Who's in jail, hasn't been involved with any aspect since 2000, and cannot be legally forced to sell his shares. But don't let that stop you from using a logical fallacy for your argument.
Who's in jail, hasn't been involved with any aspect since 2000, and cannot be legally forced to sell his shares. But don't let that stop you from using a logical fallacy for your argument.
If a public event isn't selling out, then the method of selling tickets really doesn't matter since anyone who wants to go will be able to go.
If a sold out event like PAX tried Dragon Con's method, it would be disastrous. You would get a situation just like NFL season tickets where people are on a huge waiting list. Existing ticket holders get to renew every year, and new people can't get their seats unless they give them up. Most years only a handful, if any, seats go up while the waiting list has people in it who have been waiting their entire lives. The whole point of PAXes low prices, extra days, and multiple conventions is that they want everyone who wants some PAX to be able to get some PAX. Selling tickets at the event a year in advance is the exact opposite of that philosophy.
Dragon*Con allows you to purchase next year's tickets at the con itself. The only mad dash is for hotel rooms.
That's bullshit and backwards. You are giving priority attendance to people who are already at the convention, making it very difficult for people to go who were unable to go last year, or never able to go before. If anything, they should sell them far away from the convention at another place so if you go this year, it is very difficult for you to go next year.
I thought that the point of selling next years tickets at this years con was to ensure you get some of the same folks which aids in building a sense of continuity and community for the convention. I would think it's a useful metric for measuring attendee satisfaction as well.
I understand that those reasons aren't important for something like PAX, but it's a valid strategy for a smaller gathering, right?
Nah. In my opinion, conventions that have the same set attending every year stagnate and get increasingly boring over time. No new attendees means no new staff, no new ideas, and a slow, lingering death.
Nah. In my opinion, conventions that have the same set attending every year stagnate and get increasingly boring over time. No new attendees means no new staff, no new ideas, and a slow, lingering death.
I'll yield to your far superior con experience.
But... hasn't Connecticon been offering next year registration on sundays for years now? It seems to be doing ok. Is that an exception?
Yea the same people keep going to the convention it stagnates.. Sooo by that logic Rym and Scott should skip a few PAXes just to keep it fresh.
HAHA no. You forgot, the convention is FOR us. We want to see different people each time. If it's the same every year, we probably will get bored and stop going. So far, not.
Yea the same people keep going to the convention it stagnates.. Sooo by that logic Rym and Scott should skip a few PAXes just to keep it fresh.
HAHA no. You forgot, the convention is FOR us. We want to see different people each time. If it's the same every year, we probably will get bored and stop going. So far, not.
Technically that rule applies 200% to the entertainment even more so than the attendees. Maybe 50% to the staff.
On a more serious note, I'm not really sure a convention with 26k people can stagnate on a con-goer level. It definitely can stagnate on a staff/entertainment level.
Technically that rule applies 200% to the entertainment even more so than the attendees. Maybe 50% to the staff.
Interestingly, two different people in the organization basically told us that one of the reasons they keep bringing us back is that we bring fresh content every year. We rarely duplicate lectures, and basically have something new every PAX. Lately, we haven't even duped between Prime and East!
Technically that rule applies 200% to the entertainment even more so than the attendees. Maybe 50% to the staff.
Interestingly, two different people in the organization basically told us that one of the reasons they keep bringing us back is that we bring fresh content every year. We rarely duplicate lectures, and basically have something new every PAX. Lately, we haven't even duped between Prime and East!
We at least go through the trouble of remixing the same panel with different titles so it seems new.
I said it applies to entertainment, never said you guys were entertaining :-p
Obviously I said Entertainment can stagnant a convention quicker than the attendees, obviously you don't fit that and PAX doesn't have that problem "YET"
It's way too late for us to jump on board the PAX Prime wagon this year, but we've got a small group looking into PAX East 2014. It would be our first PAX experience. Though we've been searching through hotel rates, and the price shock is a little much considering we're used to hotels in our local city to run $150/night at most. Everyone's always talking about how great PAX is, but is it really worth it if you're not a hardcore gamer and you just play casually? My husband is obsessive, but I am mostly only obsessive on Pokemon, Mass Effect, and the Elder Scrolls and that's about it.
PAX is worth it at least once, but be careful, it is addictive. Bethesda will probably be demoing the Elder Scrolls Online again at Prime, and if it isn't out by East, it will be there too. The atmosphere is terrific and so fun. You can always look into an option of rooming with someone else to help lower the cost/person too. If you aren't bringing a lot of stuff (and that is usually reserved for the hardcore), then picking a hotel that is a bit of a walk or bus ride isn't a bad idea. There is a great deli that isn't too far away that is reasonably priced, and there are a few restaurants nearby that aren't too pricey as well.
Prime is looking more likely for me, as long as the job cooperates. Now that I am promoted I need to make sure I won't be too too busy. I wasn't sure how serious my wife was about me going out to Seattle for the extended PAX originally, but now we decided that her and the kid should fly down to see her mother who lives in Florida, do Disney and stuff. Now we're both equally excited for Labor Day weekend
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If a sold out event like PAX tried Dragon Con's method, it would be disastrous. You would get a situation just like NFL season tickets where people are on a huge waiting list. Existing ticket holders get to renew every year, and new people can't get their seats unless they give them up. Most years only a handful, if any, seats go up while the waiting list has people in it who have been waiting their entire lives. The whole point of PAXes low prices, extra days, and multiple conventions is that they want everyone who wants some PAX to be able to get some PAX. Selling tickets at the event a year in advance is the exact opposite of that philosophy.
Also, DragonCon suuuux. :P
I understand that those reasons aren't important for something like PAX, but it's a valid strategy for a smaller gathering, right?
But... hasn't Connecticon been offering next year registration on sundays for years now? It seems to be doing ok. Is that an exception?
On a more serious note, I'm not really sure a convention with 26k people can stagnate on a con-goer level. It definitely can stagnate on a staff/entertainment level.
Obviously I said Entertainment can stagnant a convention quicker than the attendees, obviously you don't fit that and PAX doesn't have that problem "YET"
http://prime.paxsite.com/news/the-registration-sellout-faq
http://apple.slashdot.org/story/13/04/25/2026214/wwdc-sells-out-in-2-minutes-ticket-on-ebay-45-minutes-later
Apple WWDC: Sold out in 2 minutes
Google I/O: Sold out in 45 minutes
Too late.
Everyone's always talking about how great PAX is, but is it really worth it if you're not a hardcore gamer and you just play casually? My husband is obsessive, but I am mostly only obsessive on Pokemon, Mass Effect, and the Elder Scrolls and that's about it.