Greenspan is absolutely right about the tax cuts. He didn't, however, comment on any other of McCain's economic policies. I'd be curious to hear what he has to say about the rest.
Also, where did you see the use of force in that video? She was told that she was not welcome at a private event if she had that sign. She was told that she would be considered a trespasser if she continued and would be arrested as such. McCain rented the Denver Center for the Performing Arts for this private event. Just because it was called a "town hall" event, does not mean that it was actually in a town hall or public. It was in a private hall. He's got the right to decide who attends, and who doesn't attend. McCain acted within his rights.
Maybe if he wants to have such an event, he should call it a private event, to avoid confusion among those people silly enough to think that "town hall event" means "open to the public".
Maybe if he wants to have such an event, he should call it a private event, to avoid confusion among those people silly enough to think that "town hall event" means "open to the public".
Yeah, I was under the impression it was public space and a public event.
Also, any presence of police, or even the threat of criminal punishment, is force. The government forces us to pay our taxes.
Yeah, I was under the impression it was public space and a public event.
Most of these town hall events are private! I can't believe that people didn't know that! It's all image, baby. Both parties are equally guilty in this department. Still... oftentimes someone slips through. (Obama has had to deal with some hecklers, I know.)
Also, the only evidence that it was a town hall meeting was an editorial comment in the video. It could have been, but I'd be curious to see what the campaign officially called it.
Also, any presence of police, or even the threat of criminal punishment, is force.
Bah. They were enforcing McCain's right to hold a private event. They do it for the Dems too.
If the event is in a public space, then I have no problem with protesters or hecklers. Private space is just that - private. McCain rented the hall. This lady didn't chip in a dime. She loses. She's got a right to free speech - but that right is not absolute. Just as I have the right to kick the Jehova's Witnesses off of my property, he's got a right to kick out hecklers from his.
Hey Political rallies back in the day used to involve the other side running around with clubs beating anyone that came to listen, so I think we've advanced a bit since then :-p
“I understand the economy. I was chairman of the Commerce Committee that oversights every part of our economy,†McCain told CNBC’s Squawk Box. But, as the Washington Post points out, the Commerce Committee doesn’t oversee “every part of our economy,†let alone “the very areas now in crisis“:
In fact, it is the Senate Banking Committee that has oversight of “banks, banking and financial institutions; control of prices of commodities, rents and services; federal monetary policy, including the Federal Reserve System; financial aid to commerce and industry and money and credit, including currency and coinage.â€Â
According to its Web site, the Commerce Committee oversees 13 areas, beginning with the Coast Guard, and continuing through “regulation of consumer products and services … except for credit, financial services, and housing†— the very areas now in crisis.
It’s not that surprising that McCain is confused about the Commerce Committee’s economic responsibilities, considering that he freely admits, “The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should.â€Â
Excellent. Those Republicans sure deserve to have control of our monies. They're just so good at handling monies!
McCain doesn't know what his own committee does. “I understand the economy. I was chairman of the Commerce Committee that oversights every part of our economy,†McCain told CNBC’s Squawk Box. But, as the Washington Post points out, the Commerce Committee doesn’t oversee “every part of our economy,†let alone “the very areas now in crisis“:
In fact, it is the Senate Banking Committee that has oversight of “banks, banking and financial institutions; control of prices of commodities, rents and services; federal monetary policy, including the Federal Reserve System; financial aid to commerce and industry and money and credit, including currency and coinage.â€Â
According to its Web site, the Commerce Committee oversees 13 areas, beginning with the Coast Guard, and continuing through “regulation of consumer products and services … except for credit, financial services, and housing†— the very areas now in crisis.
It’s not that surprising that McCain is confused about the Commerce Committee’s economic responsibilities, considering that he freely admits, “The issue of economics is not something I’ve understood as well as I should.â€Â
Excellent. Those Republicans sure deserve to have control of our monies. They're just so good at handling monies!Wow, even they don't know what the fuck they're doing anymore.
I just want to point out that you guys, correctly, rag on Steve for linking to the NY Post and other right-wing blogs and such. Meanwhile, you guys are linking to the Huffington Post and ThinkProgress.
We wouldn't have a problem with Steve linking to the NY Post if the Post was factual accurate. Ragging on the Post, at least on my part, does not stem from slant but from credibility.
I just want to point out that you guys, correctly, rag on Steve for linking to the NY Post and other right-wing blogs and such. Meanwhile, you guys are linking to the Huffington Post and ThinkProgress.
Hypocrisy much?
I always cross reference anything from "partisan blogs" I just ask that we also cross reference "tabloids" as well.
I just want to point out that you guys, correctly, rag on Steve for linking to the NY Post and other right-wing blogs and such. Meanwhile, you guys are linking to the Huffington Post and ThinkProgress.
I just want to point out that you guys, correctly, rag on Steve for linking to the NY Post and other right-wing blogs and such. Meanwhile, you guys are linking to the Huffington Post and ThinkProgress.
Hypocrisy much?
Pwnd!
Hardly. As Mr. 99 says, it is not the politics of The New York Post that are in question. It is the fact that The New York Post often publishes falsehoods. The author of the article in question has published false stories in The New York Post and the story quoted on the forum from The New York Post has been proven false.
The difference between The New York Post and the HuffingtonPost and Thinkprogress is that the HuffingtonPost and Thinkprogress are very accurate and, if the reader believes they're too biased, they provide links so that the reader can verify the story for himself/herself.
The difference betweenThe New York Postand the HuffingtonPost and Thinkprogress is that the HuffingtonPost and Thinkprogress are very accurate and, if the reader believes they're too biased, they provide links so that the reader can verify the story for himself/herself.
Because if one web site on the Internet has some text on it, it's false. But if two different web sites on the Internet have the same text on them, it must be true!
The difference betweenThe New York Postand the HuffingtonPost and Thinkprogress is that the HuffingtonPost and Thinkprogress are very accurate and, if the reader believes they're too biased, they provide links so that the reader can verify the story for himself/herself.
Because if one web site on the Internet has some text on it, it's false. But if two different web sites on the Internet have the same text on them, it must be true!
I think Joe was talking about the use of citations that go to sources that are typically reliable and have facts on them, not a circle-jerk of blogs.
I find it hilariously ironic that you are pointing out falsehoods on left wing blogs that are cited on right wing blogs. Incidentally, it appears several of those stories that were bogus were later retracted and reported as bogus by the blogs. I also find it funny that the story about Bush being booed was not a lie, but they tried to spin it as if TP was lieing by saying that the booing "wasn't overwhelming". Uh, that means he was STILL BOOED.
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Hilarious!
Also, where did you see the use of force in that video? She was told that she was not welcome at a private event if she had that sign. She was told that she would be considered a trespasser if she continued and would be arrested as such. McCain rented the Denver Center for the Performing Arts for this private event. Just because it was called a "town hall" event, does not mean that it was actually in a town hall or public. It was in a private hall. He's got the right to decide who attends, and who doesn't attend. McCain acted within his rights.
Also, any presence of police, or even the threat of criminal punishment, is force. The government forces us to pay our taxes.
Also, the only evidence that it was a town hall meeting was an editorial comment in the video. It could have been, but I'd be curious to see what the campaign officially called it. Bah. They were enforcing McCain's right to hold a private event. They do it for the Dems too.
If the event is in a public space, then I have no problem with protesters or hecklers. Private space is just that - private. McCain rented the hall. This lady didn't chip in a dime. She loses. She's got a right to free speech - but that right is not absolute. Just as I have the right to kick the Jehova's Witnesses off of my property, he's got a right to kick out hecklers from his.
I like how I spun that one :-p
Yeah, she left with $21 Million in what was actually labelled severance, but she also received an additional $21 Million in stock options and pension benefits. You know, because she did such a good job for HP.
Hypocrisy much?
The difference between The New York Post and the HuffingtonPost and Thinkprogress is that the HuffingtonPost and Thinkprogress are very accurate and, if the reader believes they're too biased, they provide links so that the reader can verify the story for himself/herself.
I found more than two sites that say the same thing - the Huffington Post and Thinkprogress lie!
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