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Online video forced to use captions

edited October 2010 in Technology
A bombshell law was passed recently. 21st Century Communications and Video Accessibility Act does many things, one of the most important is that it is now REQUIRED to have a caption file to any online video that has sound. For podcasters since there is no video you are exempt from this, but if you have a video with audio running at the same time (see youtube) you need to add captions.

Anyone know of any free programs for people to do this or even any tricks to get it to work in multiple formats? Your thoughts on this law that has passed? Any general ideas on it completely?
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  • Well, no-one's going to abuse the ever-living fuck out of this one.
  • Does they law state that the captions have to be correct? In English? ^_~
  • Wait, what if it's live?
  • Well, either it's a huge pain in the ass, or we risk marginalising a large section of the population.

    In other news, I've had to turn off Chrome's spellcheck after it kept crashing pages when I try to have it use English instead of American English.
  • Wait, what if it's live?
    Kill it.
  • Does they law state that the captions have to be correct? In English? ^_~
    That would be correct, english only
  • The things that stick out from the description given are as follows
    the “Twenty-first Century Communications and Video Accessibility Act,” when passed would update the Communications Act
    And
    Video Description and Closed Captioning.
    This section also adds a definition for video programming to include programming provided by, or generally considered comparable to programming provided by, a television broadcast station, even when distributed over the Internet. This will make sure that existing closed captioning obligations (and future video description obligations) apply to television-like video programming that is distributed or re-distributed over the Internet.
    First has this actually passed? the LOC lists the last major action on this bill that it was put on the Senate Calendar. (8/5/2010 Read twice. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 513.) and second, Television like programming seems to be aimed more at regular television shows, like sit-coms, dramas and other such regular programming. People one offing stuff on YouTube shouldn't™ be applicable.
    But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong
  • See this. It was just recently signed.
  • Television like programming seems to be aimed more at regular television shows, like sit-coms, dramas and other such regular programming. People one offing stuff on YouTube shouldn't™ be applicable.
    Ahhh, but vaguely worded and poorly-thought-out laws pass all the time, only to be later enforced against all good intentions.

    The real solution is simple. All content on the Internet produced and distributed domestically by companies that make more than x dollars per year from said content and directly related businesses alone should have to comply with accessibility requirements. It should be fully optional under this threshold.
  • Seethis.It was just recently signed.
    Thanks! mmm Wonderful stuff that, so Google moves youtube hosting offshore? /shrug
  • edited October 2010
    Does it actually say all video of the "We'll enforce it when we feel like it." variety?

    A better way to do this would be mandating the abillity for people to add subtitles to their video.
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  • Harsh as it may seem, required accessibility for published media made sense when the barrier to publishing was high. For a large production, the cost of providing accessible formats is low compared to the overall cost of production.

    But for small/hobbyist creators, the cost of captioning can be far greater than the combined cost of content creation. I haven't read the text of the law, but it's been on the horizon for a while, and is likely poorly written. My guess is that there will be an Internet hubub in a week or two, which will die down after the last Slashdot article on the subject. The law will then be ignored for a while by small publishers and content creators until, maybe a year from now, someone sues Youtube. It will be yet another of the many myriad laws that citizens will routinely break without punishment but nonetheless will remain laws, amplifying the sad state of our society where a motivated law enforcement officer is practically guaranteed to be able to find something illegal in your life should they require it.

    I'm surprised the Internet didn't rabble sooner. Still, no one will until all the aggregators run their inevitable fear-stories on the legislation. I can practically see the future, in that the content of the posts on Fark and Slashdot are obvious enough that I could likely write a predictive engine, capable of recreating an article and comments from the future.
  • Machines that could write news would be interesting, could probably do a better job of it too. It would also be a step towards the automated research assistant Thaed wants.
  • Actual Text of the Bill

    There is a subsecion under Video Description and Close Captioning that reads
    (E) The regulations shall not apply to live or near-live programming.
    And another that makes me wonder
    shall only apply to video programming that is transmitted for display on television with closed captioning after the effective date of the regulations issued pursuant to this section.
    All this back referencing seems to me to be a bit much. Wouldn't it be simpler to just repeal the old law and then make the full text of the new Law be the modified version? /sigh
  • But for small/hobbyist creators, the cost of captioning can be far greater than the combined cost of content creation. I haven't read the text of the law, but it's been on the horizon for a while, and is likely poorly written.
    Not so much, actually:
    `(2) MODIFICATIONS TO REINSTATED REGULATIONS- Such regulations shall be modified only as follows:
    `(A) The regulations shall apply to video programming, as defined in subsection (i), insofar as such programming is transmitted for display on television in digital format.
    `(B) The Commission shall update the list of the top 25 Designated Market Areas, the list of the top 5 national nonbroadcast networks that have at least 50 hours per quarter of prime time programming that is not exempt under this paragraph, and the designation of the beginning calendar quarter for which compliance shall be calculated.
    `(C) The regulations may permit a provider of video programming or a program owner to petition the Commission for an exemption from the requirements of this section upon a showing that the requirements contained in this section would be economically burdensome.
    `(D) The Commission may exempt from the regulations established pursuant to paragraph (1) a service, class of services, program, class of programs, equipment, or class of equipment for which the Commission has determined that the application of such regulations would be economically burdensome for the provider of such service, program, or equipment.
    `(E) The regulations shall not apply to live or near-live programming.
    `(F) The regulations shall provide for an appropriate phased schedule of deadlines for compliance.
    Here's the bill.
  • Ha, I love people commenting on bills they haven't personally read....
  • Ha, I love people commenting on bills they haven't personally read....
    Just wait for the hubub. It'll be just like when the "Abandoned Copyright" storm blew over.
  • Here is the problem with some online video ventures: they CAN be viewed on TV. If you have any device connected to the tv that can access the internet (Roku, Wii, Google Tv, etc) and they watch your video then you are broadcasting on TV. As for if this is going to be strictly enforced time will tell however the chance to have someone like James Rolfe or Doug Walker is a risk they can not afford to take.
  • Here is the problem with some online video ventures: they CAN be viewed on TV. If you have any device connected to the tv that can access the internet (Roku, Wii, Google Tv, etc) and they watch your video then you are broadcasting on TV. As for if this is going to be strictly enforced time will tell however the chance to have someone like James Rolfe or Doug Walker is a risk they can not afford to take.
    I'm not sure that follows entirely. Just because it can be viewed on TV does not mean you are broadcasting on TV. I guess I am being a bit strict with the semantical difference. As a content provider I can not control what you view my product with. But if I am broadcasting over the television airwaves or distributing the program through the cable network I intend for that to be viewed on a television.
  • Here is the problem with some online video ventures: they CAN be viewed on TV. If you have any device connected to the tv that can access the internet (Roku, Wii, Google Tv, etc) and they watch your video then you are broadcasting on TV. As for if this is going to be strictly enforced time will tell however the chance to have someone like James Rolfe or Doug Walker is a risk they can not afford to take.
    They don't have to enforce it, though. They are specifically allowed to exempt programming if enforcing the regulation would be burdensome.

    I doubt the federal government gives a shit about AVGN or CineMassacre. They might care about the online content provided by major networks.
  • Closed captions for porn?
  • Closed captions for porn?
    Why bother, when Porn for the deaf already exists. (NSFW, bloody obviously)

    Don't worry - Blind people are not left out either.
  • Kinda gives a new perspective as to why YouTube put in that shitty auto-CC button. Probably a preemptive, "cover our asses just in case" solution when they saw this legislation coming through.
  • Blind people are not left out either.
    Oh god what. The production values are so horrible. They're just stating what the web page looks like and what happens in the video! Not only that, but the way they talk so matter-of-factly...dear god, I'm already listening to the fourth one now.
  • I'm pretty sure that YouTube isn't affected by this (unless they're showing TV shows, which some stations are doing) - It seems to be targeting sites like Hulu and TheDailyShow.com, where televised content which already had CC is now being streamed online.
  • Oh god what. The production values are so horrible. They're just stating what the web page looks like and what happens in the video! Not only that, but the way they talk so matter-of-factly...dear god, I'm already listening to the fourth one now.
    I never said it was good. Or that I looked any harder than literally typing "Porn for blind people" into google. But good lord, they're bad.
  • You know, that's interesting. We have five senses, sight, hearing, smell, taste, and touch. I know people who can't smell. I know deaf people. I know blind people.

    I've never heard of a person without taste. Obviously losing smell diminishes taste greatly, but the tastebuds still do something. They aren't completely lost. I've also never heard of a person with no touch.

    At least deaf and blind people can have sex just the same as everyone else. Blind people might actually be way better at sex, since they have no concern for physical appearance, and only how it feels. I think that would make up for any lack of good porn.
  • Does this mean Netflix streaming will have to add captions?
  • Does this mean Netflix streaming will have to add captions?
    It doesn't have them already? All the movies they show have captions on the DVDs.
  • At least deaf and blind people can have sex just the same as everyone else.
    Oh god, the stories I've heard about deaf sex in the RIT dorms...
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