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  • I hate that the iPhone can now do MMS and Tethering, but AT&T doesn't support it. I also hate how you can't turn off the tilt sensor for the landscape keyboard. I'm often using my phone while laying on my side or on my back, and to have the stupid keyboard switch on me all the time is really annoying.
  • I also hate how you can't turn off the tilt sensor for the landscape keyboard. I'm often using my phone while laying on my side or on my back, and to have the stupid keyboard switch on me all the time is really annoying.
    I have this problem too, but it's not a new problem in 3.0.
  • edited June 2009
    I have this problem too, but it's not a new problem in 3.0.
    But it is a problem that I expected to be fixed in 3.0 because of the extended landscape keyboard support. Before, I would only have this problem with Safari. Now I have to deal with it on text messaging too.
    Post edited by Sail on
  • edited June 2009
    Since apparently all companies are retarded today I made a Haiku:

    Trying to update
    Activation server down
    Fuck Steve Jobs and Apple
    Post edited by chaosof99 on
  • Trying to update
    Activation server down
    Fuck Steve Jobs and Apple
    I had no problems.
    It's obviously your fault.
    I still hate Steve Jobs.
  • edited June 2009
    Difference between
    U.S.A. and Austria
    and two hours have passed
    Post edited by chaosof99 on
  • edited June 2009
    I had no problems.
    It's obviously your fault.
    I still hate Steve Jobs.
    Scott's logic is flawed.
    Who runs the servers, Chaos?
    I too hate Steve Jobs.
    Post edited by Omnutia on
  • Apple I suppose. Can't really be my fault at all. I just plug in my iPhone and open iTunes. In the iPhone device "menu" I clicked on "Update Software" with which it promptly downloaded the new Firmware, but when it tried to install it it said it couldn't because the activation server is temporarily down and I should try again later. I tried it multiple times since but to no avail. I'll try again the morning.
  • The first thing I did after getting my iPhone was jailbreak it. This was back before the 2.0 OS came out. At the time it was really the only way the phone was usable for me(this was also before there was an App Store). I did upgrade to the 2.0 OS, but at this point I don't feel too compelled to upgrade to 3.0 and re-jailbreak.

    It's true that I'll miss out on the next generation of iPhone apps, but I haven't downloaded anything since the New York Times crossword app came out - which is one of the best deals in the store if you want a good time waster. Most of my use comes from the stuff that's only possible with a jailbroken phone. My mp3 application isn't stock because I don't use iTunes. I do a ton of work in a terminal environment - VIM, Python, and it was super cool when I realized I could write a BASH script to sync my phone to my website using Curl.

    Oh Apple, I'd give you so much love and money if you'd just let me do these things without having to jump through hoops! My next phone will almost certainly be something more open. While the Palm Pre and Android phones are better, they are still not open enough. I was really hoping the OpenMoko would be the answer, but there doesn't seem to be much support for it yet. I do hear that you can get developer versions of the G1 Android which are open but won't allow you to make use of the Market Place.
  • Yeah, BrutishSaucer. It sounds to me like you bought the wrong phone. The major advantage of the iPhone is that it is also an iPod. If you aren't using iTunes, it's just a waste. Get thee an Android phone.
  • I was really hoping the OpenMoko would be the answer, but there doesn't seem to be much support for it yet.
    Even if the phone's hardware, firmware and software in the form of applications were all Free-as-in-freedom, wouldn't you also need something like OpenCarrier to allow you to do all those fancy-freedom-pants things you wanted to do?
  • Apple I suppose. Can't really be my fault at all. I just plug in my iPhone and open iTunes. In the iPhone device "menu" I clicked on "Update Software" with which it promptly downloaded the new Firmware, but when it tried to install it it said it couldn't because the activation server is temporarily down and I should try again later. I tried it multiple times since but to no avail. I'll try again the morning.
    I updated my mother's iPhone at 19:00 in Austria and had no problem with it, the download was a bit slow, but that was the only problem I had with the update itself.
  • I'm probably going to get an iPhone 3GS sometime.
  • Yeah, BrutishSaucer. It sounds to me like you bought the wrong phone. The major advantage of the iPhone is that it is also an iPod. If you aren't using iTunes, it's just a waste. Get thee an Android phone.
    At the time I bought it, it was the only touch phone on the market and it was oh so sexy. She was like the first girl to start wearing the short shorts and you just knew there was going to be trouble, but... you know... short shorts. Now everyone's coming out with the same kind of stuff and the thrill is gone.
    Even if the phone's hardware, firmware and software in the form of applications were all Free-as-in-freedom, wouldn't you also need something like OpenCarrier to allow you to do all those fancy-freedom-pants things you wanted to do?
    I'm not as concerned with the carrier or the phone aspects of my phone as I am the ability to freely write and install applications that can make full use of the hardware. I use T-Mobile as my carrier because it's damn cheap; hoorah for $6/month unlimited data plans!

    Despite all this, I consider my iPhone purchase(unsubsidized) to easily be one of the best buys I've ever made. I use it for everything and the physical construction is up to SNES levels in my opinion. The core of my gripe is that Apple made it so difficult to get it to its current usable state. If only Apple would stop fighting me at every turn. We would be so good together... damn trollop.
  • ... the ability to freely write and install applications that can make full use of the hardware
    Which is exactly the kind of things that carriers like to block. Perhaps T-Mobile is different, but I know Verizon would literally sell itself to Apple before allowing this to happen, and AT+T seems to be letting it go while simultaneously blocking several other features (tethering, anyone?) Still, I agree with you on a philosophical level, I'm basically just trying to bring us back to the point of reminding us that phones suck because carriers suck, and for almost no other reason.

    No really, Verizon, I'm looking at you.
  • $6/month unlimited data plans!
    Guh-bah? Who did you threaten with a broken bottle to get this?
  • Which is exactly the kind of things that carriers like to block.
    I'm not sure how or why they would block things. The specific things I want control over have nothing to do with the carrier, for example, installing a better calendar or a music player with ogg support. Even applications that make use of the data stream wouldn't be doing anything different than what phones already do. If you're talking about things like tethering or Slingbox, then yes, that can be an issue. But I think it's kind of a separate issue since their beef isn't intrinsic to any particular application, but rather the "overuse" of bandwidth which is possible with any number of applications. It's kind of like outlawing mp3s because its the tool of the pirate. Er, I think maybe I'm giving the Telecom industry too much credit; that sounds exactly like something they would do. I can't last long though. People inevitably find ways around stupid stuff and the carrier would eventually have to adjust its strategy to a policing mechanism that makes sense.

    What we need is a limitless, faster-than-light information spectrum that can be utilized with nothing more than a shoebox and gum. Then maybe we could get a reasonable text messaging service.
  • $6/month unlimited data plans!
    Guh-bah? Who did you threaten with a broken bottle to get this?
    T-Mobile has this service called T-Zones which is supposed to be used for downloading wallpapers and Miley Cyrus ringtones. It's actually a fully functional data stream, but unless you pay for their full data plan, your T-Mobile phone locks you out of all but a few accessible things. There is a hack for jailbroken iPhones which allows you to access T-Zones without any restrictions, assuming you have a T-Mobile account with a T-Zones data plan. T-Mobile has known about this for a loooong time and I suspect that they have let this practice go on in order to keep customers that would have otherwise been swayed to AT&T; when the iPhone was first released. Now that they've partnered up with Google and will have second Android phone on the way, it looks like they're finally going to be getting rid of this type of data plan.
  • I like 3.0 so far. Spotlight runs a lot snappier than I thought it would and is pretty useful.

    Is it just me or were there some font changes in the messaging and email apps?
  • This sucks, I have to pay to upgrade the firmware on my iPod Touch. It's only 10 bucks, but it should be free like it is with the iPhone upgrade.
  • edited June 2009
    The "reason" it's free (or at least the way they present it) is that iPhone users have a contract that "pays" for all future features and upgrades. Apple takes the money it makes from selling the iPhone and rates it over the life of the object (in this case ATT's 2 year contract). That money is therefore accounted for whenever there's an upgrade. The iPod Touch on the other hand realizes it's revenue immediately at the sale (since it's a stand alone product) and any "new" objects (in this case a brand new OS) has to be accounted for. Smaller tweaks or revisions to the OS (the X.X.X updates) are part of the larger update therefore doesn't Sorta the reason Windows and Mac pay for the smaller updates but you have to pay a few when a "new" version comes out.

    Although thinking about it I wonder if that means there will come a point when older iPhones will need to pay for updates if they are older than 2 years old (since that's how apple spreads the revenue from it) or if its the money that comes form ATT that lets them get away with it for the accounting books.
    Post edited by Tasel on
  • iPhone OS 4 is out and is free for everyone. I'm loving the folders and the ability to create and edit playlists on the iPod (it's about damn time).
  • iPhone OS 4 is out and is free for everyone.
    Fuck yeah!
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