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GeekNights 20101129 - The Technology of Wikileaks

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  • Sure, some cables and a disconnect. Grid-interfacing inverters can be had for around $2,000 - $3,000.
    That's only the beginning. Different states and counties have different laws concerning them, and you usually have to apply for permission and have a certified electrician install them.
  • Sure, some cables and a disconnect. Grid-interfacing inverters can be had for around $2,000 - $3,000.
    That's only the beginning. Different states and counties have different laws concerning them, and you usually have to apply for permission and have a certified electrician install them.
    And if you end up sending power into the grid, and want to get paid for it, the paperwork is heinous.
  • And if you end up sending power into the grid, and want to get paid for it, the paperwork is heinous.
    It's highly unlikely you'll generate enough to have that problem.
  • RymRym
    edited December 2010
    Another Wikileaks is already in the works. Couple this with the p2p DNS project and existing technology (like Bittorrent, freenet, etc...), and you have a recent rise in the next stage of what was effectively started by 4chan.

    Remember kids: people who control computers are wizards in the modern world. We win if we really want to.
    Post edited by Rym on
  • D2P seems like an interesting problem to solve. While moving DNS to P2P would be interesting, wouldn't a p2p hierarchy be counterintuitive?
  • That's only the beginning. Different states and counties have different laws concerning them, and you usually have to apply for permission and have a certified electrician install them.
    You'd probably want an electrician to install it no matter what. Electricity is dangerous shit, and you don't want to run the risk of wiring that yourself. That cost would likely exist whether or not you tied yourself to the grid.
    And if you end up sending power into the grid, and want to get paid for it, the paperwork is heinous.
    National Grid has a net metering program that's pretty simple. The paperwork is anything but heinous. I have no idea what ConEd does, but I imagine it sucks.
  • While moving DNS to P2P would be interesting, wouldn't a p2p hierarchy be counterintuitive?
    As far as I am aware, p2p wouldn't replace DNS, it would just be a stop gap measure to redirect traffic to an IP address before it reaches DNS.
  • edited December 2010
    Explain that again, I've not slept properly. Are we storing DNS to IP relations in the P2P system?
    Post edited by Omnutia on
  • Guys, it's a plan to build an alternate root that allows for a decentralized tld independent of the existing system. So, you get frontrowcrew.p2p, and for anyone using the alternate roots or something compatible with them, it resolves to the current known good IP.
  • Several comments on Ars Techna were saying how a P2P DNS would be a bad idea. The reason being it can easily be compromised ex. phishing scams and the like.
  • Several comments on Ars Techna were saying how a P2P DNS would be a bad idea. The reason being it can easily be compromised ex. phishing scams and the like.
    Yes. People commenting on articles there or on Slashdot are very good at pointing out the obvious. If we'd had these sites in 1968, they would have happily reminded everyone that the Moon is very far away, and the rocket might not make it there.

    We're trying to hash out a protocol. I've volunteered to work on the board of governance.
  • We don't care if it's possible or not, we care about how it could be possible.
  • Lieberman is proposing an Anti-wikileaks law.
    To which I say "good luck fucktard!"
    Yeah, let's just enforce a ban on servers hosted in a different country. Best of luck to you, Joe Lieberman, you willfully ignorant brain-addled fuck.
  • This just reinforces my case that Assange as not likely violated any specific laws for which he could be arrested in his home country related to Wikileaks.
  • edited December 2010
    This just reinforces my case that Assange as not likely violated any specific laws for which he could be arrested in his home country related to Wikileaks.
    Yeah...Except that the idea of revoking his citizenship and essentially making him a stateless person, along with throwing whatever laws we got against him is very popular with the government down here at the moment, ever since they switched from quietly looking the other way to furious indignation and screaming for his blood, when they found out that cables from some australian based consulates were going to be included, though they are not yet released.
    And Since some of the cables originate from Australian sources, you can bet they will find a fucking law to bend and pin the guy.

    Fucking shitpot government, and their bloody dogmatic supporters, who are also crying out for blood.
    Post edited by Churba on
  • This just reinforces my case that Assange as not likely violated any specific laws for which he could be arrested in his home country related to Wikileaks.
    Yeah...Except that the idea of revoking his citizenship and essentially making him a stateless person, along with throwing whatever laws we got against him is very popular with the government down here at the moment, ever since they switched from quietly looking the other way to furious indignation and screaming for his blood, when they found out that cables from some australian based consulates were going to be included, though they are not yet released.
    And Since some of the cables originate from Australian sources, you can bet they will find a fucking law to bend and pin the guy.

    Fucking shitpot government, and their bloody dogmatic supporters, who are also crying out for blood.
    He could find asylum and citizenship in the EU. France would be clamoring to nationalize him.
  • Interesting Developments - Those sexual assault charges that everyone assumes are rape...are not rape. They're for an obscure Swedish law for having sex without a condom(Amusingly called "Sex By Surprise"), and are being bought against him by two women he had sex with while moving somewhat incognito either just before or during the diplomatic cables release. The fact that the sex was consensual was confirmed by the prosecution.

    The panalty for this crime? A 5000 Kroner fine - about Seven hundred and change US dollars.

    So, He's an irresponsible cad, and quite foolish besides, but not a rapist.
  • Internet Number Stations, think about it.
  • edited December 2010
    The Pirate Bay, sympathetic to the plight of all maligned internet rascals, has heard about PayPal pulling the plug on the WikiLeaks account.

    Their response? Attempt to torpedo PayPal by triggering a digital bank run.
    Post edited by WindUpBird on
  • Their response? Attempt to torpedo PayPal bytriggering a digital bank run.
    Oh hell to the fuck yeah.
  • BoingBoing needs to get on that bandwagon.
  • Ebay Singapore?
  • Well, I checked and my PayPal account already had zero dollars anyway.
  • edited December 2010
    Anonymous and Pirate Bay to credit card companies denying processing to Wikileaks under US government pressure: "Ya dun goofed."
    Post edited by WindUpBird on
  • Anonymous and Pirate Bay to credit card companies denying processing to Wikileaks under US government pressure:"Ya dun goofed."
    We are inching ever closer to mob rule.
  • One thing to note about security: There's two facets to it. There's the clearance levels, which go from Confidential all the way to Top Secret, but then there's Need-To-Know. Essentially, just because you have the clearance to know, doesn't mean you have the need to know. It's another way of limiting classified information, and can also help show who might have leaked any info.
  • We are inching ever closer to mob rule.
    Not quite. The "mob" of the Internet is a complex beast, and it's difficult to get its constituents to agree on most things. It only acts in unison when it perceived a clear threat to itself or a clear and nearly universal potential for mischief.
  • We are inching ever closer to mob rule.
    Not quite. The "mob" of the Internet is a complex beast, and it's difficult to get its constituents to agree on most things. It only acts in unison when it perceived a clear threat to itself or a clear and nearly universal potential for mischief.
    Always for the lulz.
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