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GeekNights 20100728 - Durarara

MrPeriodMrPeriod
edited July 2010 in GeekNights

Tonight on GeekNights, a proper review of the excellent anime Durarara. In the news, we discuss the coming end of the anime industry, DiscoTek's coming English releases of the Galaxy Express 999 movies and Project A-Ko, the "stabbing" in Hall H at ComicCon, and Otakon is this weekend (though we will not be attending or performing any panels for the first time since 2001).

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  • George PatchesGeorge Patches
    Woah! Two episodes in two days!
  • AprecheApreche
    Woah! Two episodes in two days!
    Except there hasn't been a Monday episode in over a month...
  • RochelleRochelle
    Rym's Thing -Ten Famous Phalluses
    The bonus penis is something my state WILL NEVER live down.

    Everytime I go near Enumclaw I can only think of that incident.
  • progSHELLprogSHELL
    edited July 2010
    Durarara is based on a visual novel.
    Hate to be a pedantic asshole, but you're talking about light novels. Visual novels are text/click video games. Basically, think about your standard Japanese porn game like those released by Key or Leaf. Those are visual novels. Light novels are basically novels with a couple illustrations.
    Post edited by progSHELL on
  • chaosof99chaosof99
    The overlap between Durarara and Baccano are much deeper than just the director. It's the same director, the same studio and the light novels (which is an egregious mistake by you guys) were written by the same guy published by the same people.
  • AprecheApreche
    Hate to be a pedantic asshole, but you're talking about light novels. Visual novels are text/click video games. Basically, think about your standard Japanese porn game like those released by Key or Leaf. Those are visual novels. Light novels are basically novels with a couple illustrations.
    Yeah, easy mistake to make.
  • ......
    Yeah, easy mistake to make.
    youjustwentfullretard.tiff.exe
    Hate to be a pedantic asshole, but you're talking about light novels. Visual novels are text/click video games. Basically, think about your standard Japanese porn game like those released by Key or Leaf. Those are visual novels. Light novels are basically novels with a couple illustrations.
    And visual novels are not porn games according to some scary folk. They would rip out your throat for calling an Ero-game visual novel and vice versa.
  • gomidoggomidog
    edited July 2010
    Yeah, easy mistake to make.
    which is an egregious mistake by you guys
    No, seriously, I can see how someone would make that mistake. Light novels have pictures, so they are "visual," visual novels are not really "novels" in the traditional sense. Lay off, you little otaku-heads.
    Post edited by gomidog on
  • ......
    And no-one else got it.
    AHAHAHAHAHAHA-you wish. It was quite obvious already before you put your prediction on the forums. Ram your fucking ego against a pin PLEASE.

    To be honest, I should not have downloaded this episode. It utterly destroyed the awesome build up with the Luke and Jared interview of yesterday. I mean, you could've had Wikipedia open to check the few claims you made. The anime covered the first 3 light novels and there are supposedly still a few novels being written.
    No, seriously, I can see how someone would make that mistake. Light novels have pictures, so they are "visual," visual novels are not really "novels" in the traditional sense. Lay off, you little otaku-heads.
    Problem: We're talking about Scrym, THE PERFECT, FLAWLESS, HOT-AIR HEADS THAT ARE SCRYM. They claim to be intelligent, but don't fucking check one Wikipedia page beforehand. And I doubt they know that a light novel has images in it, or that they even thought about that fact when they mentioned it.
  • TechparadoxTechparadox
    edited July 2010
    Extended Notes:

    Geeknights 20100728 - Durarara

    Expanded Show Notes - Show Run Time: 53:36

    Time | Notes
    ---------+----------------------------------------------------------
    00:00:00 | Intro
    00:00:24 | Opening Chit-Chat and news
    | - Cab Rides in NYC - Rym's cabbie owned his own medallion
    | - OMG news in the comic & animation industry
    | - Why does everyone save their announcements for SDCC? Scott doesn't see the logic in this
    | - The "stabbing" in Hall H at ComicCon
    | - Discussion of the hell that is Hall H
    | - Dead air while Rym and Scott re-enact the "stabbing"
    | - Scott gets indignant and doesn't understand why Hall H gets filled
    | - Rym recaps what info he has on the incident
    | - Scott has memory troubles, Rym suspects alzheimers
    | - Eisner award winners @ SDCC - read A Drifting Life
    | - Anime DVD releases - DiscoTek to release the Galaxy Express 999 movies and Project A-Ko
    | - Also announced by DiscoTek: Princess Blade, Aquarian Age
    | - Suggestion to go check out the Anime World Order podcast on Project A-Ko
    | - Drawn & Quarterly to release new manga
    | - Dai Sato, the author of Cowboy Bebop, predicts the coming end of the anime industry
    | - Dai Sato suggests Eden of the East and Ergo Proxy as anime that are not stagnant in the industry
    | - Rym notes that Dai Sato worked on both Eden of the East and Ergo Proxy
    00:21:23 | Things of the Day
    | - Potential anime memes?
    | Scott - Norio Wakamoto's Lucky Star
    | Rym - Ten Famous Phalluses
    | - Scott posits that he is on the list
    | - Discussion of the "members" of the list
    00:24:19 | Meta Moment
    | - Otacon is this weekend (July 30-Aug 1), Geeknights will not be in attendance
    | - Discussion of badge-getting tactics @ Otacon
    | - Suggestion of best timing for getting your 18+ wristband for the violent movies
    | - Suggestion to voice your opinion at the feedback session
    | - Book Club - The Golden Apples of the Sun by Ray Bradbury
    | - New York ComicCon / New York Anime Festival, Oct 8-10
    | - NerdNYC Boardgame Night, Oct 8
    | - 10-10-10 Burning Wheel Convention, Oct 8-10
    | - PAX Prime, September 3-5 - big Geeknights events planned
    | - NerdNYC Recess, September 11
    00:31:37 | Main Topic
    | - Rym notes that most of the anime they have been covering are not new
    | - New anime that's worth talking about (no spoilers)
    | - The Durarara!! anime is heavily recommended by Rym and Scott
    | - Name is an onomatopoeia for the sound a motorcycle makes
    | - Scott notes that it is based on a visual novel
    | - Discussion on visual novels
    | - Discussion of the series' director
    | - Hard to discuss the show without spoiling it
    | - "Urban legends are actually real"
    | - Lots of characters, two possible main characters
    | - Show is not easily predictable
    | - Viewer may know more than the characters at points in the story
    | - Suggested age range for show would be 8 and up
    | - The series opens with the mystery of the headless rider, is wrapped up in short order
    | - Discussion of "magic" in the show
    | - Durarara!! cosplay?
    | - Show is fun and takes you along for a ride, has good soundtrack
    | - Downside to the show is you're not getting the whole story because it hasn't adapted all the light novels
    | - Discussion of whether or not the shows would stand on their own
    | - First season plot resolves itself in a very satisfying way and answers most of the questions raised
    | - Discussion of favorite characters
    | - *** SPOILERS ***
    | - Scott's prediction of the head of The Dollars
    | - Discussion of people's powers
    | - Corruption from a weapon (the one ring?) in anime form
    | - Rym's thoughts on someone getting shot at the end of the episode
    00:52:37 | Outro
    Post edited by Techparadox on
  • gomidoggomidog
    edited July 2010
    Problem: We're talking about Scrym, THE PERFECT, FLAWLESS, HOT-AIR HEADS THAT ARE SCRYM. They claim to be intelligent, but don't fucking check one Wikipedia page beforehand. And I doubt they know that a light novel has images in it, or that they even thought about that fact when they mentioned it.
    Yes, they know because I have talked about light novels before. I read light novels and regular novels from Kinokuniya regularly. I think it is probably that they heard me talk about light novels and then heard me talk about visual novels and got them confused. They are intelligent, but they (like every other human) often make mistakes. I teach them about Japanese stuff they had wrong or didn't know a lot about.

    Plus, wasn't this more a review of the show rather than super informative data of every little thing.
    Post edited by gomidog on
  • George PatchesGeorge Patches
    Placeholder for extended notes goes here, more comments to follow after I've listened to the show. :)
    Seriously? Listen to the show, then post. >_>
  • TechparadoxTechparadox
    Placeholder for extended notes goes here, more comments to follow after I've listened to the show. :)
    Seriously? Listen to the show, then post. >_>
    No access to the MP3 feed at work due to fascist network administrators. Don't want the expanded notes to be buried on page three, now do we? ;D
  • SailSail
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the expanded notes were for searchability. In which case it really doesn't matter what page they're on.
  • TechparadoxTechparadox
    edited July 2010
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the expanded notes were for searchability. In which case it really doesn't matter what page they're on.
    Excuse me for wanting to save end users the inconvenience of having to click back to the first page of a thread to read through the whole thread if they hit on one of the topics in the search. :D
    Post edited by Techparadox on
  • RobertRobert
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't a lot of people hate Eden of the East and Ergo Proxy?
  • George PatchesGeorge Patches
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't a lot of people hate Eden of the East and Ergo Proxy?
    Those people are wrong and thus their opinions are invalid.
  • Josh BytesJosh Bytes
    edited July 2010
    Did anybody else wonder what happen with Izaya and his main goal? I mean he didn't seem all that bothered after it was all set and done. I thought the whole point of him causing a triangle gang war was to connect Celty back with her head. And for Izaya to be there when it happens so he happily can ride off to Valhalla.
    Post edited by Josh Bytes on
  • ......
    but they (like every other human) often make mistakes.
    Scrym making mistakes?! PANIC, SCRAMBLE, PANIC! Maybe it would be time better spent if you told them that instead of everyone else that already knows so.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't a lot of people hate Eden of the East and Ergo Proxy?
    I've never heard anyone stating they hate either show. Eden of the East just ends weakly (probably to get people to the film theatre) and Ergo Proxy isn't what you expect.
    Did anybody else wonder what happen with Izaya and his main goal?
    There's at least 5 more volumes of stuff. Izaya'll have enough strings to manipulate I guess. Also, that copper, he only appeared 2 or 3 times outside of the OP/ED. Can't wait to see more of him in season 2/however they continue.
  • DaemonCorpsDaemonCorps
    edited August 2010
    Very awesome episode. Have been waiting since the "Anime Scott Fell Asleep Watching" episode for something that caught my attention.

    I actually caught Durarara (yeah, Scott gotcha there with the extra "ra" in the title, Rym) before Baccano and personally liked it better... at least for the first part of Durarara, that is. The initial episodes really do a good job introducing all the weird characters and the new life Mikado has suddenly gotten himself into. I personally thought explaining the headless rider just a few episodes in was a strange move and could have been saved for the last episode, but other than that, all the other character introductions were great. Come the second arc, though, stuff seemed a bit messier, which is interesting, considering how much more the viewers know. Stuff like additional characters for the sake of plot just didn't turn out as well as I thought, I guess. And the whole thing with the slasher ended up taking a turn for the worse, especially since I was hoping for a replacement of sorts to the headless rider after finding out who she really was. Still, a pretty good anime as a whole and anxiously awaiting its licensing.

    Also, in terms of the title, I always thought it had multiple meanings to it. In addition to what was said about the motorcycle sound, there's also the fact that a dullahan plays a somewhat major role to the series as well as the term daladala introduced during the second arc stuff, meaning something along the lines of "dilly-dallying." [EDIT: Yeah I know that it was directly stated that "daladala" was the root term to which Mikado got the name for the Dollars, but you can't deny that the term is eerily similar to "durarara."

    Overall, an alright episode, but like the other guys said, you might wanna fact-check some stuff beforehand. And like Scott said, Rym... no matter how many "ra"s you add to it, that doesn't make it any less annoying when said out loud. Still, keep it up :D.
    Post edited by DaemonCorps on
  • ApsupApsup
    I personally thought explaining the headless rider just a few episodes in was a strange move and could have been saved for the last episode, but other than that, all the other character introductions were great.
    I think that making Celty an actual character early in the series is one of the best things that Durarara does. Character that has it's own character arch and development is much better than mystery that you have to wait to find out what it's all about, especially in character drama focused show like Durarara.
  • Josh BytesJosh Bytes
    One of the plot devices I really liked, was how in the last arc you had the triple cross action going on. With characters in all 3 gangs. It felt like this plot point could have been explored a whole lot more though but wasn't.
  • ......
    I personally thought explaining the headless rider just a few episodes in was a strange move and could have been saved for the last episode
    Celty was the character that tied the rest together and is generally considered to be the main character for as far as you can say there is one. Not fleshing her out at the start would have been a bad idea.
  • La Petit MortLa Petit Mort
    I personally can't wait for the OAV, I heard mention of Izaya's sisters coming in the episode. No Vorona though...
  • FundefinedFundefined
    edited August 2010
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't a lot of people hate Eden of the East and Ergo Proxy?
    Generally people don't hate EotE or Ergo Proxy, they hate that it's initial premise was amazing but then devolved into a mess of wasted potential. I thought the first two episodes of EotE were the best two opening episodes of any anime ever, sadly almost every episode afterwards was disappointing comparatively.
    Post edited by Fundefined on
  • DaemonCorpsDaemonCorps
    Celty was the character that tied the rest together and is generally considered to be the main character for as far as you can say there is one. Not fleshing her out at the start would have been a bad idea.
    While I agree that Celty ties the whole series together, I feel like they could have done the series just as well by keeping her backstory from the viewers. I mean, we don't exactly have a detailed backstory for the old man and little girl from "Baccano" and yet they did an excellent job in starting and ending the series.
    Generally people don't hate EotE or Ergo Proxy, they hate that it's initial premise was amazing but then devolved into a mess of wasted potential. I thought the first two episodes of EotE were the best two opening episodes of any anime ever, sadly almost every episode afterwards was disappointing comparatively.
    Agreed. If anything, the "Eden of the East" series itself was more of a backstory needed to the superior movie that followed.
  • KyleKyle
    edited August 2010
    Extended Notes:

    | - Dead air while Rym and Scott re-enact the "stabbing"
    Was it meant to be a re-enactment? It seemed like they were meant to throw to an audio clip, but there was a tech error. Either way it was a confusing moment.
    Post edited by Kyle on
  • GreatTeacherMacRossGreatTeacherMacRoss
    Hey, I don't say "Ah-tacon", I say "Oh-tacon". Are you referring to another Adam?
  • TechparadoxTechparadox
    Was it meant to be a re-enactment? It seemed like they were meant to throw to an audio clip, but there was a tech error. Either way it was a confusing moment.
    Sounded like dead air to me. I don't know if Scrym had the webcam on for this show, but either way that section made for bad radio. :)
  • RymRym
    Sounded like dead air to me. I don't know if Scrym had the webcam on for this show, but either way that section made for bad radio. :)
    I might have edited in a hurry. I may re-upload the episode and fix that.

    Meta aside: I'm very close to upgrading our studio yet again. We've outgrown dual channel recording, especially as we start bringing more guests in, so I need some better infrastructure. I'm either getting a racked Firewire interface or a Mackie. This will greatly increase our capacity to have guests and cut down on editing errors.
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