Br3aking Porn

Ikatono

For those of you who haven't seen it: Br3akingPorn

Those anyone else find this disgusting? As soon as they reopen registration, I'm making a couple accounts everyday for a week or so, then raiding posting logical counterarguments and scientific evidence on the forums with some science, logic, history, and bible. If they choose to ban me They'll have to keep banning me until I run out of accounts.

Sail

They'll haveto keep banning me until I run out of accounts.

No, if they've got even half a brain they'll IP ban you.

Also, who the fuck cares? Is it really such a bad thing if kids don't watch porn?

Ikatono

They'll haveto keep banning me until I run out of accounts.

No, if they've got even half a brain they'll IP ban you.

Proxy's are easy enough. I just need to keep proxy-list.org open. Just highlight, set as proxy for "Breaking Porn", login and post.

Also, basically, kids look at porn then feel bad, so they come here for support. This makes them feel a little better in the short-term, but of course they don't stay away from porn. Once they look at porn again, they feel even more guilty. Now they really feel like they need support from everyone here, which reinforces the guilt. It just make teens feel worse about themselves.

Plus, they're spreading all kinds of misinformation.

Sail

Also, basically, kids look at porn then feel bad, so they come here for support. This makes them feel a little better in the short-term, but of course they don't stay away from porn.

Source?

The more I snoop around this site, I really don't see anything objectionable, here. If anything, this is one of the most inoffensive methods of promoting a belief I disagree with I've ever seen. They're advocating a choice, they're not forcing it on anyone unsolicited. If you're a kid, and you think you look at too much porn, and you are Christian, then this is a support for that. Nothing wrong is going on here.

Also remember that viewing pornography is illegal for minors, so even if it's a law that you disagree with, I really don't see a downside to fewer kids getting in trouble for that stuff, especially if they're doing it voluntarily.

Omnutia

I take issue with the promotion of the idea that normal sexual practice is something people should be made to feel ashamed of.

Ikatono

Looking up US internet porn laws on wiki. I want to think that they wouldn't actually make it illegal for minors to look at porn, but it wouldn't really surprise me.

edit: Also this: 26 Destructive Consequences Porn Viewing Has on A Man
Someone also made a thread asking why porn is bad.

Sail

Where are you from, Ikatono?

Ikatono

Where are you from, Ikatono?

Massachusetts

Sail

You're from here and you didn't know it's illegal?

lackofcheese

There's a difference between it being illegal to show porn to minors, and illegal for the minors themselves to look at porn.

Ikatono

You're from here and you didn't know it's illegal?

Has it ever been enforced? Seriously, this as bad as those teens (in Florida, I think, I can't find a link) who were arrested for having child porn OF THEMSELVES! It's charging kids with sex crimes because they harmed themselves.

Ikatono

Holy Shit!
"Obscene Books"

progSHELL

I've got an idea for a forum game. Answer each of the "26 Distructive Consequences" using common sense in order. I'll start with the first two.

Alienates You From God. So your imagenary friend won't like me if I look at porn? Okay.
Blinds You To The Consequences. (English Teacher mode on.) Vague. Please clarify.

Omnutia

A counter-blog would be worth reading.

Ikatono

Creates Unrealistic Expectations. I watch fantasy TV shows. Why do I never see elves in real life?
Distorts Your View Of Sex. Because real sex is consensual, procreational, and in the missionary position.

Sail

Someone also made a thread asking why porn is bad.

A user offers a non-judgmental, level-headed opinion in response to the question? The bastards!

I think it really just boils down to the fact that I'm just really sick of the internet outrage machine, especially when it decides to attack something so insignificant when there are so much bigger fish to fry. Especially the notion of raiding this place seems so amazingly childish and ineffectual, but I guess that means that this whole thread is just not for me. I'll leave you guys to it undisturbed.

Ikatono

Someone also made a thread asking why porn is bad.

A user offers a non-judgmental, level-headed opinion in response to the question? The bastards!

I think it really just boils down to the fact that I'm just really sick of the internet outrage machine, especially when it decides to attack something so insignificant when there are so much bigger fish to fry. Especially the notion of raiding this place seems so amazingly childish and ineffectual, but I guess that means that this whole thread is just not for me. I'll leave you guys to it undisturbed.

By raid I meant a series of dissenting posts, not spam or even anything rude. Just solid logic and science. Also, I wasn't commenting so much about the post as the fact that the thread was locked so that people couldn't discuss why porn is bad.

Victor Frost

I'm with Sail on this one. This site is so benign that it doesn't bother me in the slightest. Even though I don't like that they locked that thread (rational discourse being the best way to settle any argument), this is a site with a purpose. I may not agree with them, but they aren't going out and being asshole jerkfaces about it, so, you know, live and let live.

As Sail said, the internet outrage machine has much bigger fish to fry and this one isn't even worth warming the skillet.

TheWhaleShark

the notion of raiding this place seems so amazingly childish and ineffectual

Raiding is the absolute dumbest idea anyone on the Internet has ever had. Seriously guys, just chill the fuck out.

progSHELL

the notion of raiding this place seems so amazingly childish and ineffectual

Raiding is the absolute dumbest idea anyone on the Internet has ever had. Seriously guys, just chill the fuck out.

I don't even know what raiding a website would be. It's just fun to make fun of people.

Ikatono

the notion of raiding this place seems so amazingly childish and ineffectual

Raiding is the absolute dumbest idea anyone on the Internet has ever had. Seriously guys, just chill the fuck out.

the notion of raiding this place seems so amazingly childish and ineffectual

Raiding is the absolute dumbest idea anyone on the Internet has ever had. Seriously guys, just chill the fuck out.

I don't even know what raiding a website would be. It's just fun to make fun of people.

Again, "raid" was a poor choice of words. I'll edit my first post.

AaronC

Seriously, why do you even care? Are they out protesting your porn sites? Are they even putting their web address into the comments section of your favorite Tube8 video?

Sexual values and accepted sex practices vary throughout the world and vary throughout history. Do you think you have any more right to deny their view on the subject. Especially when they are so mildly putting it across.

If you want to go to their site for support, go, if you don't, don't.

lackofcheese

I very strongly dislike the idea of making people feel shame for acts that do not harm anyone, or even worse, simply for thinking about those acts.

Nonetheless, this specific site is not that bad.

Luke Burrage

Personally I am against most porn because I think it degrading to those taking part, and in 100 years time it will be viewed in the same way casual racism 100 years ago is viewed now. I don't, however, have anything against any kind of sexual act or practice, alone or with others, married or not married, etc.

lackofcheese

Personally I am against most porn because I think it degrading to those taking part

Could you elaborate on why?

Luke Burrage

Porn is dehumanizing. It reduces people, and mostly females, to a very narrow set of values, and all of them subservient to the sexual desires of others. Okay, forget the "those taking part" phrase, I think the vast majority porn is dehumanizing to all women, just like performing in blackface makeup helped proliferate racism and racist stereotypes.

Churba

Porn is dehumanizing. It reduces people, and mostly females, to a very narrow set of values, and all of them subservient to the sexual desires of others. Okay, forget the "those taking part" phrase, I think the vast majority porn is dehumanizing to all women, just like performing in blackface makeup helped proliferate racism and racist stereotypes.

While I will agree that quite a large amount of porn is this way, it's not universal.

Luke Burrage

Not universal, which is why I said "most" and "the vast majority". Just like some portrayals of black people in popular entertainment 100 years ago was positive, the vast majority was stereotypical and reinforced racism. However, most consumers of pornography don't know or wouldn't care for the difference. I think it is up to the more progressive (dare I say enlightened?) to encourage others into avoiding the use of pornography. It'll take time, like racism is taking time to beat, but society will get there in the end. I hope.

lackofcheese

Luke did say in his first post that he was against most porn, not all.

Many media take a very narrow view of humanity, and I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing. Doesn't the majority of sport focus solely on human athleticism?

I agree that there are major issues with a lot of porn being produced today; probably most of it. Commercial porn in particular is quite bad in this regard. However, I think the bigger issue is the underlying cultural values and not the porn itself. As society evolves I think porn will definitely change for the better, but I don't think it will disappear or even decline.

Omnutia

I suppose my faith in humanity isn't high enough to bother asking the question "Are there seriously people who form their world view from pornography?".

Luke Burrage

Sport encompasses a huge variety of human life. If all you get out of it is a representation of human athleticism, you need to look closer. However, I do think there is a related problem with how soccer is presented in the UK, but very different. I'm not going to go into it now, but the almost mindless tribal fanaticism of huge numbers of (mostly) men isn't healthy, in my opinion. I'm a fan of Nadal, but when he wins I don't say "We won!" Yet if Arsenal wins, the fan will say "We won!" Nothing to do with porn, this one, but a similar "Well, it's fine, because everyone taking part is having fun, and nobody is hurting anyone. It's all for entertainment" vibe.