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Ubuntu 9.10

George PatchesGeorge Patches
edited September 2009 in Technology
The new Ubuntu 9.10 Beta should be out sometime this week. Looks like Thursday.

What makes me a lot more interested in this version is that they set out to fix all the little petty annoyances of Linux for the average user. This sounds great to me because those little problems are always what drive me back to windows after a month or so.

Also, in my experience, the October releases seem to work better.

So what are other people's thoughts?
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  • AprecheApreche
    Going to do the upgrade for my parents who I think are still using Intrepid, or maybe something even older. Also going to update the laptop.

    For the servers, I'm going to wait for the April release, which will be an LTS.
  • ......
    fix all the little petty annoyances of Linux for the average user
    They're going to fix sound? They'll allow me to answer a Skype call without closing Firefox?
  • OmnutiaOmnutia
    @Nineless: What version of Skype are you running?
  • AprecheApreche
    fix all the little petty annoyances of Linux for the average user
    They're going to fix sound? They'll allow me to answer a Skype call without closing Firefox?
    Never had this problem.
  • JohnUJohnU
    I hope Tweetdeck is easier to get going, AIR about made me crazy. I also want better flash operation in the 64-bit version.
  • OmnutiaOmnutia
    Adobe AIR brings everything I hate about Flash to desktop.
  • GeoGeo
    edited September 2009
    Who would have the problem Nine does? Are you using Ubuntu, Nine?
    Post edited by Geo on
  • George PatchesGeorge Patches
    Adobe AIR brings everything I hate about Flash to desktop.
    QFT. Memory and CPU cycle hogs, that now crash my entire desktop instead of just my browser.
  • fooflyfoofly
    I run Ubuntu Netbook Remix on my Aspire One, I'll wait for them to sort out the upgrades for that before I go ahead and upgrade. I want better flash video support.
  • ......
    Are you using Ubuntu, Nine?
    Jesus Henrietta Christ. Of course not! I just post sceptically in a thread for the new Ubuntu release because it's fun.
    @Nineless: What version of Skype are you running?
    Latest of course.
    Never had this problem.
    It's just a combination of Skype failing to play along nicely with other software that wants to use the audio card and the support of a basic sound card. An Intel one where even XP doesn't need drivers to detect whether a jack is plugged in or not, but with Ubu I have to uncheck the 'Headphones' checkbox in my audio mixer to mute my speakers so that I can just stay sane when using my headphones. It's worse when I use Pulse. Oh god Pulse that's a load of cow dung.
  • OmnutiaOmnutia
    edited September 2009
    Latest of course.
    Latest from the Ubuntu repository or latest from the Skype website? Are you using 2.1?
    Post edited by Omnutia on
  • George PatchesGeorge Patches
    I thought pulse was supposed to be good. Damn linux and audio.
  • OmnutiaOmnutia
    edited September 2009
    I thought pulse was supposed to be good. Damn linux and audio.
    It was supposed to be better than Alsa, which it is, by a long way. Still pretty crap, though.
    Post edited by Omnutia on
  • George PatchesGeorge Patches
    edited September 2009
    Making me not wanna bother with the linux. Windows 7 is warm and fuzzy.
    Post edited by George Patches on
  • AprecheApreche
    Linux and audio have sucked for a long long long time. I've been complaining about it for over five years. It has not improved.
  • ......
    It was supposed to be better than Alsa, which it is, by a long way. Still pretty crap, though.
    I find this to be highly circumstantial. Pulse just utterly broke everything when I installed it, so I just removed it and I had sound again. Now I just suffer from Skype not playing fair, though that's probably more related to Linux just failing at supporting my soundcard properly when I am using a microphone. It probably is an improvement for other systems, but in my experience, ALSA just works for the minimum expectations, Pulse being a joke.

    As for the version, latest skype-static in the Medibuntu repository, which is 2.0.0.72. Grabbing from the site requires I install all the qt shit.
  • jlawson70jlawson70
    One of the nice things from the Atlanta Linux Fest I attended last weekend was on Friday night at the hotel bar. A couple of guys from Canonical were there and had USB jump drives with the latest alpha release of Ubuntu 9.10. Ran it on my Aspire One and did some bug reporting. Seems to me like they want this release to be as fool proof as possible.
  • George PatchesGeorge Patches
    I am really excited about this, I never ran 9.04, I feel like I missed something. Even if I go back to Windows, I love playing with the new Ubuntu releases.
  • George PatchesGeorge Patches
    I just discovered that dual booting Vista/7 is more complicated than dual booting XP was.
  • George PatchesGeorge Patches
    Fucking linux, I forgot how much this bullshit annoys me. I just want to change the mic from the onboard mic port to my USB mic. WHY MUST THIS BE SO DIFFICULT????

    If they haven't fixed this in 9.10, I'm going to be severely disappointed.
  • OmnutiaOmnutia
    edited September 2009
    Install pavucontrol, it makes changing sound cards around much easier, if it works.
    When I get annoyed with Ubuntu, trying to use Windows for a prolonged period keeps me sane.
    Post edited by Omnutia on
  • George PatchesGeorge Patches
    Install pavucontrol, it makes changing sound cards around much easier, if it works.
    When I get annoyed with Ubuntu, trying to use Windows for a prolonged period keeps me sane.
    I actually installed that on my own. I see my mic and I can see the levels moving when I talk, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to tell Pulse to listen it instead of my onboard.

    I'm exactly the opposite, I use Linux every 6 months to remind me why I actually pay money for Windows. Windows 7 is so much slicker and easier compared to this.

    I have high hopes for 9.10, but 9.04 is not instilling me with confidence.
  • OmnutiaOmnutia
    edited September 2009
    "Input Devices --> Your device --[Right Click]--> Default"
    To change where a stream is going to/coming from, on the fly, go to: "Playback OR Recording --> Find the program --[Right Click]--> Move Stream --> Your Card."
    Post edited by Omnutia on
  • George PatchesGeorge Patches
    "Input Devices --> Your device --[Right Click]--> Default"
    To change where a stream is going to/coming from, on the fly, go to: "Playback OR Recording --> Find the program --[Right Click]--> Move Stream --> Your Card."
    HOORAY!!!!

    Oh fuck me running, now skype fails with "problem with audio capture"
  • OmnutiaOmnutia
    Are you running the Skype from the Skype website?
  • George PatchesGeorge Patches
    Yeah, version 2.1.0.47 I believe.
  • ......
    Gedavids, turn off all other audio card using programs like Firefox, your mp3 player, anything, then try again.
  • George PatchesGeorge Patches
    edited September 2009
    No go. I'm starting to think that Linus Torvalds hates me and writes the linux kernel in such a way as to never work properly on whatever computer I happen to own.

    *crosses fingers for 9.10 tomorrow*
    Post edited by George Patches on
  • OmnutiaOmnutia
    Sorry to disappoint you but they're releasing at the end of the month.
  • George PatchesGeorge Patches
    Sorry to disappoint you butthey're releasing at the end of the month.
    The Beta should be out tomorrow or there abouts.
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