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Psychedelics
How many of you use/have used psychedelics, and how do you feel about them in general?
I've always been curious about how everyone on here feels about this topic and I haven't been able to find any discussions about it.
After a few Psilocybin trips (none exceeding 3 grams however), I'm half-way convinced psychedelics cannot truly offer spiritual insight unless the user already possesses said spirituality; in other words, altered perception just changes the way you look at things, it doesn't reveal the secrets of the universe. I don't use these drugs to "speak to god" or any other Randi bullshit I see commonly associated with them, but rather to enjoy playing piano, my NES, ride my bike, and many other things. Psychedelics give me the feeling of being a child again and I can gain an appreciation for the simple things in life much more than usual.
I don't want this to become an argument/discussion about the use of drugs in all categories, so please try to restrict yourself to the psychedelic drugs only.
I've always been curious about how everyone on here feels about this topic and I haven't been able to find any discussions about it.
After a few Psilocybin trips (none exceeding 3 grams however), I'm half-way convinced psychedelics cannot truly offer spiritual insight unless the user already possesses said spirituality; in other words, altered perception just changes the way you look at things, it doesn't reveal the secrets of the universe. I don't use these drugs to "speak to god" or any other Randi bullshit I see commonly associated with them, but rather to enjoy playing piano, my NES, ride my bike, and many other things. Psychedelics give me the feeling of being a child again and I can gain an appreciation for the simple things in life much more than usual.
I don't want this to become an argument/discussion about the use of drugs in all categories, so please try to restrict yourself to the psychedelic drugs only.
Comments
It's a cool feeling, but there are a lot of people who get burned out on it and that's not where I want to be. Recreational tripping ho!
I use cannabis regularly, going in phases from between once every few months, to once or twice a week. Cannabis isn't a psychedelic per se, but it definitely has things in common with "true" psychedelics. I've taken mushrooms (psilocybin) a few times, and acid once. I enjoyed the mushrooms a lot, though they make me a bit nauseous, and I felt that acid was really similar in its psychoactive effects, but it just made me feel kinda gross and cracked out, so I don't think I'll be doing that again. I've also done salvia (which is a very powerful, yet legal, psychedelic) a few times, and while it's a very intense experience, it's not necessarily enjoyable, and certainly not "spiritual". This is pretty much the way I see it. I don't know how anyone with a naturalistic view of the world could expect to find some kind of wisdom from outside of yourself that comes from drugs.
However, these drugs definitely put your brain into a different mode -- I've heard it said that psychedelics "defrag your brain". I've had relatively profound insights into my self and my life and the way I relate to the world with these drugs. I've also had very practical insights -- almost every time I get high and draw, I learn new things and improve my skills in a concrete way. (However, I absolutely cannot draw for work while I'm high.) Actually, some of you may remember that I recently quit my day job to be a full-time artist. I realized that that was what I had to do while on acid. Now, it's not as if I made a major life decision based on an acid trip -- I still spent weeks debating the pros and cons -- but it was that trip that allowed me to see the situation clearly, and cut through the fear and uncertainty that had been holding me back.
To sum up, while they're not for everybody, I think that if you have the right kind of temperament, these drugs can be immensely helpful. I feel like I'm a better person in many ways, and in a much better place, than I was five years ago (I never touched illegal drugs until I was 26), and I attribute a lot of that to insights I had while using these drugs. Oh man, edibles are way too much for a first-timer. Not to try to pressure you or anything, but nothing has to be "broken" -- it's just another experience. There's a lot of risk in skydiving, and people still do it.
Except for the fact that every human being to have ever existed has subconsciously know since the day they were born.
John Hopkins studied the effects of Psilocybin Mushrooms in 2006 and came to some pretty amazing conclusions.
"Two months later, 79 percent of subjects reported moderately or greatly increased well-being or life satisfaction compared with those given a placebo at the same test session. A majority said their mood, attitudes and behaviors had changed for the better. Structured interviews with family members, friends and co-workers generally confirmed the subjects’ remarks. Results of a year-long followup are being readied for publication."
We're not talking about inject Heroin from the streets (although Heroin or diacetylmorphine obtained from a hospital would be perfectly safe to use neglecting the possible addictive consequences) or smoking freebase cocaine. Psychedelics are the least harmful class of drugs by far; I can see their legalization in the next few decades as very likely given current changing attitudes. All it takes is education- without education, the myths will continue to propagate endlessly.
If any of you are interested in this class of drugs but are unsure of how to obtain them, I highly suggest the research chemicals such as 2C-e, 2C-i, or any others in the 2C-x family. These can be ordered from the internet with ease and with complete legality.
Growing up, I was pretty much a goody-goody. I never really did anything bad and never wanted to. Then I graduated from high school. I started actually going out to parties and hanging out with friends I thought I would never hang out with from high school.
I smoked weed on a social basis for about 3 years. I stopped after getting a serious bronchial infection from smoking almost $100+ worth of marijuana with my cousins before we went to go see a WCW wrestling match. Yes, I once liked wrestling. After being sick for over a week with coughing up so much mucous than I thought humanly possible, I couldn't really do it again.
Sometimes I get curious on trying pot brownies, but haven't really had the opportunity, nor did I feel like spending money on it.
Also during those 3 years of mary jane, I started going to raves. I became a raver-girl. The first time I took E, I think I dropped 3 hits that night. It was marvelous. I had such an amazing time at the rave especially when I got to touch people and be touched. I specifically remember this really hot buff jock-looking guy. He didn't seem to be the type who would be at a rave, and was wearing those form-fitting shirts. His arms were as if they were sculpted by Michelangelo. I went up to him and started touching his arm. He looked at me, with an amused expression, flexed his arm and told me to feel it again. Heaven. Fucking heaven, I tell you.
I went to raves for about a year or so, and everytime I went I would at least have one hit of E. I also would join others in wearing those face masks and putting Vicks Vapo Rub in them to inhale to increase the high. People would also take those Vicks Inhalers and blow through them on people's faces. It felt surprisingly wonderful. I also realized why ravers would be sucking on pacifiers and have Jolly Ranchers with them all the time. It made you want to grind your teeth and suck on something. I then invested in pacifiers. I remember always going to raves, wearing "candy" that I traded with other people, also wearing my Sailor Moon backpack and my awesome wide baggy pants with a rainbow colored-cloth sewn along the sides.
I forgot why I stopped going to raves, but since I stopped going, I stopped doing E. I don't regret it. It was a good memory, and I also discovered A LOT of awesome music that I never knew existed.
I also once had 'shrooms with tea at a friends house. That stuff was pretty hilarious. We were watching MAD TV after trying them, and I felt that everything I was doing was in slow-motion. After seeing something funny, I would want to laugh immediately, but the laughter wouldn't come out until a minute later. I also remember seeing weird things move on the plain white walls. It was a trip, but still fun.
I don't think I would ever smoke marijuana again for the fact that smoke really bothers me now. I do sometimes think about trying out E and maybe in 'shrooms again, but I never do because I end up thinking to myself it's not worth spending the money on.
Like Pete, my poisons are now caffeine and alcohol.
I know my stories are silly and sound like something a stupid young kid would do, but I was a stupid young kid at the time. I'm just grateful that nothing truly bad happened to me during those times of experimentation.
I really don't care if people do drugs. That's their decision. At least inform yourself of the possible side effects before taking anything.
However, I am very intrigued by the idea of synesthesia and would like to experience it.
(More posting later)
Perhaps, when I really have a lot of extra money to burn. :P
I still am curious about taking E and having relations. >.>
You and Funfetus are two people that I greatly respect on this forum, and I know others do too, so I hope that by having conversations like this it will help people to realize that their stigmas really aren't as true as they originally thought.