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Sam Adams uses two proprietary heavily genetically modified strains of yeast to get Utopia up to 27% without freeze distillation. It also takes like a decade to ferment.Anything more than that requires true distillation or multiple freeze distillation steps.
Basically, you can brew quite readily in an apartment,
Of course, freeze distillation still carries the risks of regular distillation, i.e. the concentrating of fusel alcohols and other toxins. I would proceed very carefully.
It's worth noting that most beer yeast strains won't get you above 9% or so and most wine yeast won't go above maybe 12-13% without nutrient and sometimes aeration, as well as a lot of time. Adjust your expectations accordingly.
friggin' boatload of malt, a couple of proprietary super-yeast strains, and aerating.
This is the start of something dangerous.
pondering how to aerate my cider.
I wonder if I can get a cider to 15% before freeze distillation.
Or you can tryhaversting yeast from juniper berries.
Oh my goodness. Massive danger! If you only knew the light that had kindled behind my eyes when I read that thread. Juniper, you say...
I think you, me, and Pete need to start talking seriously about this FRCF yeast idea floating around.
Pete, any idea if I can use agar plates to start these juniper yeast cultures and then introduce them into my cider, or do I need to start them in wort?
I wonder if I can hybridize this yeast in vitro in a 13% ABV environment with a cider yeast so that the alcohol-resistance is selected for, while the reliance on juniper berries is bred out.
If you need more information about banking microbes, I can expound on that later. I've yet to actually get mine going, but that's because I always seem to run short on time.
I've actually got an uncle who's an artist that may have leftover cryo gear from an installation he did (that I helped with). I could probably ask him where to get a storage dewar.
Damn, y'all are serious business. I've thought about culturing, but never actually done it since it's so easy to get whatever you want from Wyeast. I can't afford to get all the supplies I'd need, so I'm gonna have to pick up the pace on stealing lab equipment from work if I'm to keep up. :P
It might be my yeast or it might be my water, but I can't know which it is until I do a bunch of different tes
It's already dawg time.