If he couldn't get us out of the wars, at least he turned the economy around. Oh... Wait...
He has no chance of a second term.
How does that Kool-Aid taste now?
Okay, tell me, which of the incredibly lousy options among the republicans is going to beat him.
Kilarney, I've seen your cheap behavior by other people in several other places on the internet. I call them bombing runs. Run into a thread, unleash a minor nugget of half-baked crap as an opinion, and run out so you don't have to defend that opinion or even witness how it gets torn apart mercilessly. It's not working, and it makes you only look like a fucking retard.
Actually looking a page back, I wonder why nobody reamed Kilarney on this gem:
I really don't know much about Perry, which is why I stated that my prediction was not to be taken seriously. My thoughts on Perry are based solely on the economy of Texas - which is doing far better than most other states. That fact alone makes me suspect that voters may overlook some other flaws. Bill Clinton had some flaws (real or perceived), but the economy helped the public put those aside. The same thing could happen with Perry.
Perry is horrible in economy. Texas State debt doubled since he took office. He is the same retarded conservative brand of "spend now, don't care if we can pay later". He also has a horrendous record on social issues which would definitely not be overlooked.
Also: The character is fake, that things he's done are real, unfortunately.
As bad as the Republican hopefuls are, the economy is what drives votes. Why are people here so ignorant of that fact?
No one is ignorant to any facts, If the economy sucks it will be a tough election in general for everyone up for reelection. However, if the republican party goes for a Michelle Bachmann type candidate it won't matter. Until we know whether we will have a generic republican candidate or a crazy we won't really be able to know how to handicap the election.
A good example of this is Harry Reid in 2010, anyone but Sharon Angle could have beat him.. but they shot themselves in the foot when they nominated her. I haven't seen any indication that the republican party is going to do anything moderate at this point. Until we know how that will go we can't really talk about the chances or not. America may vote on economic issues but we still tend to not want crazies.
I don't see how Republican economic policy is at all an improvement - and that's assuming that there is a coherent concept that one could label as "Republican economic policy" in the first place.
As bad as the Republican hopefuls are, the economy is what drives votes. Why are people here so ignorant of that fact?
Polls are showing that the majority of people are for spending cuts AND revenue increases. The republicans do not have the high ground when it comes to the economy.
As bad as the Republican hopefuls are, the economy is what drives votes. Why are people here so ignorant of that fact?
Because the Republican economic policy on a national level has thus far been "Do nothing except try to cut funds to the public sector and cut taxes for rich people". Perry has his state praying for economic turnaround and better weather, literally. Bachman has a 'pray away the gay' church she was funding with public money. Romney is a mormon which looses him all the evangelical votes, and a flip-flopper who has no chance. Palin is an attention whore that most of the Republican party is sick to death of. The rest of the country is getting fed up with their demagoguery and isn't buying the bullshit. the neocons in congress were still insisting that "Americans want" their type of economic reforms, despite the fact that polls show overwhelmingly that the American public wants a mix of cuts and tax increases. The Republicans have shown even greater disregard and disdain for what real America wants in favor of ideological bullshit, greed, and fearmongering as per usual. They have no chance in the next few years.
We know where we all stand. Let's just flag this section of the thread and check back in 2012 to see who is right. I know it will be me. Whether or not the Republican policies are better, they are not the known failed policies of the sitting president. You are trying to utilize logic to analyze politics. It's no wonder that I am the only member of this forum that routinely makes accurate predictions when it comes to politics. Focus on what actually matters, not what should matter. Absent a major positive change in the economy, Obama is a one-term president. Any basic student of political history will agree.
You are trying to utilize logic to analyze politics.
Hate to admit it, but Kilarney's got a good point, applying logic to politics would probably be a mistake. To Quote the Scholar and Prophet, "A person is smart, but People are dumb dangerous panicky animals, and you know it."
We know where we all stand. Let's just flag this section of the thread and check back in 2012 to see who is right. I know it will be me. Whether or not the Republican policies are better, they are not the known failed policies of the sitting president. You are trying to utilize logic to analyze politics. It's no wonder that I am the only member of this forum that routinely makes accurate predictions when it comes to politics. Focus on what actually matters, not what should matter. Absent a major positive change in the economy, Obama is a one-term president. Any basic student of political history will agree.
"And there is a relatively recent precedent of voters overwhelmingly forgiving a sitting president for bruising unemployment figures. Ronald Reagan took office in 1981 in no small thanks to a question that he posed to the American people during the preceding year's election -- "Are you better off than you were four years ago?"
As he ran for reelection in 1984, Reagan didn't really want to fully confront the same question. On his watch, the country suffered through a recession in 1982, which was characterized by bank failings and high inflation. He even committed the ultimate Republican crime by raising taxes. He also presided over a cumulatively stagnant unemployment rate, which only shrank 0.3 percentage points from the 1980 Election Day clip of 7.5 percent."
It will be a challenge but not impossible to paint the republican policies as what is causing us our recent problems.
And Kilarney, I'm pretty sure my predictions are the most accurate :-p Right now I wouldn't predict anything. Without a viable alternative it's hard to say where the voters will go and the world economy is all over the freaking place. I know one thing though I wouldn't want to be the president of the US, so many things lie outside of his control...
We know where we all stand. Let's just flag this section of the thread and check back in 2012 to see who is right. I know it will be me. Whether or not the Republican policies are better, they are not the known failed policies of the sitting president. You are trying to utilize logic to analyze politics. It's no wonder that I am the only member of this forum that routinely makes accurate predictions when it comes to politics. Focus on what actually matters, not what should matter. Absent a major positive change in the economy, Obama is a one-term president. Any basic student of political history will agree.
The Republican policies are the failed policies of the last president! But the kicker is of course that you are also trying to use logic to analyze politics. Also, you are one arrogant fucking twat!
I had this daydream at my desk today that during the presidential debate, Obama turned to Faceless Pub Candidate and said, "Wait, is this because I'm black?"
I can't help the feeling that a majority share of the criticism he's receiving from right-wingers is race-related, at least on a subconscious level. Scott's right -- they should be worshiping Obama for following in Reagan's footsteps. Instead, they criticize him for being very centrist, very forgiving, and very willing to talk and make deals.
It's sad, but race is still the only X factor I see in the spit and fire being thrown Obama's direction.
I had this daydream at my desk today that during the presidential debate, Obama turned to Faceless Pub Candidate and said, "Wait, is this because I'm black?"
I agree that would be entertaining, but Obama himself cannot play the race card. People campaigning for him might be able to do it, but if he pulls the race card out blatantly it makes him look bad. IMO.
I can't help the feeling that a majority share of the criticism he's receiving from right-wingers is race-related, at least on a subconscious level. Scott's right -- they should be worshiping Obama for following in Reagan's footsteps. Instead, they criticize him for being very centrist, very forgiving, and very willing to talk and make deals.
Oh, they'd love him to bits...If he were a republican, rather than a democrat. They do not give a single fuck who he is, what he's about, what his policies are, any bloody thing, because he's not a republican. It seems, as it stands, that the only thing that matters in American politics nowdays is having power for the sake of having power.
However, I feel it should also be noted - The last democratic administration left the country in a surplus, and on the way up - remember how it was predicted that the national debt would be Zero by 2009 if the trends continued? Yeah, Democrats really screwed the pooch on that one ohwait...
Considering the previous republican administration, I can't help but laugh when the republicans carry on about "Obama's Reckless spending".
I get that you're joking, but I'm not familiar with this term?
Whenever I talk to a conservative and start talking about how most of our problems seem from issues with the last administration usually my dad will respond "Typical liberal always going back to Bush to blame things". When in reality I remembered hearing everything get blamed on Clinton during the Bush years :-p
@Kilarney: Which of your predictions was right about the last elections? Or the ones in 2008? In fact the ONLY thing in recent history that you 'predicted' with your obviously Nostrodomous-like abilities was that the health care bill would be watered down. Other than that, where are all these victories you're claiming?
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I was going with Fonzie bear, but that explains all those waka waka Africa images when I did a search for him earlier last month..
Sorry, perhaps we got off topic. Let's see if this image helps segue back.
Also, see this video and skip to about 2:18.
He has no chance of a second term.
How does that Kool-Aid taste now?
Kilarney, I've seen your cheap behavior by other people in several other places on the internet. I call them bombing runs. Run into a thread, unleash a minor nugget of half-baked crap as an opinion, and run out so you don't have to defend that opinion or even witness how it gets torn apart mercilessly. It's not working, and it makes you only look like a fucking retard.
Also:
The character is fake, that things he's done are real, unfortunately.
I'd take you a lot more seriously if the Republican candidates weren't all a joke.
Somebody posted this birthday card on twitter; somewhat humorous.
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A good example of this is Harry Reid in 2010, anyone but Sharon Angle could have beat him.. but they shot themselves in the foot when they nominated her. I haven't seen any indication that the republican party is going to do anything moderate at this point. Until we know how that will go we can't really talk about the chances or not. America may vote on economic issues but we still tend to not want crazies.
EDIT: Jobs have jumped back up in July.
The Republicans have shown even greater disregard and disdain for what real America wants in favor of ideological bullshit, greed, and fearmongering as per usual. They have no chance in the next few years.
As he ran for reelection in 1984, Reagan didn't really want to fully confront the same question. On his watch, the country suffered through a recession in 1982, which was characterized by bank failings and high inflation. He even committed the ultimate Republican crime by raising taxes. He also presided over a cumulatively stagnant unemployment rate, which only shrank 0.3 percentage points from the 1980 Election Day clip of 7.5 percent."
It will be a challenge but not impossible to paint the republican policies as what is causing us our recent problems.
And Kilarney, I'm pretty sure my predictions are the most accurate :-p Right now I wouldn't predict anything. Without a viable alternative it's hard to say where the voters will go and the world economy is all over the freaking place. I know one thing though I wouldn't want to be the president of the US, so many things lie outside of his control...
But the kicker is of course that you are also trying to use logic to analyze politics.
Also, you are one arrogant fucking twat!
I can't help the feeling that a majority share of the criticism he's receiving from right-wingers is race-related, at least on a subconscious level. Scott's right -- they should be worshiping Obama for following in Reagan's footsteps. Instead, they criticize him for being very centrist, very forgiving, and very willing to talk and make deals.
It's sad, but race is still the only X factor I see in the spit and fire being thrown Obama's direction.
However, I feel it should also be noted - The last democratic administration left the country in a surplus, and on the way up - remember how it was predicted that the national debt would be Zero by 2009 if the trends continued? Yeah, Democrats really screwed the pooch on that one ohwait...
Considering the previous republican administration, I can't help but laugh when the republicans carry on about "Obama's Reckless spending".