I've got a good idea, why don't all who is interested in this look at the nominees and post our picks, after which we can then discuss why we chose them?
The Oscars, like many movie awards, come down to whichever studios put the most money into lobbying for the votes. In my eyes, the prestige is negligible since it is just a way to publicize films and increase DVD sales. One of the graduate film classes I took was a Film Speakers class. Twice a week an industry person (writer, director, actor, editor, publicist, lawyer, etc.) came in and talked about what they worked on and allowed students to take questions for about three hours. A topic that came up with relative frequency was the various awards they won. One of the marketing professionals (iirc he helped to market Amelie in the States among other things) discussed in depth how the various major awards worked. Viewings and DVD sales go up quite a bit when a major award is attached to a film. The Oscars is the holy grail of this and, according to him, one of the easiest to manipulate since it works a bit like a caucus. He said no other single advertisement tactic brings in the kind of revenue that the Oscars can because it not only bring instant attention, but it will be sought after for quite some time because people will specifically seek out "Oscar Award Winners". The long and the short of it is, that I really couldn't care less about the Oscars. However, if anyone else does, they can certainly feel free to pay attention to this giant hype fest.
I think the only thing I get out of the Oscars are the titles of the lesser known films onto my own radar of movies I should think about watching. If you win, good for you. If you don't win, oh well, you're still making money regardless.
Other than that, the whole thing is just a waste of time to me. Plus, I got rid of my cable a month or two ago. Best decision I've made in regards to Comcast.
Kate: I gave Lisa the same rant this past weekend about the Grammys. It's a prime-time advertisement wrapped in the illusion of integrity and pomp.
Solidarity! ^_^ EDIT: Also, if I hear one more person ask "Who are you wearing?" I will flip-the-fuck-out! It isn't clever word play and no one really cares about the answer.
Best Picture District 9 I feel that that movie had such a painfully accurate representation of humanity and a very good moral center to it, that I feel it really deserves to win the Oscar. The Hurt Locker came really damn close for me, but the impact that District 9 made for me personally was the main factor in my final decision.
Actor in a Leading Role Jeremy Renner - Sgt. 1st Class William James - The Hurt Locker His performance just wowed me because the way he tried to cheat death and take so many chances, made not only a painfully unnerving performance, but a wonderfully acted performance.
Actor in A Supporting Role Stanley Tucci - George Harvey - The Lovely Bones The creepiness and unnerving feeling that this actor brought to the screen in this movie is so painful, you'd feel like a nail is being driven into your spine. Aside from that, it was a brilliantly performed part and I believe he deserves the Oscar.
Actress in a Leading Role Sandra Bullock - Leigh Anne Tuohy - The Blind Side The bravery, constant encouragement, and strength that Bullock brought in The Blind Side was inspiring to say the least, and I wish I were related or married to someone like her.
Actress in a Supporting Role Maggie Gyllenhall - Jean Craddock - Crazy Heart Her love and admiration for Bad Blake (Jeff Bridges) is very realistic and very sweet.
Is this just going to be the "Bitch About Award Ceremonies" thread? I will not deny the validity of the points which a lot of you made (many of which I personally agree with); but could you guys do me a favor and please don't pooh-pooh on and/or ruin the potential fun or (at the very least) an interesting discussion to those who might possibly want to engage in on this.
How is discussing the Oscars inappropriate to this thread? I am sorry if it irks you, but you could just choose not to read the posts. Should we make a second Oscar related thread and discuss it there? To me, that seems wholly redundant.
Best Picture District 9 I feel that that movie had such a painfully accurate representation of humanity and a very good moral center to it, that I feel it really deserves to win the Oscar. The Hurt Locker came really damn close for me, but the impact that District 9 made for me personally was the main factor in my final decision.
District 9 should probably get it, but I'm almost willing to bet that Avatar will wind up winning.
Is this just going to be the "Bitch About Award Ceremonies" thread? I will not deny the validity of the points which a lot of you made (many of which I personally agree with); but could you guys do me a favor and please don't pooh-pooh on and/or ruin the potential fun or (at the very least) an interesting discussion to those who might possibly want to engage in on this.
People can participate if they choose so. What's stopping them? We are free to share our opinions about this.
I also find your comment highly hypocritical when you did the same thing in the Santa thread.
No offense, but why do we have to keep tailoring to your whining?
How is discussing the Oscars inappropriate to this thread? I am sorry if it irks you, but you could just choose not to read the posts. Should we make a second Oscar related thread and discuss it there? To me, that seems wholly redundant.
That wasn't what I was saying. I'm not trying to discourage discussion of the Oscars in this thread (that would indeed be redundant and nonsensical), I'm just saying that what you guys are saying could possibly turn people off from having a discussion that could possibly result in something interesting, but I guess my point is moot as of now...
How is discussing the Oscars inappropriate to this thread? I am sorry if it irks you, but you could just choose not to read the posts. Should we make a second Oscar related thread and discuss it there? To me, that seems wholly redundant.
That wasn't what I was saying. I'm not trying to discourage discussion of the Oscars in this thread (that would indeed be redundant and nonsensical), I'm just saying that what you guys are saying could possibly turn people off from having a discussion that could possibly result in something interesting, but I guess my point is moot as of now...
How will it deter people from discussing what they want to discuss? Anyone can post anything they want to.
On the red carpets at award shows many "reporters" ask the celebrities "Who are you wearing?" to find out the name of the designers of their clothes, jewelry, shoes, accessories.
I'm pretty inclined to think that Avatar will wind up sweeping the ceremony. It's been receiving an inordinate amount of attention, and it's a fairly "safe" film. It doesn't tread into terribly new territory, and the story of its creation is sufficiently romantic that people will think it's something special.
District 9 should be mandatory viewing for...everyone. Until they get it.
I also think that District 9 should win. It had a good plot, excellent character development, fantastic cinematography and really good special effects, it was one of the most interesting film that I have watched last year and I was gladly surprised. I went to watch Avatar and I felt sleep half way through the movie and I just wanted it to end. I was really hoping for Avatar to not be formulaic but it was, and they didn't took any risks. I mean if strip that movie from its 3D then what else you do you got. Yeah, it has the theme of "please do not kill our forests", but most of the people that watched on theaters really didn't care for it.
Besides that I really do not care for any other category besides the "Best foreign Film" and "Best Documentary" if only because I get to see the rest of the world made. On "Best Foreign Film" I am rooting for "The Milk of Sorrow" (because, is the only one I have watched so far since I got it from a german friend of mine) and on "Best Documentary" I am going for "Food Inc."
On the red carpets at award shows many "reporters" ask the celebrities "Who are you wearing?" to find out the name of the designers of their clothes, jewelry, shoes, accessories.
Am I the only one who likes to know. I love dresses and designers.
I tend to trust the predictions from Awards Circuit (formerly Oscar Igloo) every year for the most part. They seem to be the people who put the most thought and research into their predictions (at least as far as I've seen), and their percentage of correct predictions in the past is near spot-on, save for a few surprises every now and then. It's going to be a little hairy for the Best Picture prediction this year, though, what with ten nominees going in. I'd agree with them that The Hurt Locker is a pretty strong pick for the win, but Avatar seems to be turning into an unstoppable force of nature as far as awards go, so that could change before final predictions are made. It's even picked up a WGA nom for writing now - WRITING! The one category almost everyone agrees was lacking in that movie! Never mind the Globe win, which almost goes without saying.
But yeah. I know that the Oscars have no real weight anymore in terms of what really was the best example of filmmaking/acting/music/technical achievement in any given year. I mostly follow the process year-to-year out of a kind of scientific fascination, if you could call it that. The ceremony itself holds not much real interest to me, although I'll admit to watching it out of a need to cap off such a long period of speculation (also to see if maybe the comedic types they bring in have any clever bits). I'm not just interested in who/what is going to win, but why. What kind of market forces, biases, other awards, judging processes, lobbies, audience support, concessions for past snubs, TV ratings, and other factors contribute to who ultimately walks away with that little golden man? I can't really explain it very well. I just find it an interesting process to follow, and I'll leave it at that.
Part II of my Picks Note: I've left some categories out for a couple reasons. I've either not seen what was nominated in whatever category or I don't particularly care for the category in question.
Best Animated Feature Up - May 29, 2009 - Pete Docter
Far and away, I think Up is truly deserving of this award. While it does have Pixar's trademarks in their movies, it has a kind of emotional depth to it that I only previously saw in WALL-E. If you just get past the typical jokes and gags aimed at kids, it's a very sweet and well-made film.
Best Director Kathryn Bigelow - The Hurt Locker
It was a bitter struggle for me to make decision between Inglorious Basterds and The Hurt Locker, because both were brilliant for their own separate reasons. I chose The Hurt Locker in the end because that was quite possibly one of the best films I saw in 2009. After seeing District 9, I did not believe my decision would be surpassed, but I was apparently wrong. Ms. Bigelow, my hat is off to you for making an amazing film.
Art Direction Avatar - December 18, 2009 - James Cameron
As much as I disliked Avatar, I cannot deny that it's visuals were absolutely gorgeous to behold. The technological leaps that this film showcased were astonishing and a real treat to see (even if the story was crap), therefore I believe Avatar should win the award.
Best Original Screenplay Inglourious Basterds - August 21, 2009 - Quentin Tarantino
Time and time again, Tarantino has proved himself to be a master of conversations and dialog that is both relevant to the plot and fun to listen to. Along with Pulp Fiction, Inglourious Basterds has some of my favorite conversations in Tarantino's career.
Best Adapted Screenplay District 9 - August 14, 2009 - Neill Blomkamp
The dialog and imagery in this film could not have existed if this screenplay was not written. I haven't read the screenplay myself...yet, but I can only assume that it is extremely well written.
Best Original Score Up - Michael Giacchino
The music was a huge part of what made me like this film so much. There are two particular tracks that were major factors in my final decision; "Married Life" and "The Ellie Badge" (From the beginning montage and Carl's discovery in the scrapbook respectively) were very powerful.
Best Original Song Down in New Orleans - Randy Newman - The Princess and the Frog
One highlight of the Princess and the Frog for me personally, were the songs that were all great to some degree or another. Down in New Orleans was so reminiscent of New Orleans jazz and similarly styled music, that I couldn't resist. However, I'd have preferred if they chose "Friends on the Other Side" as that was the best song in the film, in my opinion.
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The long and the short of it is, that I really couldn't care less about the Oscars. However, if anyone else does, they can certainly feel free to pay attention to this giant hype fest.
Other than that, the whole thing is just a waste of time to me. Plus, I got rid of my cable a month or two ago. Best decision I've made in regards to Comcast.
EDIT: Also, if I hear one more person ask "Who are you wearing?" I will flip-the-fuck-out! It isn't clever word play and no one really cares about the answer.
Best Picture
District 9
I feel that that movie had such a painfully accurate representation of humanity and a very good moral center to it, that I feel it really deserves to win the Oscar. The Hurt Locker came really damn close for me, but the impact that District 9 made for me personally was the main factor in my final decision.
Actor in a Leading Role
Jeremy Renner - Sgt. 1st Class William James - The Hurt Locker
His performance just wowed me because the way he tried to cheat death and take so many chances, made not only a painfully unnerving performance, but a wonderfully acted performance.
Actor in A Supporting Role
Stanley Tucci - George Harvey - The Lovely Bones
The creepiness and unnerving feeling that this actor brought to the screen in this movie is so painful, you'd feel like a nail is being driven into your spine. Aside from that, it was a brilliantly performed part and I believe he deserves the Oscar.
Actress in a Leading Role
Sandra Bullock - Leigh Anne Tuohy - The Blind Side
The bravery, constant encouragement, and strength that Bullock brought in The Blind Side was inspiring to say the least, and I wish I were related or married to someone like her.
Actress in a Supporting Role
Maggie Gyllenhall - Jean Craddock - Crazy Heart
Her love and admiration for Bad Blake (Jeff Bridges) is very realistic and very sweet.
I also find your comment highly hypocritical when you did the same thing in the Santa thread.
No offense, but why do we have to keep tailoring to your whining?
As for the Grammys.... well, I was happy that Stephen Colbert won something. :x
I'm pretty inclined to think that Avatar will wind up sweeping the ceremony. It's been receiving an inordinate amount of attention, and it's a fairly "safe" film. It doesn't tread into terribly new territory, and the story of its creation is sufficiently romantic that people will think it's something special.
District 9 should be mandatory viewing for...everyone. Until they get it.
Basically, if anyone comes out of District 9 saying "those aliens had it coming," we should shoot them.
Besides that I really do not care for any other category besides the "Best foreign Film" and "Best Documentary" if only because I get to see the rest of the world made.
On "Best Foreign Film" I am rooting for "The Milk of Sorrow" (because, is the only one I have watched so far since I got it from a german friend of mine) and on "Best Documentary" I am going for "Food Inc."
I feel like such a girl.
But yeah. I know that the Oscars have no real weight anymore in terms of what really was the best example of filmmaking/acting/music/technical achievement in any given year. I mostly follow the process year-to-year out of a kind of scientific fascination, if you could call it that. The ceremony itself holds not much real interest to me, although I'll admit to watching it out of a need to cap off such a long period of speculation (also to see if maybe the comedic types they bring in have any clever bits). I'm not just interested in who/what is going to win, but why. What kind of market forces, biases, other awards, judging processes, lobbies, audience support, concessions for past snubs, TV ratings, and other factors contribute to who ultimately walks away with that little golden man? I can't really explain it very well. I just find it an interesting process to follow, and I'll leave it at that.
Note: I've left some categories out for a couple reasons. I've either not seen what was nominated in whatever category or I don't particularly care for the category in question.
Best Animated Feature
Up - May 29, 2009 - Pete Docter
Far and away, I think Up is truly deserving of this award. While it does have Pixar's trademarks in their movies, it has a kind of emotional depth to it that I only previously saw in WALL-E. If you just get past the typical jokes and gags aimed at kids, it's a very sweet and well-made film.
Best Director
Kathryn Bigelow - The Hurt Locker
It was a bitter struggle for me to make decision between Inglorious Basterds and The Hurt Locker, because both were brilliant for their own separate reasons. I chose The Hurt Locker in the end because that was quite possibly one of the best films I saw in 2009. After seeing District 9, I did not believe my decision would be surpassed, but I was apparently wrong. Ms. Bigelow, my hat is off to you for making an amazing film.
Art Direction
Avatar - December 18, 2009 - James Cameron
As much as I disliked Avatar, I cannot deny that it's visuals were absolutely gorgeous to behold. The technological leaps that this film showcased were astonishing and a real treat to see (even if the story was crap), therefore I believe Avatar should win the award.
Best Original Screenplay
Inglourious Basterds - August 21, 2009 - Quentin Tarantino
Time and time again, Tarantino has proved himself to be a master of conversations and dialog that is both relevant to the plot and fun to listen to. Along with Pulp Fiction, Inglourious Basterds has some of my favorite conversations in Tarantino's career.
Best Adapted Screenplay
District 9 - August 14, 2009 - Neill Blomkamp
The dialog and imagery in this film could not have existed if this screenplay was not written. I haven't read the screenplay myself...yet, but I can only assume that it is extremely well written.
Best Original Score
Up - Michael Giacchino
The music was a huge part of what made me like this film so much. There are two particular tracks that were major factors in my final decision; "Married Life" and "The Ellie Badge" (From the beginning montage and Carl's discovery in the scrapbook respectively) were very powerful.
Best Original Song
Down in New Orleans - Randy Newman - The Princess and the Frog
One highlight of the Princess and the Frog for me personally, were the songs that were all great to some degree or another. Down in New Orleans was so reminiscent of New Orleans jazz and similarly styled music, that I couldn't resist. However, I'd have preferred if they chose "Friends on the Other Side" as that was the best song in the film, in my opinion.