So, we're in the market for an HD video camera. We have few real needs:
1. At least 720p
2. Able to stream video in a manner that could be used as a webcam
3. (optional) ORAble to stream in a manner that Adobe OnLocation could record properly
Does anyone have any suggestions? Price is a relatively minor factor (though we're not buying a Red camera, obviously).
Because you can pick up a Red Scarlet 2/3 8x Bundle(Brain, lens, side CF module, REDmote, 2.8 LCD touchscreen, redvolt battery and a travel charger) for only about $4750, which is about three hundred less than a high end Canon DSLR, like a EOS-1D Mark IV, which won't do as decent video, and almost certainly won't stream anything.
Or do you want the "Price is a minor factor, but somewhat more than it seems by the statement" kinda cameras, like for example, a decent Everio, which will shoot in 1080p, but propably won't be able to be used to stream video, however, I'm not sure on that point, and clock in at about a grand.
Or are we talking "I can talk the talk, but I ain't gonna walk the walk" kinda stuff, like for example, a Sony Cybershot H20, which you can pick up for about 250 bucks?
The cheapest one above that, with the three larger camera, the XH A1, which clocks in at about four grand PER CAMERA, plus the accessories, plus the four grand tricaster, plus the software..
Secondly, we know about the tricaster. It's also clearly far too advanced for our current needs, though that may change a few years from now.
All we want is an HD camcorder that can also be used as a webcam when you connect it to a computer with USB or some such. Also consider an HD camcorder that has HDMI out combined with a video capture card that can act as a webcam and has HDMI input.
Rym gave a very vauge price point, and I asked for clarification, with examples of the levels I was thinking of - Not much more I can do with so little information.
Based on what you've said, I'll refine my search. Give me an upper price point, and I'll refine it even further.
I don't know if a HDMI video capture card will do anything with OnLocation, I've never worked with it before, but I'd be surprised if you couldn't.
So, Now tell me why that's not a suitable option, so I can give you a better recommendation.
Edit - After a look about, is This acceptable for what you need?
"an HDV camera would be the best option because it can record native 720p frame sizes (i.e. 1280x720). The DVCProHD cameras do not. The Sony Z1U is a nice HDV camcorder which can also record DV and DVCam. It has firewire in/out. Actually any HDV camcorder works. The [Canon]HV40 is a small but powerful HDV camcorder that is matched picture quality wise with the [Sony]EX1."
For any of this to make sense you'll have skim the Wikipedia on all these standards and formats (HDV/DVCProHD/DV/DVCam), something I am sure you've already (regrettably) begun. Anywhoo, the Sonys kick 11 kinds of ass, but break your budget, so I'd take a look at the Canon HV40. I think you can get one of those puppies for under a k. Hope this helps!
However, the Canon HV40 is not suitable for what they're asking. You can't stream in via PC connection unless you use a capture card, and then only in high def if you have a Video capture card that can deal with High-def component video - it has no HDMI out.
Though, The only way the HV40 is the equal to the EX1 is if you're having a particularly vivid dream. Simply, there is no way a thousand dollar consumer grade videocassette camera is going to stand up against a seven thousand dollar professional grade digital video camera.
Edit - Sorry if I come off as a little harsh, I pretty much type the way I talk - it's much different to the actual tone of voice it'd say it in, were I speaking, rather than typing. Don't mean to sound like a dick, but when you write down what I say, it's what happens.
Edit: P.S. The RED camera is good, but the Canons both make better pictures than it as well. See the following:
I suggested the Red because of it's modular nature(you can upgrade all of the parts when needed rather than having to buy a new camera, unlike the canons, where you have a choice between "Buy body" and "Buy lens"), and because I'm pretty sure you can stream the scarlet straight into your computer, as well as control it from the computer directly - but that's irrelevant, because it's too expensive.
Also, I feel I should note for completeness, there are a number of HD webcams about - such as the Logitech pro 9000 (which I can vouch for personally), the Microsoft Lifecam Cinema, and the Logitech quickcam orbit AF, which also has computer controllable pan and tilt. They Record to 720P Natively, connect directly to your computer with USB. Light, portable. Will be fine for doing your live stream - shit, for less than most of the cameras we've specified, you could buy three or four of them.
For our PAXing (details forthcoming), you should see the crazy rig I made by attaching a webcam to our handycam. It's ridiculous.
As best I can tell, if it's possible, your best option is to stream from a video capture card or some similar hardware to Ustream, while you record on the camera. I don't know if or how you would achieve this. I'm looking into it. If I find out, I'll tell you. Bonus credit if you also attached it to a homemade Steadicam-alike rig.
The Canon 5D has an 35mm size imager and that's how it makes video that looks so much better than anything else on the market. If you want to record to it and to the computer at the same time then you would probably want to go with the 7D because it will continue to send out an HD video output from the HDMI where the 5D switches to SD when you record on the camera. They're both extremely cheap for the quality of video that they record, $4000-$12000 for a camera package that would allow you to produce a feature film that looks better than anything else currently available.
Currently I know of no good solutions to using a real video camera as a webcam because neither USB or Firewire are capable of taking in a 1080p image in real time. But with the suggestion of the HDMI video capture card you can do that for relatively cheap, and have a camera that is insanely good as a still camera or video camera. The only limitations on the Canon cameras as video cameras is that you can't zoom with them the same way you can with an actual video camera, but as long as you're not needing to zoom with it, I can't think of a better option.
I'm getting real close to buying a real camera. The Flip has its sync issues, and our handycam's SD really shows badly now that we're using it for anything.