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Sara Connor Chronicles.

edited January 2008 in Everything Else
Did anyone else think this was pretty good? I think it benefits from good casting. The wife from 300 is excellent and so is Summer Glau. I expected it to be ass but was very pleasantly surprised. It's a gift in an otherwise moribund television season.
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  • Did this premiere over the weekend? Guess I missed it. I thought it was premiering today. Ah well, such is bit torrent. The series seems pretty interesting, and I'm a fan of Summer Glau as well.
  • Dammit! Should have watched it last night. I really enjoyed the letter to Fox. I'm excited now to watch this series.
  • It's actually supposed to be a two-parter the first part aired after the Giants game on Sunday. It was actually pretty decent. I don't normally get excited about new TV shows, but I made an exception for this partially due to nostalgia. I'm not sure that I'll get too attached to it. Fox has a storied history of axing quality shows that only serve a niche audience.
  • I'll have to do some research into how this fits into the main story line. That's the only thing that is bothering me about it right now.
  • This has failure written all over it, unfortunately. I saw the pilot when it leaked in August/September, and it was great.
    Peter Griffin: Everybody, I've got bad news. We've been cancelled.
    Lois Griffin: Oh no! Peter, how could they do that?
    Peter Griffin: Well, unfortunately, Lois, there's just no more room on the schedule. We've just got to accept the fact that Fox has to make room for terrific shows like Dark Angel, Titus, Undeclared, Action, That 80's Show, Wonderfalls, Fastlane, Andy Richter Controls the Universe, Skin, Girls Club, Cracking Up, The Pitts, Firefly, Get Real, FreakyLinks, Wanda at Large, Costello, The Lone Gunmen, A Minute With Stan Hooper, Normal, Ohio, Pasadena, Harsh Realm, Keen Eddie, The $treet, American Embassy, Cedric The Entertainer, The Tick, Luis, and Greg the Bunny.
    Lois Griffin: Is there no hope?
    Peter Griffin: Well, I suppose if all those shows go down the tubes, we might have a shot.
  • I was generally pretty happy with it. However, I have some questions and comments (I don't believe any of these are spoilers) including but not limited to:

    1. If they're so concerned with staying under the radar, why does the kid get to go to school, where many records are kept? And don't tell me that their aliases and new identities work, because obviously they're not very good. Speaking of new identities, has it ever occurred to them to have plastic surgery? Or at least dye their hair?
    2. How can they afford all those vehicles, guns, houses, and whatnots if Sarah works as a waitress? If she has independent wealth and just wants something to do, why would she do any kind of work that would generate tax records?
    3. Will we get to see the distaff Terminator acquire grievous injuries and then carry them throughout the series, just as the Arnold Terminator did in the movies, or will she heal? Can we handle seeing a woman walking around with bits of her blown off? Is that why she'll be allowed to heal?
    4. Why isn't she made of liquid metal?
    5. Why is John such an ass? How many times does Sarah have to be proven right before he'll listen to her?
  • It was was not great, but it was good enough for me to check it out again. It reminded me of the hate of all of the advertisements on TV I have.
  • It really wasn't terrible, which surprised me. It has the potential to become awful, but for now I'm going to keep watching.
    1. If they're so concerned with staying under the radar, why does the kid get to go to school, where many records are kept?
    Even a woman who has been chased by homicidal robots from the future for the past 15 years isn't quite insane enough to home school her kid.
    2. How can they afford all those vehicles, guns, houses, and whatnots if Sarah works as a waitress? If she has independent wealth and just wants something to do, why would she do any kind of work that would generate tax records?
    I dunno. Good question.
    3. Will we get to see the distaff Terminator acquire grievous injuries and then carry them throughout the series, just as the Arnold Terminator did in the movies, or will she heal? Can we handle seeing a woman walking around with bits of her blown off? Is that why she'll be allowed to heal?
    I got the impression that flesh wounds would heal over time, but due to the limited time frame of the movies it meant that we never saw it happen. Arnie just never lasted long enough.
    4. Why isn't she made of liquid metal?
    How do you reprogram liquid metal?
    5. Why is John such an ass? How many times does Sarah have to be proven right before he'll listen to her?
    If he was already the perfect warrior, where's the drama, the character growth?
  • How do you reprogram liquid metal?
    The same way you program it in the beginning.
  • I have to say that so far I am pleasantly surprised with it, but it's only been one episode. I'm curious to see how it will develop into a long running series as opposed to a movie. I'm not sure there is enough show there to keep it interesting in the long run.
  • I do like the retrospective look at 9/11. I knew they would have to talk about it; but they did it in a decently interesting way.
  • What's 9/11?
  • edited January 2008
    . . . Will we get to see the distaff Terminator acquire grievous injuries and then carry them throughout the series, just as the Arnold Terminator did in the movies, or will she heal? Can we handle seeing a woman walking around with bits of her blown off? Is that why she'll be allowed to heal?
    I got the impression that flesh wounds would heal over time, but due to the limited time frame of the movies it meant that we never saw it happen. Arnie just never lasted long enough.
    That's actually a very good explanation. Arnold did sustain a lot of injury very quickly in the movies. Girly girl hasn't been hurt nearly as badly yet, and the other one seems to be putting himself back together like The Iron Giant (or The Tin Man). So I guess Terminators can heal. Makes sense. Skynet would want them to have that capability.
    What's 9/11?
    Ask Guiliani: "Hi, my name is 9/11. I'd appreciate your 9/11 at the 9/11 this 9/11. . . . 9/11, yeah, yeah."
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  • Arnold says they can heal during the garage scene in Terminator 2.
  • I'm still on the edge...this show could be great, if the writers don't fall into a rut with it. If it becomes the same crap over and over and over then who cares.

    Kind of like 24 and OH MY GOD A NUCLEAR WHATEVER!

    If they can stay away from Terminator of the week (which they claim they'll do) and they can have some slower paced episodes where they perhaps explore the development of John into a leader and such, it could turn out to be a very interesting show.
  • I saw part 2 of the pilot last night and they definitely left me wanting more. Again, what a pleasant surprise! What a great cast!
  • This show premiered on Sunday last. It was a sad TV night for me: Does anyone have any sympathy for me at all that Masterpiece Theatre has changed their opening sequence?

    Furthermore, why is Gillian Anderson the host? I mean: Alistair Cooke, Russell Baker, Gillian Anderson - Which of these things is not like the others?
  • This show premiered on Sunday last. It was a sad TV night for me: Does anyone have any sympathy for me at all thatMasterpiece Theatrehas changed their opening sequence?

    Furthermore, why is Gillian Anderson the host? I mean: Alistair Cooke, Russell Baker, Gillian Anderson - Which of these things is not like the others?
    I only watch Monsterpiece Theatre.
  • Just of note: "Terminator: The Sara Connor Chronicles" has the pilot episode for free in iTunes. Easy way to watch it without looking on the bit torrents. (Not that I would ever promote doing something like that... It's illegal after all.) Click here to go to Season 1 (iTunes required for link to work).
  • I mean: Alistair Cooke, Russell Baker, Gillian Anderson - Which of these things is not like the others?
    You're right. One is much, much hotter than the others.
  • 2. How can they afford all those vehicles, guns, houses, and whatnots if Sarah works as a waitress? If she has independent wealth and just wants something to do, why would she do any kind of work that would generate tax records?
    She could be working under the table. She seems to have a lot of contacts that are willing to help her out. I don't think it'll be too much to get her a crappy waitress job.
  • I'm on the fence. I had a lot of problems with it, but it was enough to keep me watching to make a final judgement. They could've done better.

    I like the way they filmed it when it was set in the past, it 'felt' very early 90's. The style, the glow around the windows when they filmed inside and everything. Once they went into the future, the filming became more modern and higher in quality. I thought that was a nice touch.

    At least, I think they done that. Unless my imagination took control whist I was watching.
  • Fox is going to cancel it. God Dammit!!! I thought it was a hit. It's my favorite show. This illustrates how out of touch I am.
  • Fox is going to cancel it.God Dammit!!! I thought it was a hit. It's my favorite show. This illustrates how out of touch I am.
    Its Fox, they absolutely hate good TV. I've only seen about three episodes of this show, and it seemed pretty cool. I was planning on waiting for a dvd set, but I guess that option is out.
  • Fox is going to cancel it.God Dammit!!! I thought it was a hit. It's my favorite show. This illustrates how out of touch I am.
    Seriously WTF?! I thought Fox had fired everyone that was doing that was doing this kind of thing before. I am now starting to become concerned that Whedon's new show may have the same fate as Firefly.
  • CAUTION, APPROACHING LARGE MASS OF SPOILER
    1. If they're so concerned with staying under the radar, why does the kid get to go to school, where many records are kept? And don't tell me that their aliases and new identities work, because obviously they're not very good. Speaking of new identities, has it ever occurred to them to have plastic surgery? Or at least dye their hair?
    2. How can they afford all those vehicles, guns, houses, and whatnots if Sarah works as a waitress? If she has independent wealth and just wants something to do, why would she do any kind of work that would generate tax records?
    3. Will we get to see the distaff Terminator acquire grievous injuries and then carry them throughout the series, just as the Arnold Terminator did in the movies, or will she heal? Can we handle seeing a woman walking around with bits of her blown off? Is that why she'll be allowed to heal?
    4. Why isn't she made of liquid metal?
    5. Why is John such an ass? How many times does Sarah have to be proven right before he'll listen to her?
    1)Apparently, These identities are complete, and have been inserted into the system so well that they could be used to claim welfare and so on. How an LA Gangbanger happens to get a hold of these services, and for only 20 grand, is an unexplainable mystery, however. As for the plastic surgery - Would have been very difficult, or at the least insanely dangerous to do so without a false identity in the first place. As for dying their hair - This may be a TV show, but it isn't ALIAS. A Dye job is not an identity change.

    2)They are shown to scavenge them when they fight it out with Cromartie or various other opposing forces. Also, they found a large cache of weapons and money at the start of the first season, left by a group of rebels sent back from the future. This cache also included a good fistful of large cut diamonds.

    3)Yes, She carries Various injuries, though not having to keep them from episode to episode is explained away early on by telling the audience that "Terminators are programmed to repair and rebuild to continue their mission." She also has stolen a bar of special alloy from what was meant to be a stockpile by skynet - and presumably knows the location of the rest of the alloy, as she was the one that disposed of it into the ocean.

    4)I honestly don't know. I suppose the terminator in the second movie was completely made of that liquid alloy stuff, and the terminator in the third movie was coated in the stuff, with a solid skeletal structure - though, this series happens before that movie. It also doesn't appear to exist within the canon of the Terminator movies, for some reason.

    5)Lazy scriptwriting. They're making a character vastly flawed so that it makes it easy to show improvement over time. Same way as Cameron is a perfectly normal teen at the start of the first episode, but by the start of the second episode, she's suddenly a fucking moron. Also, It seems to be a Law in TV-land that All teenagers are petulant, childish, stupidly rebellious know-alls that always think they know best.
  • Fox is going to cancel it. God Dammit!!! I thought it was a hit. It's my favorite show. This illustrates how out of touch I am.
    At the very least, they should cancel the part of the show that contains Shirley Manson. She's awful.
  • At the very least, they should cancel the part of the show that contains Shirley Manson. She's awful.
    Agreed. I say the whole hour should be Summer Glau dancing naked.
  • It's officially cancelled. I always regretted the fact that I never watched this series. Now I have fewer regrets.
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