Have an example? Honestly most modern day production I've heard is pretty damn good, especially in the mainstream. Like most of that ASAP Rocky album thats pretty big now is just great.
Currently, we are in the same rut we were in in the '80s. Music is over-produced and a little bit trashy. There is very good music still being made (I can't link to Youtube now because I'm posting from school, but look up a band called Movits), but it's less popular than the big label big money artists. I'm sure we'll get out of it -- either through artistic change or economic -- but for now we'll have to look hard for high-quality contemporary music.
EDIT: Wasn't done, accidentally posted. The big difference is that now with audio editing software and the internet to be used for sharing, the mash-up has risen. Songs that are completely derivative of other songs, but become separate works unto themselves. These can be very good, but whether or not they're an artistic revolution or not is yet to be determined.
Your view of music is way too narrow. I defy you to tell me how anything on the Elephant 6, Warp, Paw Tracks, Planet X, or 4AD labels can even remotely meet any of the standards you just mentioned.
When I was a punk kid in high school, I thought the best music had already been made. I thought that the Dead Kennedys did punk rock better than anyone else, that the Beatles had said all their was to say about love, and that Frank Zappa was the trippiest, jazziest motherfucker out there. And then around sophomore year I fell in with a bunch of people who really knew music (one of whom would go on to become a music journalist) and they blew my mind with the stuff they introduced me to. There's nothing trippier than AnCo's Fireworks! The Dead Kennedys (and I do love them) never cut a track half as gougingly, hatefully bitter and rebellious as some of AJJ's tracks or Shellac's 1000 Hurts. And love songs? of Montreal said it better on Hissing Fauna... than the Beatles ever did.
I hesistate to say any time in music is a Golden Age, but holy shit, so much good, innovative material is breaking right now that you're an idiot to pass it up and think we're in a "rut."
You can't judge all music by the radio, man. Go out and search for some good music that's coming out these days. Hell, start with Pitchfork or /mu/. At least then you'll have seen some of what I'm talking about (despite their endless pretentiousness) instead of basing your ideas on a tiny sample set that doesn't nearly represent what the best artists are doing.
Damn WUB you kind of just flipped the coin over there dude. I'd just leave it at that theres really never a pinnacle to any art form, its always being revised, improved, and worsened constantly.
Damn WUB you kind of just flipped the coin over there dude. I'd just leave it at that theres really never a pinnacle to any art form, its always being revised, improved, and worsened constantly.
I didn't say their way a pinnacle. I just said that we're not in a rut and that a lot of current stuff is, in my opinion, superior to the older stuff. The former is objective, the latter a matter of taste.
That was probably my brother, TheWhaleShark, and yah I was really into noise for a while! He got me a limited edition carved marble case copy of Metamorphosis for Xmas one year, still love that thing ahaha
That was probably my brother, TheWhaleShark, and yah I was really into noise for a while! He got me a limited edition carved marble case copy of Metamorphosis for Xmas one year, still love that thing ahaha
I have to say, that case is one of the coolest ways to package things I've ever seen.
Oh wow this thread is all manners of awesome, so much music, perhaps not avant garde to some, but to me, hell yeah. I'll contribute a song from Tomorrow, In a Year, an album based off the Origin of Species by Darwin, one of the more kooky musics i have in my album. It was commissioned for an electronic opera by Hotel Pro.
Thanks for all the great music, got a few new bands to check out now
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When I was a punk kid in high school, I thought the best music had already been made. I thought that the Dead Kennedys did punk rock better than anyone else, that the Beatles had said all their was to say about love, and that Frank Zappa was the trippiest, jazziest motherfucker out there. And then around sophomore year I fell in with a bunch of people who really knew music (one of whom would go on to become a music journalist) and they blew my mind with the stuff they introduced me to. There's nothing trippier than AnCo's Fireworks! The Dead Kennedys (and I do love them) never cut a track half as gougingly, hatefully bitter and rebellious as some of AJJ's tracks or Shellac's 1000 Hurts. And love songs? of Montreal said it better on Hissing Fauna... than the Beatles ever did.
I hesistate to say any time in music is a Golden Age, but holy shit, so much good, innovative material is breaking right now that you're an idiot to pass it up and think we're in a "rut."
You can't judge all music by the radio, man. Go out and search for some good music that's coming out these days. Hell, start with Pitchfork or /mu/. At least then you'll have seen some of what I'm talking about (despite their endless pretentiousness) instead of basing your ideas on a tiny sample set that doesn't nearly represent what the best artists are doing.
If you like noise and stuff like Animal Collective, you should look into Lightning Bolt, Man or Astroman?, and Brainiac.
Thanks for all the great music, got a few new bands to check out now