I live in a pro-gun state and the vast majority of it is quite rural. I once interviewed for a job as a web developer for a position at Midway. My conversations there were pretty weird. They really wanted to confirm that you were an NRA supporter without directly asking the question. I was fairly honest with them (since I was gainfully employed elsewhere in town and didn't need the job). I'm not against firearms ownership, hunting, or sport shooting. I'm not conservative in general, and I support more intelligent regulations and conservation. I also kind of told them their website looked like shit (and they may have agreed, it looks like they improved it an order of magnitude since then) and that I didn't like being left alone in an eerie dark creepy room. Guess which job I didn't get?
Is it common knowledge which company you work for Butler?
I don't mean to pry, just curious if its already been brought up... but if not thats fine too.
I'm curious how gun makers are doing right now. I can imagine each one is at capacity filling demand, but I wonder if they are scaling back all R&D in case SHTF, or putting more emphasis on it to get new products out before any potential bans.
I'm curious to know as i would love to be a product designer at a firearms or weapon acessories company, (im currently doing the same in paintball) at least for a short stint, but seems the political climate could curb stomp those options. I mean sure military and police will always support new development... But I'm not sure all the variety of ideas and companies will be sustainable without a strong civilian market to take on some of the load.
My mom was in the market to sell one of her nice glocks. A lot of locals offered her above-market prices in cash to just sell it to them directly...
Yeah. That's the type of crap I'm talking about. Thankfully most gun shops are willing to do a background check for you for a modest fee. Recent legislation fixed said fee at "an amount not to exceed $10" in NYS.
@ Swatrous - I try to be vague about where I work to avoid any possible N.D.A. related drama. Search for firearms importers located in upstate NY and you'll probably be able to figure it out.
What I want is a system where a police officer can plug a serial number into his PDA and in 5 minutes get a picture and name of the firearm's owner. When that happens, legal owners have nothing to fear and the scum suckers can get what's coming to them.
Only 3 things would be needed to have that happen. 1.)A background check with every sale. 2.)Those records to be kept. 3.)The database infrastructure to be made.
Every background check has the serial # of the gun being sold and your drivers license #. Your license has your picture on it.
I got pulled over for expired tabs by the forest service a couple years ago. By the time he got to my window, he already knew my name and that I had a CDL endorsement on my license. If they can tie car registration to our licenses then I don't see how background checks would be hard to implement given they had the authority.
Come to think of it, if they just make the universal background checks, and saved all the records. There would be no need to force everyone to register their gun. Given years the problem would sort itself out, since every time someone sold a gun, it would go into the database. Only guns that people held onto and never sold would stay dark. And I don't think those are the ones being used in crimes.
So, remember that gun that could fire six rounds with a printed lower receiver? They improved the design. As of now it can fire 1000+ rounds, and they're still iterating it. We now have the technology to print relatively safe lower receivers, and they're only going to get cheaper and sturdier.
So, remember that gun that could fire six rounds with a printed lower receiver? They improved the design. As of now it can fire 1000+ rounds, and they're still iterating it. We now have the technology to print relatively safe lower receivers, and they're only going to get cheaper and sturdier.
Technically they are illegal to sell. So you would need to purchase a 3D printer or purchase the use of one to get one of those lowers.
Yeah, in a few years many gun laws won't even matter once the technology to easily produce them. I remember a few years ago hearing how some guy who lived in a very rural area (I want to say Wyoming) was getting some shit from the ATF because he was producing AR lowers and giving them to his friends and neighbors. I don't think they were drilled yet, so they weren't technically firearms. Otherwise he'd have been in "federal pound me in the ass prison" already.
My conversations there were pretty weird. They really wanted to confirm that you were an NRA supporter without directly asking the question.
When I was just out of high school, I finished interviews and was told I was hired for a maintenance position at a storage company. Then when filling out final paperwork they asked what church I went to. When I told them I did not go, they promptly told me they found someone else.
I'm curious how gun makers are doing right now. I can imagine each one is at capacity filling demand, but I wonder if they are scaling back all R&D in case SHTF, or putting more emphasis on it to get new products out before any potential bans.
From what I hear they are all at capacity. But I figure they all know how slowly the wheels of government turn and know any ban would not take immediate effect.
After Sandy Hook, the president was holding press conferences there would be laws passed by the end of January. And even know any changes are sometime in the unknowable future.
I do agree with you that designing accessories could be a fun job. If you managed to make everything you designed light, durable, and cheap to manufacture you would have a career for life. I don't see the civilian gun market degrading with gun regulation. People will just change the focus of their hobby from something like 3 gun to something like F class
It's legal to print a gun (technically) for use by yourself. It's illegal to sell a gun you have printed to someone else (without a permit). It's legal to buy a 3d printer to print a gun. Is it legal to rent a 3d printer for the express purpose of printing guns? What about paying someone (like Shapeways) for the use of their 3d printer?
It's legal to print a gun (technically) for use by yourself. It's illegal to sell a gun you have printed to someone else (without a permit). It's legal to buy a 3d printer to print a gun. Is it legal to rent a 3d printer for the express purpose of printing guns? What about paying someone (like Shapeways) for the use of their 3d printer?
1: True 2: True 3: True 4: As I understand it, you can rent time at a metal shop and make a receiver that way, but you can't pay them to do the work. I would expect 3D printing to work the same way.
So, remember that gun that could fire six rounds with a printed lower receiver? They improved the design. As of now it can fire 1000+ rounds, and they're still iterating it. We now have the technology to print relatively safe lower receivers, and they're only going to get cheaper and sturdier.
Not that surprising. Also not that new -- it's just the tech that's new. For example, the Pashtun people of Afghanistan and the Pakistani Tribal Regions are almost legendary for their ability to reverse engineer and build their own knock-offs of all sorts of modern weapons using relatively simple techniques and tools. The AK-47 in particular was one of their more common knock-offs. While it wasn't quite as good as the real thing, it was good enough for the average Mujahadeen or Taliban fighter who probably thought they'd achieve martyrdom if the thing blew up in their hands while firing it (which was rare enough that it was still a reasonably effective weapon).
Is using a 3D printer really comparable to using a metal shop? All the work is being done by the printer.
The metal shop requires more skills to be learned, as opposed to be downloaded, but in terms of what the government can regulate it's a little difficult.
"My arms are weapons of manufacturing weapons of mass destruction."
I figured that raw milk could lead to various issues with spreading GI illnesses, but TB? That's new to me. Not that I doubt it. It's just that I didn't/don't see the connection.
People kill people; not guns, if the user is educated they will never have a problem. The internet likes pointing out how drug prohibition has failed. Why will gun prohibition work.
People kill people; not guns, if the user is educated they will never have a problem. The internet likes pointing out how drug prohibition has failed. Why will gun prohibition work.
We're not talking complete prohibition. We're only talking about prohibiting guns from a subset of the population that is too ignorant, violent, or mentally unstable to own guns. An educated user is, barring sudden mental illness or other surprising loss of rationality, not likely to go on a killing spree with a gun. He/she is also not likely to give access to said gun to those who are likely to go on a killing spree. However, there is certainly a large population of uneducated users with guns out there who, even if they aren't going on killing sprees, are not undertaking the due diligence necessary to prevent their guns from being used on killing sprees, whether due to not securing them properly or not making sure the people purchasing their guns are neither insane nor violent.
Which is really a more sensible way to go about it. After all, think of Charles Whitman - Educated regarding firearms, but crazy as all hell. And none of the restrictions on modern firearms that people propose would have impeded him one iota. He killed 17 and injured 32, primarily with a bolt action rifle.
Most of the uneducated people who go on killing spree do not legally own the weapon. So banning them from owning is technically status quo and it doesn't work. A truly motivated person doesn't need a gun they can use their hands.
Most of the uneducated people who go on killing spree do not legally own the weapon. So banning them from owning is technically status quo and it doesn't work. A truly motivated person doesn't need a gun they can use their hands.
Yes, but it's much easier to kill 50 people in 15 minutes with a gun than with your hands.
Also the penalties for allowing people who have no business with a gun to have access to guns are non-existent. There really needs to be some serious liability reform for people who don't properly secure their guns, etc. It's one thing if a gun is stolen after being properly secured, but stealing a properly secured gun shouldn't be a trivial thing to accomplish anyway, thereby keeping all but the most persistent from even attempting to do so. It's the idiots that keep their guns unlocked in closets, nightstand drawers, and so on that are part of the problem.
How does the guy from FPS Russia get the automatic weapons for his videos?
Secondly, did anyone else listen to Biden on NPR this week talking about guns? When the reporter pressed him on the fact that assault weapon deaths are minor compared to handguns so why ban them he want on some wild analogy tangent about banning cigarettes to fight global warming. At that point the reporter seemed to realize Biden had nothing (you can hear the 'this guy is crazy' lilt In her voice) and awkwardly moved on.
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http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/14715658-418/chicago-gangs-dont-have-to-go-far-to-buy-guns.html
This was a few years ago but it shows people will work to get their hands on specifically handguns.
http://www.king5.com/news/Police-100-handguns-taken-from-WA-store-89313217.html
I don't mean to pry, just curious if its already been brought up... but if not thats fine too.
I'm curious how gun makers are doing right now. I can imagine each one is at capacity filling demand, but I wonder if they are scaling back all R&D in case SHTF, or putting more emphasis on it to get new products out before any potential bans.
I'm curious to know as i would love to be a product designer at a firearms or weapon acessories company, (im currently doing the same in paintball) at least for a short stint, but seems the political climate could curb stomp those options. I mean sure military and police will always support new development... But I'm not sure all the variety of ideas and companies will be sustainable without a strong civilian market to take on some of the load.
@ Swatrous - I try to be vague about where I work to avoid any possible N.D.A. related drama. Search for firearms importers located in upstate NY and you'll probably be able to figure it out.
1.)A background check with every sale.
2.)Those records to be kept.
3.)The database infrastructure to be made.
Every background check has the serial # of the gun being sold and your drivers license #. Your license has your picture on it.
I got pulled over for expired tabs by the forest service a couple years ago. By the time he got to my window, he already knew my name and that I had a CDL endorsement on my license. If they can tie car registration to our licenses then I don't see how background checks would be hard to implement given they had the authority.
Come to think of it, if they just make the universal background checks, and saved all the records. There would be no need to force everyone to register their gun. Given years the problem would sort itself out, since every time someone sold a gun, it would go into the database. Only guns that people held onto and never sold would stay dark. And I don't think those are the ones being used in crimes.
After Sandy Hook, the president was holding press conferences there would be laws passed by the end of January. And even know any changes are sometime in the unknowable future.
I do agree with you that designing accessories could be a fun job. If you managed to make everything you designed light, durable, and cheap to manufacture you would have a career for life. I don't see the civilian gun market degrading with gun regulation. People will just change the focus of their hobby from something like 3 gun to something like F class
It's legal to print a gun (technically) for use by yourself.
It's illegal to sell a gun you have printed to someone else (without a permit).
It's legal to buy a 3d printer to print a gun.
Is it legal to rent a 3d printer for the express purpose of printing guns? What about paying someone (like Shapeways) for the use of their 3d printer?
2: True
3: True
4: As I understand it, you can rent time at a metal shop and make a receiver that way, but you can't pay them to do the work. I would expect 3D printing to work the same way.
Edit: Ninja'd by Rym. Damn it.
"My arms are weapons of manufacturing weapons of mass destruction."
I need a PETE SIGNAL animated gif.
I need a PETE SIGNAL animated gif.
Also the penalties for allowing people who have no business with a gun to have access to guns are non-existent. There really needs to be some serious liability reform for people who don't properly secure their guns, etc. It's one thing if a gun is stolen after being properly secured, but stealing a properly secured gun shouldn't be a trivial thing to accomplish anyway, thereby keeping all but the most persistent from even attempting to do so. It's the idiots that keep their guns unlocked in closets, nightstand drawers, and so on that are part of the problem.
Secondly, did anyone else listen to Biden on NPR this week talking about guns? When the reporter pressed him on the fact that assault weapon deaths are minor compared to handguns so why ban them he want on some wild analogy tangent about banning cigarettes to fight global warming. At that point the reporter seemed to realize Biden had nothing (you can hear the 'this guy is crazy' lilt In her voice) and awkwardly moved on.