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  • I meant that for what you use it for you would get a much nicer experience from Ubuntu.
    Recommending Ubuntu every time Vista is brought up is much akin to recommendingtrepanationto anyone complaining of a headache.Ultimately it is important to recognize that a solution that works for you (be it drilling a hole in your head or running linux on the desktop) is perhaps not the solution that works for someone else.
    Trepanation isn't really a common enough procedure in modern medicine to be a good analogy. Ubuntu is a lot more useful.
    All in all, the biggest reason for using Microsoft's software is for gaming, and since it's not really particularly flawed, that's plenty of reason for most people.
  • In Windows, it just works.
    Well, no. In Windows, you need to install drivers and then it works. Ever had to download drivers for your network adapter in Windows before you have access to the internet? Windows ain't perfect.

    With Ubuntu, it'll either work perfect out of the box, or it'll be almost impossible. So your experience really depends on the hardware you happen to have.
  • Well, no. In Windows, you need to install drivers and then it works. Ever had to download drivers for your network adapter in Windows before you have access to the internet? Windows ain't perfect.

    With Ubuntu, it'll either work perfect out of the box, or it'll be almost impossible. So yourexperiencereally depends on the hardware you happen to have.
    I agree wholeheartedly with this statement.

    People say that Windows "just works." It only works if you don't install anything except the drivers (some of which are written shoddily), and barely use it. I have seen too many computers bogged down by malware and shitty programs while their owners say that Windows "just works." On the other hand, if people have access to the drivers, then ubuntu "just works." One shouldn't blame ubuntu for the fact that their sound card doesn't work. Creative (the most popular sound card company, by the by) has a record of terrible linux support, mostly because they think it is unprofitable. Operating-system-wise, ubuntu is better than Windows.
  • I've been running AV free for the past year and recently scanned my computer with AVG. No baddies.
    That's what they want you to think ^_~
  • I've been running AV free for the past year and recently scanned my computer with AVG. No baddies.
    That's what they want you to think ^_~
    Har har.
    You don't have to wait for the next update to support your particular graphics card properly, or have to read the man pages to get WPA working with your wifi card.
    While I feel your pain on the graphics card bit, I will say that networking solutions on Linux have improved dramatically in the last few years, notably with the addition ofNetworkManager. Give it a whirl if you've got some free time.
    This was with Gutsy.
  • I meant that for what you use it for you would get a much nicer experience from Ubuntu.
    Recommending Ubuntu every time Vista is brought up is much akin to recommendingtrepanationto anyone complaining of a headache. Ultimately it is important to recognize that a solution that works for you (be it drilling a hole in your head or running linux on the desktop) is perhaps not the solution that works for someone else.
    I'm sorry but, analogy fail.
  • I'm sorry but, analogy fail.
    Actually, I found it quite applicable. Everytime you spout "Ubuntulolz", I get a headache.
  • edited June 2008
    I'm sorry but, analogy fail.
    Actually, I found it quite applicable. Everytime you spout "Ubuntu rulz", I get a headache.
    and one day the pain will be worth it.
    On a serious note, I'm not expecting everyone to like it but I am still pushing for people to at least try as, I'd say, the majority of people who try it like it.
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  • edited June 2008
    Personally, I revel in a beautiful view. A vista doesn't need to be filled with anything grandious to take my breath away, anything from rolling hills dotted with sheep or cows, to a city-scape at night - they are all deeply enjoyable. ^_^
    Post edited by Kate Monster on
  • I've had my Vista Ultimate laptop for about three months now. A lot of stuff is better than XP you just have to figure out where it is. My laptop is pretty high-end though, I can't imagine running on a budget system. I have 4GB and I notice slowdowns every so often. Ubuntu is great, but on a laptop it is difficult because there are far too many proprietary components. Unless you are very well versed in writing drivers you are shit outta luck.
  • I have 4GB and I notice slowdowns every so often
    Really? My laptop only has 2gb and it shows no signs of slowdowns. Then again, I have Home Premium, not Ultimate...so I dunno if that has an effect or not.
  • I have 4GB and I notice slowdowns every so often.
    Your slowdowns have nothing to do with RAM.
  • Ubuntu is great, but on a laptop it is difficult because there are far too many proprietary components. Unless you are very well versed in writing drivers you are shit outta luck.
    Or you should just buy one that has compatible hardware. A little research before hand could do this.
  • I have Home Premium and 2GB of RAM and have recently noticed some slow downs and erratic behavior on my laptop. The most annoying of these behaviors is when the scroll areas of the mouse pad stop working.

    If I had more free time I would look more closely at the problem but I'm pressed for time right now. I have checked to see if something is on the computer and accessing the network without permission but I found no anomalous traffic on my network.
  • Your slowdowns have nothing to do with RAM.
    They are more like hiccups anyway. Pray tell what causes these hiccups? Bad Vista coding?
  • Ubuntu is great, but on a laptop it is difficult because there are far too many proprietary components. Unless you are very well versed in writing drivers you are shit outta luck.
    Or you should just buy one that has compatible hardware. A little research before hand could do this.
    So you need to spend money to get the best out of a free OS?
  • So you need to spend money to get the best out of a free OS?
    You could always write the drivers yourself.
  • So you need to spend money to get the best out of a free OS?
    You always need to spend money on hardware. Researching what hardware is supposed to work with Linux doesn't even take that much time afaik. Or were you thinking that OSS OSs require more expensive hardware than the proprietary hardware used in Windows only/OSS OS incompatible laptops?
  • edited June 2008
    So you need to spend money to get the best out of a free OS?
    I'm afraid so, you have to buy these things called computers to run them on.

    To be serious, when you first start using linux you won't be hindered that much by driver issues and when you get into things you will begin keeping a note of what people say works best with linux.
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  • Linux compared to windows is great, But Linux compared to Mac OSX, Mac wins hands down. I tried using Linux for a month and well, I'm not using it anymore. The developers seem to be to busy making cool window wobblies and effects to make a stable platform that can more acceptable. The only time I the future I'll ever use Linux is for some advance hardware diagnostics on old computers.
  • edited June 2008
    Each to his own I suppose. I'm not much of a fan of OSX given Apple's tendency for screwing it's customers.
    Post edited by Omnutia on
  • But just imagine if Microsoft did what Apple does. No more 16 bit code in Windows!
  • But just imagine if Microsoft did what Apple does. No more 16 bit code in Windows!
    Too bad they went back to the x86 architecture. :/
  • To be fair to Microsoft, if it wasn't for their customers they would probably be all 64bit already. Most of it's just legacy support.
  • Each to his own I suppose. I'm not much of a fan of OSX given Apple's tendency for screwing it's customers.
    Wait, What? No, I think your wrong, go read my Post. Explain what you mean exactly?
  • Explain what you mean exactly?
    But just imagine if Microsoft did what Apple does. No more 16 bit code in Windows!
    [L]egacy support.
    Dots connecting in three... two... one...
  • Each to his own I suppose. I'm not much of a fan of OSX given Apple's tendency for screwing it's customers.
    Wait, What? No, I think your wrong, go read myPost. Explain what you mean exactly?
    How many people have been screwed out of their entire iTunes collection?
  • Personally I have a problem with buying vastly overpriced hardware to use a certain OS.

    Vista Business (the best version IMO, everything you need, without being loaded down with crap) has been working great for me since I moved over to a Laptop that is "Vista Capable." I love this OS, I'm never going back to XP or even Ubuntu. The Linuxs might get a play in virtualbox every now and then.
  • I have the Vista Ultimate, and I don't know what "crap" it's loaded with. All of the optional Windows features can be added or removed trivially. I get the movie maker, the media center stuff, and I can also remote desktop. Sure the price is crazy, but I got a deal on Newegg.
  • Stuff I never use so why should I pay for it? But if you got a deal on it, sweet.
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