I think you guys are taking this a little seriously. They prologued the topic by explaining that they weren't qualified to talk about what they were about to talk about. From there it's what makes geeknights great, you're overhearing two friends chatting enthusiastically. As long as that disclaimer is there no harm is done.
I've had Italian pizza. A friend of the family runs a shop in Chicago specializing in made-to-order, from-scratch Roman pizza. What I can tell you (and what she and her son would agree upon) is this: Pizza from the US (what I meant in the above statement) might as well be a different food from true Italian pizza. They are similar in name and certain ingredients only.
If it isn't from NYC or Chicago, it isn't pizza.
Do I hear a No-True-Scotsman? Anyways, you haven't tasted a Papa Gino's pizza. It's so good and the slices are as big as your face.
Fair play. I'll grab a slice if I see one next time I pass through that area.
I got a few minutes into the main part of this episode and stopped. Scott was being annoying, and from this thread I took it that it wasn't going to get better. I'm sure this thread was more interesting than the episode itself, so I consider it time well saved.
Rym.say("Hey, wanna do a show about X?"); Scott.scowl(); Scott.say("No one cares about X, and the show would be five minutes long. How could we talk about X for an hour?"); Rym.say("You really have so little to say about X?"); Scott.say(Scott.generateOversimplifiedOpinion(X)); Scott.say("X is a stupid topic for a show.")
Political conversations go about the same:
for X in { all possible political topics } :
Rym.say("Hey, what do you think about X?"); Scott.scowl(); Scott.say("No one cares about X, which itself is old news."); Rym.say("You really have so little to say about X?"); Scott.say(Scott.generateOversimplifiedOpinion(X)); Scott.say("X is a stupid topic, as are people who care about it.")
That's like my friend's shop; he's from a family of Italian immigrants, and they import all their ingredients. You order a pizza at the bar, and they have the same type of "36-hour dough" and make pizzas until it runs out. Fantastic. One of the best things I've ever eaten.
Still, Neapolitan and Roman pizza is an entirely different creature from American pizza, from the crushed tomatoes and buffalo mozzarella to the woodburning ovens and dough.
Us here in central NY would like to have a word with you. Come visit, I'll take you Tony's, all 43 of them, and then we can move onto some of the other places as well before you end up making more overly broad statements.
Still, Neapolitan and Roman pizza is an entirely different creature from American pizza, from the crushed tomatoes and buffalo mozzarella to the woodburning ovens and dough.
Also the water used. Holy shit does the water make a difference. Also, if you are not eating it with a knife and fork, you're doing it wrong.
Different kinds of pizza are fine. There are only a few kinds of pizza that I will say are fairly objectively bad as food.
1. Sbarro's style pizza (thick, heavy, wet, greasy, cooked on those grated pans, and warmed under a heat lamp. 2. All pizza available within 20 miles of the center of Albany, NY. 3. All pizza available in the state of Arizona.
I find it funny that we once ACCIDENTALLY ordered from a Godfather's Pizza that was attached to a gas station AND the guy who started that company is running for President as a republican. (and his pizza was pretty bad)
1. Sbarro's style pizza (thick, heavy, wet, greasy, cooked on those grated pans, and warmed under a heat lamp.
I've had decent Sbarro's pizza, the trick is figure out which Pizza has just been put out and get the stuffed pizza :-p (it's still super wet and Greasy though)
Ate at a dive diner outside a convention in Rochester with ScoJo once. He wisely ordered an egg sandwich, while I foolishly ordered some pepperoni and sausage pizza.
The four cheese Red Baron microwave was like a dream compared to this thing.
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Also, New Haven pizza is best pizza.
Anyways, you haven't tasted a Papa Gino's pizza. It's so good and the slices are as big as your face.
I wouldn't call what Chicago does pizza. It's fine in its own right, but so far from what I grew up with that I consider it a different dish entirely.
Most conversations:
for X in { all possible topics } :
Rym.say("Hey, wanna do a show about X?");
Scott.scowl();
Scott.say("No one cares about X, and the show would be five minutes long. How could we talk about X for an hour?");
Rym.say("You really have so little to say about X?");
Scott.say(Scott.generateOversimplifiedOpinion(X));
Scott.say("X is a stupid topic for a show.")
Political conversations go about the same:
for X in { all possible political topics } :
Rym.say("Hey, what do you think about X?");
Scott.scowl();
Scott.say("No one cares about X, which itself is old news.");
Rym.say("You really have so little to say about X?");
Scott.say(Scott.generateOversimplifiedOpinion(X));
Scott.say("X is a stupid topic, as are people who care about it.")
Still, Neapolitan and Roman pizza is an entirely different creature from American pizza, from the crushed tomatoes and buffalo mozzarella to the woodburning ovens and dough.
Also, if you are not eating it with a knife and fork, you're doing it wrong.
1. Sbarro's style pizza (thick, heavy, wet, greasy, cooked on those grated pans, and warmed under a heat lamp.
2. All pizza available within 20 miles of the center of Albany, NY.
3. All pizza available in the state of Arizona.
But most of it is still shit.
That was the second worst pizza I've ever had.
The four cheese Red Baron microwave was like a dream compared to this thing.