but about cutting out the middle man of an HMO that unnecessarily inflate the price of a treatment in order to reap profits.
You are assuming that the government can run a health care program with the same level of efficiency. You are also assuming that demand will stay the same. If there is more demand, then the added costs will rise well above what private companies were making as profit.
You are assuming that the government can run a health care program with the same level of efficiency.
Hahahaha. Being a medical biller for an agency of the government, I can almost assure you that there is nothing efficient about 90% of the processes we do versus private medical facilities.
Gasp, there wouldn't be the remote possibility of the government hiring people with experience and expertise from the private sector to do this job.
Ok, because you do not live in the US, you really don't know how the hiring process goes down here. I'll go ahead and try to explain things to you.
In regards to getting the hiring process for government employees, when people apply they fill out a questionnaire. Based on this questionnaire, you are assigned points. The more points you get, the higher your application goes to the top of the list. For being a current government employee you get extra points. You get even more if your a veteran and also if you're a disabled veteran.
So say you're applying for a position and you're a civilian. You have a degree that specifically relates to the position you're applying for. Because you've never worked for the government before and never served in the military, a veteran who has no specialization in any field will be put in on top of your application.
Why is it this way? Because initially Uncle Sam promised veterans after they came home from fighting wars, we would provide medical care and jobs for them. I have no problem with this. However, it doesn't make sense to hire people in positions that honestly need that specialized training and certification. Things would be more effective and cost efficient if they were firm on the need for specialized training/education.
In regards to my department, we hire people who have little or no specialization in medical reimbursement. Some people do take the extra step and take additional courses online or go to school, however most just get trained to do the basics and learn-as-they-go.
One thing I've also learned here, even though people say, we hire fairly, that is so not the case. It's not what you know, it's who you know. That's how I was hired as I know many others were hired as well as promoted to higher positions.
So if America ever does go for universal health care, the people who get hired to be in charge of this whole thing will be some friend of Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo, who will not really have much of a clue of anything and it will basically trickle down on who they hire on and so forth.
This maybe anecdotal evidence in regards to friends hiring friend, but the hiring process in regards to the points system is true.
So even though the government could hire people who are people with experience and expertise, I really don't think they would.
Yes, that is the process for you applying for a government job, not the government searching for people for a specific task.
And basically you told me that a system like universal health care can't work because of the extreme favoritism in government hirings? Well I guess something else also needs to be reformed then, don't you think? That point system doesn't look too bad either, but I don't know how many extra points you get for having worked with the government before or being a veteran compared to the points you get for the expertise, but basically I don't see much more than a tiebreaker. If it is not, I believe that the point system should be reformed to which those work as tiebreakers.
Of course things need to be reformed in a lot of things in regards to the hiring process. However, I'm not making a big stink about it. I'm currently very comfortable and happy where I'm at. I've also learned making a lot of noise and complaining about how things should be changed to improve things, really doesn't accomplish anything. You're basically yelling to deaf ears. Most people just come to work to get a paycheck. Trying to change things takes too much effort and time, so people just don't do anything and things stay the same, unless something drastic happens, or someone from the top of the totem pole commands change.
I'm just telling you how it is.
The government does do searching and recruiting for people who do specific tasks, and still the point preference will be in effect.
I didn't say that it universal health care wouldn't work because of the hiring process, I'm just saying that if it did, one of the problems I would see down the road, are the people who are handling it. I honestly wouldn't put my tax dollar towards that.
I really don't understand how people can get all worked up over even the suggestion of universal health care but not give a damn about all the illegal crap that the current administration has pulled and is still currently perpetrating, not to mention the fact that GWB is still jonesin' for Iran.
I mean, seriously, what is the difference? You people really don't care that we're still very likely to get into yet another war. You don't care that your country tortures prisoners. You don't care that your country imprisons people on flimsy suspicion, doesn't allow them to talk to their attorneys, and doesn't even charge them for years. You don't care that your government has been listening to your phone calls and reading your emails. You don't care that GWB has given himself imperial "emergency powers" and only he has the ability to define the emergency. You don't care that GWB has, by fiat, decided that he can take the property of people he decides are "home-grown terrorists". Think it can't happen to you? Tell that to these poor kids who spent a year in jail for having homemade fireworks. The cops, prosecutors, and the judge saw two Egyptian kids and some PVC pipe, so they thought, "Obviously they're terrorists.", and so they had to spend a year in jail.
You're too cool to care about any of these things, but if someone says that it might be a good idea for everyone to have health insurance, you get all hot and bothered. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
We bitch about the hiring process because if we were hiring qualified people rather than cronies what you describe would not be happening! We are bitching about the root problem. If we can fix the root problem everything will also be fixed.
Steve, you wouldn't give a flying fig about the hiring process as long as the most Neanderthal, reactionary, gun-totin', Deliverance-cast member Republicans were the ones being hired and if GWB got us into a shooting war with Iran, you'd be the first one yelling, "Yee Haw! GWB = Commander in Chief!", so don't be telling me that you're concerned about any sort of cronies or root problem.
The only cronies you're worried about are Democrats and the only root problem you're worried about is social spending. If the cronies are Republican and the spending is earmarked for war and fascism, you'd be as happy as a Dittohead at a book-burning.
You seem to forget that I am a Libertarian. I don't want the government doing much of anything other than signing treaties and maintaining the military.
I suppose you'll maintain your own roads, save your own house if it catches fire, provide a school and library for your kids, build and maintain your own sewer, pump your own water, provide for your own police force, courthouse, and jail, hand deliver your letters, inspect your own food, etc.
Y'know, you could easily have the life you seem to want free from any terrible government intervention in the Northwest Territories. As far as I'm concerned, until you move out there and prove you can live without the benefit of a government, you're more of a hypocrite than a Libertarian or anything else you might be pretending to be at the moment.
You seem to forget that I am a Libertarian.
No, I seem to forget that you are an idiot and that I should adhere to my policy of ignoring you. Sometimes though, I simply can't resist.
Whatever, Steve. You're a big, tough cowboy who doesn't need anyone. Yee-Haw. Good luck regulating your own cable and airwaves, maintaining your Federal courts and the Steve-FBI, inspecting your own food and drugs, licensing your own airline pilots, policing your own stock market, saving your home from a flood, establishing and maintaining your own Federal Reserve System, insuring your own bank account, printing your own money, preventing and cleaning up pollution, etc.
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In regards to getting the hiring process for government employees, when people apply they fill out a questionnaire. Based on this questionnaire, you are assigned points. The more points you get, the higher your application goes to the top of the list. For being a current government employee you get extra points. You get even more if your a veteran and also if you're a disabled veteran.
So say you're applying for a position and you're a civilian. You have a degree that specifically relates to the position you're applying for. Because you've never worked for the government before and never served in the military, a veteran who has no specialization in any field will be put in on top of your application.
Why is it this way? Because initially Uncle Sam promised veterans after they came home from fighting wars, we would provide medical care and jobs for them. I have no problem with this. However, it doesn't make sense to hire people in positions that honestly need that specialized training and certification. Things would be more effective and cost efficient if they were firm on the need for specialized training/education.
In regards to my department, we hire people who have little or no specialization in medical reimbursement. Some people do take the extra step and take additional courses online or go to school, however most just get trained to do the basics and learn-as-they-go.
One thing I've also learned here, even though people say, we hire fairly, that is so not the case. It's not what you know, it's who you know. That's how I was hired as I know many others were hired as well as promoted to higher positions.
So if America ever does go for universal health care, the people who get hired to be in charge of this whole thing will be some friend of Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo, who will not really have much of a clue of anything and it will basically trickle down on who they hire on and so forth.
This maybe anecdotal evidence in regards to friends hiring friend, but the hiring process in regards to the points system is true.
So even though the government could hire people who are people with experience and expertise, I really don't think they would.
And basically you told me that a system like universal health care can't work because of the extreme favoritism in government hirings? Well I guess something else also needs to be reformed then, don't you think? That point system doesn't look too bad either, but I don't know how many extra points you get for having worked with the government before or being a veteran compared to the points you get for the expertise, but basically I don't see much more than a tiebreaker. If it is not, I believe that the point system should be reformed to which those work as tiebreakers.
I'm just telling you how it is.
The government does do searching and recruiting for people who do specific tasks, and still the point preference will be in effect.
I didn't say that it universal health care wouldn't work because of the hiring process, I'm just saying that if it did, one of the problems I would see down the road, are the people who are handling it. I honestly wouldn't put my tax dollar towards that.
I mean, seriously, what is the difference? You people really don't care that we're still very likely to get into yet another war. You don't care that your country tortures prisoners. You don't care that your country imprisons people on flimsy suspicion, doesn't allow them to talk to their attorneys, and doesn't even charge them for years. You don't care that your government has been listening to your phone calls and reading your emails. You don't care that GWB has given himself imperial "emergency powers" and only he has the ability to define the emergency. You don't care that GWB has, by fiat, decided that he can take the property of people he decides are "home-grown terrorists". Think it can't happen to you? Tell that to these poor kids who spent a year in jail for having homemade fireworks. The cops, prosecutors, and the judge saw two Egyptian kids and some PVC pipe, so they thought, "Obviously they're terrorists.", and so they had to spend a year in jail.
You're too cool to care about any of these things, but if someone says that it might be a good idea for everyone to have health insurance, you get all hot and bothered. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
The only cronies you're worried about are Democrats and the only root problem you're worried about is social spending. If the cronies are Republican and the spending is earmarked for war and fascism, you'd be as happy as a Dittohead at a book-burning.
Y'know, you could easily have the life you seem to want free from any terrible government intervention in the Northwest Territories. As far as I'm concerned, until you move out there and prove you can live without the benefit of a government, you're more of a hypocrite than a Libertarian or anything else you might be pretending to be at the moment. No, I seem to forget that you are an idiot and that I should adhere to my policy of ignoring you. Sometimes though, I simply can't resist.
(sorry for not being clear on that)
If I can do it myself I don't want the Feds doing it for me.