You can only pick up on somebody's incorrect use of a term like "berry" or "vegetable" if you immediately say "According to the terms used by experts to unambiguously classify these things, that isn't actually a berry." If you just insist that something isn't a berry, without even hinting at context, you're just being an ass.
And I mean ass in the colloquial descriptive meaning, not in the colloquial name for an equus africanus asinus.
You can only pick up on somebody's incorrect use of a term like "berry" or "vegetable" if you immediately say "According to the terms used by experts to unambiguously classify these things, that isn't actually a berry." If you just insist that something isn't a berry, without even hinting at context, you're just being an ass.
And I mean ass in the colloquial descriptive meaning, not in the colloquial name for an equus africanus asinus.
I don't believe Luke that you've never witnessed the true extend of one of these in person FRC debates :-p
I mean it all started with the simple question "What is the best berry"....
A blueberry is still a TYPE of berry. It is simply not classified in the "true" category of berry. Do not confuse "true berry" with "the one true berry." A blueberry falls under the category of "Epigynous berry." All that means is that the final fruit has some parts attached that are not exclusively part of the female reproductive part of the plant. It still has the same carpel structure.
In basic dendrology, we don't usually distinguish between types of berries. The important thing for most plants is the arrangement of carpels, ovaries, and seeds. A blueberry has the same arrangement of these things as a persimmon, but it is recessed behind the flower instead of in front of it.
ALSO, as an aside...they are not juniper berries. They are juniper cones. That's right, cones. Fleshy, peltate cones. Junipers are gymnosperms, and as such they cannot produce fruit. They have no ovaries, and the definition of a fruit is a ripened ovary. Pete.
That's because I was too confused and bewildered to say anything. :P
I was referring to your love of Gin, actually.
Ah yes, the gin. If only my liver could love it as much as the rest of me...
I already knew that the juniper "berry" was really a cone; that's why most gin tastes somewhat like drinking pine needles. A good gin should remind you that you're goddamn well drinking.
They have no ovaries, and the definition of a fruit is a ripened ovary.
Wow, so when I'm doing my next ovariohysterectomy and the bitch is in heat - I can officially tell my nurse that I'm taking this bitch's fruit out!!!!!!!!!
They have no ovaries, and the definition of a fruit is a ripened ovary.
Wow, so when I'm doing my next ovariohysterectomy and the bitch is in heat - I can officially tell my nurse that I'm taking this bitch's fruit out!!!!!!!!!
...No. XD
Mammal ovaries don't ripen. A ripened ovary contains fertilize seeds. Mammal sperm and eggs do not unite inside the ovary. Isn't biology AWESOME?
They have no ovaries, and the definition of a fruit is a ripened ovary.
Wow, so when I'm doing my next ovariohysterectomy and the bitch is in heat - I can officially tell my nurse that I'm taking this bitch's fruit out!!!!!!!!!
...No. XD
Mammal ovaries don't ripen. A ripened ovary contains fertilize seeds. Mammal sperm and eggs do not unite inside the ovary. Isn't biology AWESOME?
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And I mean ass in the colloquial descriptive meaning, not in the colloquial name for an equus africanus asinus.
I mean it all started with the simple question "What is the best berry"....
In basic dendrology, we don't usually distinguish between types of berries. The important thing for most plants is the arrangement of carpels, ovaries, and seeds. A blueberry has the same arrangement of these things as a persimmon, but it is recessed behind the flower instead of in front of it.
ALSO, as an aside...they are not juniper berries. They are juniper cones. That's right, cones. Fleshy, peltate cones. Junipers are gymnosperms, and as such they cannot produce fruit. They have no ovaries, and the definition of a fruit is a ripened ovary. Pete.
No, the definition of a fruit is Omnutia. LOL.
Edit: His name kinda sounds like fruit. As in, "I think I'll go to the Omnutia orchard and fill this bushel basket with Omnutias."
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I was referring to your love of Gin, actually.
I already knew that the juniper "berry" was really a cone; that's why most gin tastes somewhat like drinking pine needles. A good gin should remind you that you're goddamn well drinking.
I foresee a gin party in Albany in the very near future.
Mammal ovaries don't ripen. A ripened ovary contains fertilize seeds. Mammal sperm and eggs do not unite inside the ovary. Isn't biology AWESOME?