him having invested his money in alternative energy ideas? Why would I care about one of your failed presidential candidates?
And how dare you even suggest willy-nilly that I be so sheeple-minded that I do not research by myself and listen to other respected people in the field than you? If you want to throw with dirt, I recall you being the sheep that initially wanted to vote Republican, 'because McCain is Republican'. Even when the party no longer represented you.
It's night now, so goodnight, and enjoy ignoring my other points of interest.
There are multiple theories about our earth becoming warmer (again), and until we know for certain what causes it we should not ignore the one theory that spells doom and disaster for all of us. After all, what if it's the correct one?
The globe will inevitably warm up. We have climatological data that show that. There's no way around it. The question is really one of whether or not human activity has an influence, and if so, the extent of said influence. How much can we really affect?
I'll concur that we use too much energy, and that we should do everything we can to minimize our potential impact on global warming, simply because there is a slim chance it might do something. However, I heavily question the immediacy of the danger; I strongly doubt we're going to turn into a shitty Kevin Costner movie in the next 30 years. Will we ever? Absolutely. Will we now? Probably not. So, rather than use fear-mongering scare tactics to push forward technology to act as a band-aid, we need to seriously re-evaluate our energy consumption and start re-tooling our energy consumption patterns. That's a long-term project.
In the end, I'm confident that none of it will matter, because the average annual temperature of the Earth will rise over time, with or without us here. Instead of running around panicking about how we can stop it, we should start planning for the inevitable.
There are multiple theories about our earth becoming warmer (again), and until we know for certain what causes it we should not ignore the one theory that spells doom and disaster for all of us. After all, what if it's the correct one?
The globe will inevitably warm up. We have climatological data that show that. There's no way around it. The question is really one of whether or not human activity has an influence, and if so, the extent of said influence. How much can we really affect?
I'll concur that we use too much energy, and that we should do everything we can to minimize our potential impact on global warming, simply because there is a slim chance it might do something. However, I heavily question the immediacy of the danger; I strongly doubt we're going to turn into a shitty Kevin Costner movie in the next 30 years. Will we ever? Absolutely. Will we now? Probably not. So, rather than use fear-mongering scare tactics to push forward technology to act as a band-aid, we need to seriously re-evaluate our energy consumption and start re-tooling our energy consumption patterns. That's a long-term project.
In the end, I'm confident that none of it will matter, because the average annual temperature of the Earth will rise over time, with or without us here. Instead of running around panicking about how we can stop it, we should start planning for the inevitable.
Exactly. However, it's not easy to get everyone to use less energy. And since we do not know how much we influence the greenhouse effect, we shouldn't take risks and be preparing and moving on already.
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This is also a popular argument used to help justify the space program.
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That and cleaner energy means less/no smog that has influence on people's health, and we'll be prepared for when finally the last reserves deplete.
And how dare you even suggest willy-nilly that I be so sheeple-minded that I do not research by myself and listen to other respected people in the field than you? If you want to throw with dirt, I recall you being the sheep that initially wanted to vote Republican, 'because McCain is Republican'. Even when the party no longer represented you.
It's night now, so goodnight, and enjoy ignoring my other points of interest.
I'll concur that we use too much energy, and that we should do everything we can to minimize our potential impact on global warming, simply because there is a slim chance it might do something. However, I heavily question the immediacy of the danger; I strongly doubt we're going to turn into a shitty Kevin Costner movie in the next 30 years. Will we ever? Absolutely. Will we now? Probably not. So, rather than use fear-mongering scare tactics to push forward technology to act as a band-aid, we need to seriously re-evaluate our energy consumption and start re-tooling our energy consumption patterns. That's a long-term project.
In the end, I'm confident that none of it will matter, because the average annual temperature of the Earth will rise over time, with or without us here. Instead of running around panicking about how we can stop it, we should start planning for the inevitable.