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  • I'd apply anyway and then explain myself in the interview. I've almost never had the full specific qualifications for any job I've ever gotten.
  • I did, that was the explanation they gave me for why they won't hire me.
  • I did, that was the explanation they gave me for why they won't hire me.
    That's a weird bureaucratic place then, and you probably don't want to work there. Most of the time I see lots of job postings that are complete nonsense, in terms of what they are looking for. If you can actually do the job, you can get the job if the place isn't full of stupids.
  • That's a weird bureaucratic place then, and you probably don't want to work there. Most of the time I see lots of job postings that are complete nonsense, in terms of what they are looking for. If you can actually do the job, you can get the job if the place isn't full of stupids.
    Well a lot of the places with weird bureaucratic rules are the places that pay you lots of money and or give you lots of vacation :-p
  • That's a weird bureaucratic place then, and you probably don't want to work there. Most of the time I see lots of job postings that are complete nonsense, in terms of what they are looking for. If you can actually do the job, you can get the job if the place isn't full of stupids.
    Well a lot of the places with weird bureaucratic rules are the places that pay you lots of money and or give you lots of vacation :-p
    The gov't. Can't beam 'em, join 'em.
  • What about people that don't have tech related skills Scott? Its very easy to say that there are lots of jobs out there but it is meeting the requirements for them.
  • What about people that don't have tech related skills Scott? Its very easy to say that there are lots of jobs out there but it is meeting the requirements for them.
    I already said, gotta get some skills.
  • What about people that don't have tech related skills Scott? Its very easy to say that there are lots of jobs out there but it is meeting the requirements for them.
    Anyone with reasonable intelligence can learn basic system administration on their own from Internet resources in a year or so at most of part-time study.
  • What about people that don't have tech related skills Scott? Its very easy to say that there are lots of jobs out there but it is meeting the requirements for them.
    Anyone with reasonable intelligence can learn basic system administration on their own from Internet resources in a year or so at most of part-time study.
    This. I work in tech and all of our engineering divisions are near 150% funded from customer labor dollars. There just aren't enough bodies to spend all the cash.

    Don't keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting new results. Do something different.
  • What about people that don't have tech related skills Scott? Its very easy to say that there are lots of jobs out there but it is meeting the requirements for them.
    Get in the door and network. I don't have any IT skills per say, but I had a rep around the office as being a computer literate guy to go to in a emergency. Now I work in IT and they are training me in Cisco stuffs.
  • AmpAmp
    edited April 2011
    See I should have stated my point clearer. I do a History degree, whole different kettle of fish there. The point that I wanted to make was that it is easy to look at your own area rather than see the whole problem. Which exists. The tech world has loads of jobs on the market we have companies come to our uni looking for employers. Our engineering department has a fuck ton of money thrown at it, our history department has massive funding cuts. By comparison my friend is working on his PHD for about 3 years now, he then has another 7 years of bouncing from uni to uni trying to get enough of a reputation so that he will be hired for more than a year. I should have made this clearer. It is a big problem for people. To be taken seriously by an employer I have to have a CV that shows that I can hold down a normal job and have academic experience. This will take me roughly 3 to four years, that is just my BA.
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  • I don't mean to be rude, but what exactly are the career options you are looking at for the history degree. Are you going into history education, looking to be an author, or looking to get an advanced degree in some specialized field that a history is a good BA to start with? I ask b/c I simply don't know.
  • Its a fair question history degrees are odd ones to deal with. There are plenty of career options with history, though that is not directly dealing with the subject it is more the skills that it teaches you.That is not to say that there are a ton of jobs but you are given a better set of skills that others for dealing with information. To give you some idea I finished a 2000 word essay yesterday, small by the course standards. In pre-reading along I hit 200ish pages, with out including prime sources or journals. In total I would say roughly 350-400 pages total, and that is for a piddly little essay. The amount of information that you have, or do not have which is massively frustrating, to assess and evaluate before you sit down and write the dam thing is massive. You also gain skills in presentation and essay writing. It comes from the History community realizing that it is pretty fucking stupid if you know all these things but can't express them to people. However it is plagued my people who either assume that it is a poor derivative of politics, believe it is a coasting subject or use it as justification for another subject that is poor by comparison. It also suffers from the assumption that it does not need much money and as such its budget is hacked apart.

    I am hoping to go on and do a MA then PHD, officially my degree is a joint honors as I study Ancient and Medieval history. This means that I'm already covering a pretty broad area, 5000ish years on Egypt alone. But we eventually narrow down to an area that suits us. You further do this till you end up a specialist in that area.The problem that faces most young students is finding an area in which has not been covered but needs to be. As an example my friend who is doing his PHD is writing on a 50 year period of Jerusalem that most historians 'missed'. Our work is based around trying to find all the stuff that people have forgotten or changed, but not biased that is a very silly word to use in my feild and I have seen plenty of people chewed up over it.

    To bring this long winded ramble to a point. I am hoping to do my dissertation possibly on the differences between burials of the Britain and Europe during the years of 500-1200 AD, rather broad. But would serve as a good basis for Jobs abroad. Or to put a massive work load on my back and look at China, Russia and the Asian subcontinent during 0-1000 AD. This serves the benefit that there are not many professors UK in that area, the down side is there are not many UK professors in that area. My MA and PHD will be based from that.
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