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This will kill Blu-Ray

KilarneyKilarney
edited January 2007 in Technology
Unless there is a quick change of policy, it's time to invest in HD-DVD.

Blu-Ray will not allow porn!

One other note about the format wars:
The LG Hybrid player is supposed to be a full Blu-Ray player with a severly inflated price tag and crippled HD-DVD functionality. Not quite the solution we had hoped for.
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  • ThaedThaed
    If true, that's wrong on so many levels. Sony is one of the most control oriented companies on the planet. I was amazed, however, at how many of the comments on that site were praising Sony for the decision.

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  • tuttle88tuttle88
    I said earlier, you've got to follow the porn industry. Do they have no knowledge of the history of technology? I mean its not like Sony would have to produce the porn. Its may be a popular political decision but it isn't a good business decision.
  • HMTKSteveHMTKSteve
    Sony went down hill as soon as they got into the content creation/distribution business. Before that it was,

    "Check out this cool gadget that can record anything!"

    Now it's, "What will the lawyers say about this cool gadget that can...."
  • Void DragonVoid Dragon
    Sony Needs to get out of one business or the other. Making content and machines is killing them. The content division is just steamrolling the devices division with all these things they need to do, and they are spending so much time and effort doing it that everything they make is coming up crap.

    It's going to be VHS v Betamax all over again, with the crappier one winning because the better one is Sony being a control freak.
  • DaikunDaikun
    edited February 2008
    HD-DVD is finished.

    No more porn for you!
    Post edited by Daikun on
  • whateverwhatever
    Since when do people buy porn?
  • kage_rodkage_rod
    ...Yeah... When do they?

    You can find way better stuff online. O.o; way MORE too, especially if you know how the hell to do it!
  • OmnutiaOmnutia
    What percentage of people know how though?
  • am_dragonam_dragon
    I've paid close attention to the Blu-Ray Vs. HD-DVD war. HD-DVD said sure we'll allow porn, Sony said "No, way" then within a month they said "oh sorry, we meant Porn Yay". That article is old, there is or will be porn on Blu-Ray.

    What will kill Blu-Ray is the fact that for most people it's not a significant change in picture quality. First you have to buy an HDTV and don't forget way more than 1/2 the country doesn't have one. Then you have to have a screen large enough to discern the difference at standard viewing difference. Next you have to drop at least $400 dollars for a player, and finally buy or rebuy disks that are often 2x the price of standard def disks.

    I buy lots of moves (more than I should). I was worried for a while that I was wasting my money buying standard def disks. I picked up a $98 HD-DVD player and bought a couple HD-DVD. I personally don't think paying extra for the HD version of a movie is worth it. The Toshiba HD-A2 is a great upscaling DVD player and when you A/B an upscaled standard def disk and an HD disk there is a difference it's just not life altering. I guess that's when I realized much like video games, the picture quality (graphics) don't really matter. Movies like the Seven Samurai, and Citizen Kane are black and white, and have rough edges due to age, yet they remain among the greatest movies of all time.
  • OmnutiaOmnutia
    Also, I thought that the point of DVDs was that they were cheap.
  • Li_AkahiLi_Akahi
    I think both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are too ahead of their time and are mostly uneeded due to the lack of HD TVs in people's homes.
  • AndrewAndrew
    edited February 2008
    I've paid close attention to the Blu-Ray Vs. HD-DVD war. HD-DVD said sure we'll allow porn, Sony said "No, way" then within a month they said "oh sorry, we meant Porn Yay". That article is old, there is or will be porn on Blu-Ray.
    Did you even read the article Daikun posted? It had nothing to do with porn...
    Post edited by Andrew on
  • KieyKiey
    I think both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are too ahead of their time and are mostly uneeded due to the lack of HD TVs in people's homes.
    I agree that they are too early for practical release, but I think that there are enough people with HDTVs to keep Blu-Ray lingering around until its time for an HD disc format to become a bigger thing, but still most likely not replace DVD. At least not until they get the price of the discs lower.
  • ColdfireSergeColdfireSerge
    I agree with what I see as the point of a few of the recent posts. HD-DVD may be on the outs, but Blu Ray still has a large competitor in standard definition DVD. I have no reason to upgrade my system to play BR discs, and I don't see a high definition setup coming to my place any time soon.
  • zombie a gogozombie a gogo
    I can barely tell the difference between an upscaled DVD playing on my PS3 versus a Bluray disc. This is on a 1080p 40" Samsung.
  • ThaedThaed
    I can barely tell the difference between an upscaled DVD playing on my PS3 versus a Bluray disc. This is on a 1080p 40" Samsung.
    The PS3 is an amazing upscaling device. DVDs look great, but Blu-Ray movies look incredible.
  • zombie a gogozombie a gogo
    The average user is not going to notice enough difference to bother buying new equipment IMO. Remember the difference between VHS and DVD, this time around is no where near as big a difference.

    I may buy future releases in Bluray format, but I doubt I'll be converting my DVD collection over to it. Also, prices of the movies have to come way down as well...$30.00+ for a Bluray movie is sad.
  • AndrewAndrew
    I think it's going to get to the point where many of the video "techies" are going to go the audiophile route. We will call them videophiles....
  • DaveDave
    They already exist, they have for some time. Fortunately their madness, which mostly relates to whether LCDs or Plasma give the "Truer" black, is pretty self contained.
  • am_dragonam_dragon
    I'd like to add this point. Look at the number of people willing to watch something in "youtube quality" for free VS paying for High Def. Blu-Ray (or any HD format) has a long hard row to hoe before they win anything.
  • KieyKiey
    I think the advantage of Blu-ray won't be with playing movies, but rather with games (since there is so much space on them,) and also with TV shows (since you're able to fit a bunch more DVD quality episodes then you could normally fit on one disc.)
  • NeitoNeito
    but rather with games (since there is so much space on them,)
    Actually, alot of game makers prefered HD-DVD, from what I heard on Kotaku a few months ago. They said this was because BLU-RAY is so much slower than HD-DVD.
  • WallyBmanWallyBman
    As much as I hate the audiophiles, Dave, the "truer black" things is a noticeable difference in some cases. I can't watch my friend Eric's new cheap LCD for very long, because the "black" is "bright," and it actually hurts my eyes. My old Sony tv is easier to watch, and the black is pretty dark, even though it isn't completely black. But if I want to watch movies, I do it on my 360 hooked to my 22" wide-screen monitor via VGA plug. The 360 up-scaling is pretty damn good.
  • raquorraquor
    I'm guessing there will be a somewhat significant spike in HD technology purchases towards the end of this year in the U.S. with the coming of the Analog ban. That coupled with the continuing fall of LCD prices is going to continue to turn into profit for TV manufacturer's at a faster and faster rate.

    I very much want a nice flat panel HDTV, for various reasons not the least of which is the space saved over my current 36" CRT. I've been holding out and set a price point for myself. As soon as I can get a 40-42" 1080p Samsung (so far that's the brand I've liked the most) HDTV for under $1000 I'm buying. At the rate prices have been dropping I fully expect to be buying one near the end of the year or the very beginning of next year.
  • blaman327blaman327
    This post can now be officially ended as the format war just has. Toshiba has thrown in the HD-DVD towel. Digital Bits article
  • OmnutiaOmnutia
    edited February 2008
    It just occurred to me, how much is the amount of piracy on each platform going to affect things. I think Kotaku had something ages ago where a guy riped a BD and put it on an HDDVD. If the media gets cheap enough is there a possibility that HD piracy will take off?
    Post edited by Omnutia on
  • KieyKiey
    It just occurred to me, how much is the amount of piracy on each platform going to affect things. I think Kotaku had something ages ago where a guy riped a BD and put it on an HDDVD. If the media gets cheap enough is there a possibility that HD piracy will take off?
    Not until everyone has FIOS and 1TB hard drives in their computers.
  • AprecheApreche
    We live in a world where people buy non-HD LCD TVs, hook them up directly to analog cable and think they have HDTV, and say how great it looks. Most HDTVs out there are not even hooked up properly, and are only receiving normal 480 TV signals. People aren't going to switch from regular cheap old DVD to something new until they understand it.
  • NeitoNeito
    People aren't going to switch from regular cheap old DVD to something new until they understand it.
    Honestly, I think this contradicts
    We live in a world where people buy non-HD LCD TVs, hook them up directly to analog cable and think they have HDTV, and say how great it looks.
    People are going to buy something because it's new and shiny and pretty. Call my cynical, but I don't think people are going to care about whether they get it or not. They're just going to buy it cus it's the next big thing.
  • TechparadoxTechparadox
    edited February 2008
    We live in a world where people buy non-HD LCD TVs, hook them up directly to analog cable and think they have HDTV, and say how great it looks. Most HDTVs out there are not even hooked up properly, and are only receiving normal 480 TV signals. People aren't going to switch from regular cheap old DVD to something new until they understand it.
    I can understand your point, but by that logic most of the general populace should still be doing their work manually and not have computers or other electronic machines to help them out. Most consumers are sadly mis- or under- informed/educated when it comes to electronics and they go out and buy the newest toy on the block because of the marketing hype. The intelligent consumer is the one that learns more about the product until they understand it and then watches for the best deal. Unfortunately the general populace isn't made up of intelligent consumers, it's made up of people like Bobby Joe Redneck from BFE who wants one of "them thar Aich-Dee Tee-Vees" so he can watch his NASCAR in hi-def while yelling at his kid to bring him another beer, or Snooty McPerson who is the type who buys Monster cables for their setup because they think it makes the video more crisp.

    [[EDIT: Damn, Neito beat me to it.]]
    Post edited by Techparadox on
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