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Rym & Scott: Jerks, or regional variation? :)
Rym & Scott are quite opinionated.
After listening to many of their shows, I've gotten the impression that they have little tolerance for many types of people, although usually they will explain their lack of patience with fun anecdotes and interesting podcast bits. They also seem to have a fondness for rants, and an intense dislike for Other People's Problems.
Taken as a whole, they often come off sounding like jerks to my ears.
However, they are from New York, which stereotypes and the media have lead me to believe is a somewhat harsh place which requires a somewhat harsh personality if one wants to avoid getting dragged down. They are also doing a show, which is always more interesting when people are opinionated. Lastly, they are geeks, which historically have been known for having less than perfect scores in Skills: Diplomacy. (Class penalty, you know. :P)
What say you, forums?
With any luck, this will become as popular as my other favorite flamewar thread, "Why People Think Rym & Scott are Gay."
After listening to many of their shows, I've gotten the impression that they have little tolerance for many types of people, although usually they will explain their lack of patience with fun anecdotes and interesting podcast bits. They also seem to have a fondness for rants, and an intense dislike for Other People's Problems.
Taken as a whole, they often come off sounding like jerks to my ears.
However, they are from New York, which stereotypes and the media have lead me to believe is a somewhat harsh place which requires a somewhat harsh personality if one wants to avoid getting dragged down. They are also doing a show, which is always more interesting when people are opinionated. Lastly, they are geeks, which historically have been known for having less than perfect scores in Skills: Diplomacy. (Class penalty, you know. :P)
What say you, forums?
With any luck, this will become as popular as my other favorite flamewar thread, "Why People Think Rym & Scott are Gay."
Comments
There is a fine line between an asshole and one who speaks the plain truth; Rym and Scott crossed that line a long time ago.
But admit it, they're damn funny.
Remember that what Scrym puts out is opinion and could be lies.
A cool idea springs to mind. Could geeknights do a podcast conversation with someone who is reasonable but has opposite views on an issue such as religion or technology. Or, more entertainingly, a conversation with someone who is highly unreasonable and/or evangelical.
Note: I'm not advocating for any of this to actually happen. I'm just saying that, when you think they "come off sounding like jerks", remember that they're basically still punk kids. I would love to be on the show to talk to them about their misguided opinions regarding Lincoln. One of the worst people in the world because he suspended habeas? Fellas, if you haven't noticed, that's being done right now, but all you do is say, "Meh."
To the rest of you, I'm sorry if we hold our fellow humans to a higher standard than many of them are able or willing to attain. ^_~
I'm from the midwest. I only moved to downstate New York in recent years. ^_~
Believe me, I understand why a person would be disappointed in an executive who suspended habeas, but to call one who did it nearly 150 years ago one of the worst people in the world while ignoring the one who did it today is asymmetrical at best.
Believe me, I understand why a person would be disappointed in an executive who suspended habeas, but to call one who did it nearly 150 years ago one of the worst people in the world while ignoring the one who did it today is asymmetrical at best.
My beefs with Lincoln are greater than just that.
HOWEVER, I note that in general I tend to avoid large generalizations about modern or recent figures, only in that the scope of their merit (or lack thereof) is not yet fully known. I cannot pass absolute judgement of a man who yet lives, for he always until death has the chance to alter his course. I cannot form final opinion on a man who has lived recently, for I do not yet have the view of history to understand the full ramifications of his life. I have to hold my contemporaries to different standards from those of my ancestors, for I am too close to the affairs of my own life to be reasonably objective.
Bush is immune to my sweeping opinions on history due solely to the fact that I do not yet know the sum of the damage he will do. Just as a plane which, on fire, has already crashed, has the possibility of striking a rocket fuel tanker truck into an orphanage, so too does Bush have the possibility of causing far greater harm than we have yet seen or anticipated.
To be sure, I rather dislike him. ^_~
But in the analogy the plane crashed a long time ago, if you wanted to stop the crash, it could have been done in the last election. Right now I hope to see a sole survivor, from the wreckage, a chimpanzee who gets shot by either a woman or a minority male.
If Rym and Scott are jerks maybe you're just way too sensitive as they atleast back themselves up the majority of the time and it's quite clear when they're making jokes. I'm as opinionated as they are as are most on the forum.
Well even if they are assholes or bammas or fanboy/girl killers I still think they are a cesspool of pure geeky awesome.
It might be because they remind me of my friends Matt and Steve who are somewhat a black version of Rym and Scott.
It seems to me that Rym and Scott simply recognise that they're smarter and better than most people and aren't afraid to flaunt it.
I agree that they have little tolerance for many types of people but then most people don't deserve to be tolerated. Whether through accident or design, most people are idiots.
Of course they have an intense dislike for other people's problems. Other people’s problems are worthless and irritating unless they effect your enjoyment of life. After all isn't the entire purpose of existence to extract the maximum enjoyment out of it for yourself?
Also, I second my own seconded opinion that we get some indignant fat mormans on the show to talk about video games then have Dave and Joel do a running commentary.
There is zero exaggeration on that front. Most of what I personally learned at RIT I learned on my own screwing around in the labs, but our friends can attest that we never fucking went to class and never studied. We spent most of our time trying to convince the rest of them to do the same.
The classes were still brutal; more than half of the freshmen coming in with us failed out before the end of their first year. For projects and papers, we had to buckle down and do a lot of work, but we'd usually put those off and then spend an entire week finishing them at once.
Part of it was just that we both had a lot of experience with computers before school, so we were already well ahead of the curve. Part of it, at least for me, was that I came in with 41 credits already complete from high school and another 8 from the local community college, so I barely had to take any non-IT classes.
I think, however, they forget that they are very, very, very lucky to have had the lives they have led. That's probably my biggest complaint.
Oh, we're well aware. I learned that lesson about a quarter of the way through when my father stopped supporting my lifestyle. (My lifestyle included such extravagances as eating and buying textbooks). Economically, we had it pretty easy compared to the vast majority of humans in the world, but that doesn't mean we didn't take advantage of that head start to get even further. I spent most of my free time running the anime club, which in and of itself was practically a full-time job.