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James Randi is Gay

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  • You forgot 'versatile'. :p
    The proper terminology is "switch." ^_~

    Having met the guy, I am entirely not surprised at his announcement. It also has very little impact at all on my life, except to remind me that we are still in a place where people have to "come out" instead of just being honest about who they are when they figure it out.
  • Actually the terminology is switch or versatile.

    Switch. Switch hitter - Can mean any of the following: guy who is willing to be a dom or a sub; a bottom or a top; fuck or get fucked. Can also refer to a guy who will have sex with either men or women

    Versatile, VS, VST - A guy who can bottom or top.
  • I stand corrected. I still think versatile is a bit of a mouthful and prefer the other term, but hey, I'm not a dude.
  • Alot of guys prefer a mouthful though you know? ^_^
  • Alot of guys prefer a mouthful though you know? ^_^
    Speak for yourself there buddy. :P

    If we want to talk about multi-use terms, asking if Randi is a "top or bottom" is a bit ambiguous, since that can either refer to a top or bottom in the BDSM scene, or a top or bottom in the anonymous gay sex world. Porn producers often refer to males as tops or bottoms depending on whether they're giving it or taking it. Not that I've studied gay porn extensively or anything.

    How about this: James Randi likes having sex with men.
  • I should have known that this was going to come... up.

    YEEAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!
  • since that can either refer to a top or bottom in the BDSM scene,
    Currently, to the best of my knowlege, the terms Dom, Sub and Switch are used rather than Top or Bottom within the scene.
  • since that can either refer to a top or bottom in the BDSM scene,
    Currently, to the best of my knowlege, the terms Dom, Sub and Switch are used rather than Top or Bottom within the scene.
    Top and bottom are pretty common, especially for people who are talking about what role they will take in a particular scene rather than identifying with a particular role in general. "I like to top," as opposed to "I'm a sub." It's a lot less formal than it used to be, and people are less willing to define themselves with rigid labels. Top and bottom carry a lot less assumptive baggage than Dom and Sub.
  • Top and bottom are pretty common, especially for people who are talking about what role they will take in a particular scene rather than identifying with a particular role in general. "I like to top," as opposed to "I'm a sub." It's a lot less formal than it used to be, and people are less willing to define themselves with rigid labels. Top and bottom carry a lot less assumptive baggage than Dom and Sub.
    Huh, wierd. Over here, Top and bottom are almost exclusively Gay terminology, and Dom/sub/switch being the BDSM terminology almost exclusively.

    However, I should note that this is England, and most people here don't avoid defining themselves in rigid categories, they rush to it. Not to mention that the BDSM community here pretty much self-segregates from the community at large, and segregates itself from the BDSM community in other parts of the world - mostly to decide that theirs is the superior one, and that "Those yanks" don't know what they're doing. Honestly, the BDSM community here isn't something you can take seriously.
  • Oh, we have a lot of overlap b/w the gay community and the BDSM community, so that probably contributed. Every group has its elitists and its crazies. We have 'em over here too. A lot of people are somewhat more casual about their kink, and there are quite a few organizations dedicated solely to promoting community and education on the subject that welcome people of all levels. You don't have to be a hardcore 24/7 lifestyler to enjoy a little D/s.
  • Oh, we have a lot of overlap b/w the gay community and the BDSM community, so that probably contributed. Every group has its elitists and its crazies. We have 'em over here too. A lot of people are somewhat more casual about their kink, and there are quite a few organizations dedicated solely to promoting community and education on the subject that welcome people of all levels. You don't have to be a hardcore 24/7 lifestyler to enjoy a little D/s.
    The problem with the BDSM community here is reversed - You don't Have it's elitists and Crazies, here, the BDSM community has it's Laid back types and cool people, with the Elitists and Crazies being the norm. Sure, many will say "Oh, that person is an elitist" but the problem is that when most say it, it's just a form of silly infighting, with people trying to prove who has the biggest BDSM-peen.
    Seriously, one of the most common comments I hear about anyone else on the scene who isn't a close friend of the person they're speaking to - "Oh, they're alright, but I could (Perform a particular action or adopt a certain behavior) (arbitrary muliplication value) better than then any day."
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    Haha... that's great if all you care about is your skill at X. Can't fake the human connection aspect, though. I don't care how good you are at X; if you give off a creepy vibe, you are not touching me. I think it's pretty much universal; it's an insecurity thing. If you're cool with yourself, you don't have to try to show everyone else how awesome you are. (That's not to say it won't happen naturally.)
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  • Well, this conversation went down a path way far away from an 81 year old man coming out :-p
  • Well, this conversation went down a path way far away from an 81 year old man coming out :-p
    That's what YOU think.
  • Haha... that's great if all you care about is your skill at X. Can't fake the human connection aspect, though. I don't care how good you are at X; if you give off a creepy vibe, you are not touching me. I think it's pretty much universal; it's an insecurity thing. If you're cool with yourself, you don't have to try to show everyone else how awesome you are. (That's not to say it won't happen naturally.)
    What, you think they call him "The Amazing Randi" because he's a good magician?
  • You don't Have it's elitists and Crazies, here, the BDSM community has it's Laid back types and cool people, with the Elitists and Crazies being the norm.
    I think the generational differences have a lot to do with it. I've met many people in the scene who are a lot older and far more "elitist," looking down on people who identify as a switches, insisting that everyone call them Master whatever, and so forth. Meanwhile, the young generation is generally of the "fuck that" mindset, and are a lot more open and laid back about things. A lot of it has to do with how people got into it, I think. The Internet has made things way more available to people from all different walks of life, so you're going to run into a lot more young people with differing goals. Most of the older crowd is on the same page.

    Anyway, all this goes to show is that you shouldn't run around worrying about what other people think of your private life (OK, well, to a reasonable extent), and just be you. I'm glad Randi came out, and it should serve as inspiration to let everyone know that it's never too late to be open.
  • It's his life, and I wish him happiness.
  • mostly to decide that theirs is the superior one, and that "Those yanks" don't know what they're doing.
    Oh, you mean like everything the British do?
  • People on the Internet..
  • Oh, you mean like everything the British do?
    I wouldn't go that far, to the surprise of everyone who has heard me bitching about this place for the last two years.
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