basically the vibe I am getting is that apple naysayers don't like apple's image because it disagrees with their non-conformist persona. It would seem that iPad2 is technically better in every way.
basically the vibe I am getting is that apple naysayers don't like apple's image because it disagrees with their non-conformist persona. It would seem that iPad2 is technically better in every way.
basically the vibe I am getting is that apple naysayers don't like apple's image because it disagrees with their non-conformist persona. It would seem that iPad2 is technically better in every way.
I have a issue with the way iOS handles notifications (emails, txts, etc). But for a tablet, those issues are not relevant. If you have already bought into Apple's way of doing things, then the iPad is the logical choice.
That episode is so old as to be completely irrelevant (Palm OS is dead). The android of today is a massive improvement over the android of a year ago.
You're actually quite wrong: the conversation we are having today is exactly the conversation we were having on that fateful podcast. (Which I should note was recorded less than a year ago.)
You claim the Android of yesteryear is far different than today's. Pray-tell how? We can't begin to have a conversation about Android 3.0; there is no third-party support outside of certain 3D games. The rest of your applications are simply comedically expanded to fill the space of your new tablet.
On the topic of Android 2.x: Does it still sport a woefully underutilized junk-drawer? (Why does the Android music app not have play controls in the pulldown?) Are applications still a usability clusterf*** (see: copy-paste before 2.3) that are quick to lag compliments of an aggressive garbage collector and a less-than-aggressive backgrounding service? (lookin at you Twitter on Galaxy S) Are OEMs still holding back the entire platform with broken software and lack of updates to fix these issues (Samsung x1000). Check, check and check.
The iPad 2 is a nice incremental update. The Xoom is an overpriced and underwhelming show-piece for early adopters. The Playbook will serve BB faithful well without bringing much to the table. The HPalm tablet is probably the most exciting thing on the horizon.
Edit: It's actually worth noting that this response was tapped out on an iPad, which has served me quite well as a portable, cellular-connected, all-day computing device at GDC.
A former client of mine bought me an iPad a few months ago, and I'm quite enjoying it. I don't think it's worth the $500+ Apple is selling it for, but I definitely use it. It's GREAT for comics (cbr/cbz), and for RSS/Instapaper/ebooks. I also find myself hauling it around when the only work I need to do is emailing. Sometimes I'll ssh into my servers for updates, but I couldn't see myself doing any real coding on it (unless/until it gets a really good syntax-highlighting, git-and-dropbox-using text editor).
As for the iPad 2, it's an incremental improvement (like Apple is wont to do). Firmware upgrades that add functionality are the only thing I'm really excited about. Also, with iOS 4.3 (or a jailbroken phone), it's easy to tether an wifi-only iPad with your phone's 3/4G connection, making the 3G iPad kind of unnecessary.
I noticed "wifi updating and downloading of any content on iOS 4.3". Does this mean I can get new podcasts onto my iPhone without synching to my laptop? If so... cool!
I noticed "wifi updating and downloading of any content on iOS 4.3". Does this mean I can get new podcasts onto my iPhone without synching to my laptop? If so... cool!
Does this mean I can get new podcasts onto my iPhone without synching to my laptop?
You've always been able to download things via Wi-Fi. Wireless syncing, however, this is not. I have no fucking clue why Apple does not do that when it' so technically trivial. They mean you can stream from any iDevice to another with the iTunes home sharing. Not all that useful.
*EDIT* I found a excerpt from Apples site about the Home Share...
"Now you can play your entire iTunes library from anywhere in the house. If it’s on your Mac or PC, you can play it on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch over a shared Wi-Fi network.3 And not just music. Watch a movie or TV show. Play a podcast. Or listen to an audiobook. On whichever device you want — without having to download or sync."
Without downloading or syncing = streaming. Fucking Apple.
I noticed "wifi updating and downloading of any content on iOS 4.3". Does this mean I can get new podcasts onto my iPhone without synching to my laptop? If so... cool!
Now you can play your entire iTunes library from anywhere in the house. If it’s on your Mac or PC, you can play it on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch over a shared Wi-Fi network.3 And not just music. Watch a movie or TV show. Play a podcast. Or listen to an audiobook. On whichever device you want — without having to download or sync.
My Samsung Captivate has been able to handle almost every video I've thrown at it with the stock video player, including .mkv files and 720p rips. There are also a plethora of free video player apps that let you view subtitles in files (woohoo anime!) and things like that the stock player can't do.
As far as syncing goes, Winamp is great and allows for syncing interchangeably via USB and wifi. The Winamp homescreen widget (which is much more convenient than the double-tap-swipe combo on the iPhone) is great too.
I've generally had a better audio/video experience with my android phone than I did when I had an iPhone. That includes being able to use apps like Google Listen for podcast management.
I have been downloading podcasts directly to my phone for over a year. There is a $0.99 app in the iOS store called Podcaster. Even lets you download (slowly) over 3G and supposrts background downloading.
As for the comment about iPad being great for old people and kids, I agree with the old people part but am sort of scared about kids growing up with one. Will a generation of people growing up on Apple not have any curiosity about how their technology works?
As for the comment about iPad being great for old people and kids, I agree with the old people part but am sort of scared about kids growing up with one. Will a generation of people growing up on Apple not have any curiosity about how their technology works?
As for the comment about iPad being great for old people and kids, I agree with the old people part but am sort of scared about kids growing up with one. Will a generation of people growing up on Apple not have any curiosity about how their technology works?
As for the comment about iPad being great for old people and kids, I agree with the old people part but am sort of scared about kids growing up with one. Will a generation of people growing up on Apple not have any curiosity about how their technology works?
Yes.
Job security for us?
Nope. We already have job security since supply is way less than demand, and CS enrollment numbers are in the shitter.
Will a generation of people growing up on Apple not have any curiosity about how their technology works?
I have no interest in how my mouse works. I have no interest in how my screen works. I have no interest in how my DVD burner works. I have no interest in how Final Cut works. I have no interest in how my Magic Touchpad works. I have no interest in how my iPhone works.
Does that stop me from making awesomeness? No. I make awesomeness.
A kid growing up with an iPad and not a desktop will be MORE able to make awesomeness, not less. It's like complaining that people don't know how to make quills out of feathers, and then wondering if it will effect their life in any way.
I have no interest in how my mouse works. I have no interest in how my screen works. I have no interest in how my DVD burner works. I have no interest in how Final Cut works. I have no interest in how my Magic Touchpad works. I have no interest in how my iPhone works.
You're not interested, but if you knew then your possibilities would be expanded.
For a simple example, think about all the people who have made musical instruments out of old drives. If you knew how your shit worked, then this kind of creativity becomes an option. Also, how any of those things work is actually really simple, and I could explain each one in just a few minutes.
I realize that it will put better creative tools into more people hands, and I'm not sounding dire alarms that people won't ever decide to be computer scientists or engineers because someone gave them an iPad when they were little.
I simply mean that if iOS were to become the dominant computing platform, it would tip the balance a bit. A certain percentage of people "on the fence" at younger ages would start down creative rather than technical paths. Sure, there would be kids who see a great app and want to learn how to write apps, but my (pure speculation) tells me this wouldn't be as common as in the previous generation. Eventually, this would slow technological progress a bit.
Sure, there would be kids who see a great app and want to learn how to write apps
Even then, writing apps for iOS is pretty high level stuff.
Conspiracy theory time:
Using Windows, Linux, or OSX you have the tools available to you to build a competitor to Windows, Linux, or OSX. You can make your own OS on a Mac. You can't build any software on iOS whatsoever. If a majority of people only have devices wit iOS-like systems, then it's a huge step backwards. With PCs in every home, for which we have Bill Gates to thank, people are empowered to change the world from their living room. That potential will disappear if people abandon "real" computers.
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You claim the Android of yesteryear is far different than today's. Pray-tell how? We can't begin to have a conversation about Android 3.0; there is no third-party support outside of certain 3D games. The rest of your applications are simply comedically expanded to fill the space of your new tablet.
On the topic of Android 2.x: Does it still sport a woefully underutilized junk-drawer? (Why does the Android music app not have play controls in the pulldown?) Are applications still a usability clusterf*** (see: copy-paste before 2.3) that are quick to lag compliments of an aggressive garbage collector and a less-than-aggressive backgrounding service? (lookin at you Twitter on Galaxy S) Are OEMs still holding back the entire platform with broken software and lack of updates to fix these issues (Samsung x1000). Check, check and check.
The iPad 2 is a nice incremental update. The Xoom is an overpriced and underwhelming show-piece for early adopters. The Playbook will serve BB faithful well without bringing much to the table. The HPalm tablet is probably the most exciting thing on the horizon.
Edit: It's actually worth noting that this response was tapped out on an iPad, which has served me quite well as a portable, cellular-connected, all-day computing device at GDC.
As for the iPad 2, it's an incremental improvement (like Apple is wont to do). Firmware upgrades that add functionality are the only thing I'm really excited about. Also, with iOS 4.3 (or a jailbroken phone), it's easy to tether an wifi-only iPad with your phone's 3/4G connection, making the 3G iPad kind of unnecessary.
I might have interpreted that line wrong.
*EDIT* I found a excerpt from Apples site about the Home Share...
"Now you can play your entire iTunes library from anywhere in the house. If it’s on your Mac or PC, you can play it on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch over a shared Wi-Fi network.3 And not just music. Watch a movie or TV show. Play a podcast. Or listen to an audiobook. On whichever device you want — without having to download or sync."
Without downloading or syncing = streaming. Fucking Apple.
*SECOND EDIT* FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
As far as syncing goes, Winamp is great and allows for syncing interchangeably via USB and wifi. The Winamp homescreen widget (which is much more convenient than the double-tap-swipe combo on the iPhone) is great too.
I've generally had a better audio/video experience with my android phone than I did when I had an iPhone. That includes being able to use apps like Google Listen for podcast management.
As for the comment about iPad being great for old people and kids, I agree with the old people part but am sort of scared about kids growing up with one. Will a generation of people growing up on Apple not have any curiosity about how their technology works?
Does that stop me from making awesomeness? No. I make awesomeness.
A kid growing up with an iPad and not a desktop will be MORE able to make awesomeness, not less. It's like complaining that people don't know how to make quills out of feathers, and then wondering if it will effect their life in any way.
If you mean that there will be no kids interested in how stuff works then I would beg to differ.
EDIT: damn you luke.
For a simple example, think about all the people who have made musical instruments out of old drives. If you knew how your shit worked, then this kind of creativity becomes an option.
Also, how any of those things work is actually really simple, and I could explain each one in just a few minutes.
I simply mean that if iOS were to become the dominant computing platform, it would tip the balance a bit. A certain percentage of people "on the fence" at younger ages would start down creative rather than technical paths. Sure, there would be kids who see a great app and want to learn how to write apps, but my (pure speculation) tells me this wouldn't be as common as in the previous generation. Eventually, this would slow technological progress a bit.
Conspiracy theory time:
Using Windows, Linux, or OSX you have the tools available to you to build a competitor to Windows, Linux, or OSX. You can make your own OS on a Mac. You can't build any software on iOS whatsoever. If a majority of people only have devices wit iOS-like systems, then it's a huge step backwards. With PCs in every home, for which we have Bill Gates to thank, people are empowered to change the world from their living room. That potential will disappear if people abandon "real" computers.